Trump Shutting Down USAID

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LOL, tweeted as only DJT can put it.
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This probably needs it own topic, but I often wonder "Who sponsored these wasteful items in the budget?" I may be mistaken, but aren't these individual project appropriations to USAID specified in the budget? Why can't we get names as to who added them?
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I don't think they are specified in any budget bill passed by Congress…

From what I can tell, USAID decides where the $ goes…
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It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.
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Sims said:

It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.
Agree wholeheartedly. Seeing the annual end of the fiscal year late September throwing money out of the door under the use it or lose it rationale demonstrates that.
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Sims said:

It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.

Spot on…that's my understanding of this as well…thus a loophole was created that bypasses Congress's budget oversight powers…

Congress has oversight over the total amount of money given to USAID every year, but no oversight on how the $'s are actually doled out…

So the Trump team is saying that since Congress won't take ownership of how each dollar is spent annually, then the Executive Branch will do so…

And by my reading of how laws work on congressional oversight of spending, there's nothing to stop Trump et al from doing exactly what they are doing…

By putting USAID under the State Department now, State can now decide how each dollar is spent from their annual budget, so State can now shut down whatever they want…
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Lol at Schumer... just like the "unelected secret group" that were the puppeteers of brain dead Biden for last 4 years.
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Said the exact same thing to my wife last night after reading of all this waste.
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FireAg said:

Sims said:

It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.

Spot on…that's my understanding of this as well…thus a loophole was created that bypasses Congress's budget oversight powers

Congress has oversight over the total amount of money given to USAID every year, but no oversight on how the $'s are actually doled out…

So the Trump team is saying that since Congress won't take ownership of how each dollar is spent annually, then the Executive Branch will do so…

And by my reading of how laws work on congressional oversight of spending, there's nothing to stop Trump et al from doing exactly what they are doing…

By putting USAID under the State Department now, State can now decide how each dollar is spent from their annual budget, so State can now shut down whatever they want…
It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Congress wants baseline budgeting because it automatically increases their power by increasing the size and scope of the federal government without having to actually vote for the increase. They even have the audacity to call reducing the amount of automatic increase a "cut".

Fundamentally what you are seeing is the exact reason the founders set up a republic with strictly enumerated federal powers that limit what the federal government can do (at least theoretically). The point was to keep governing power as close to the individual as possible. Can you get corruption at the state and local level? Absolutely. But when power is local it gives the individual citizen much greater ability to identify and prevent or eliminate it. I am a much greater concern to my state representative than I am to my federal senator.

If, as the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant, all an enormous, bloated federal government does is ensure the lights are almost always off.
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B-1 83 said:

This probably needs it own topic, but I often wonder "Who sponsored these wasteful items in the budget?" I may be mistaken, but aren't these individual project appropriations to USAID specified in the budget? Why can't we get names as to who added them?


What is this "budget" you keep referring to? We have been governing by continuing resolution for a couple of decades now. Budgets are apparently for the little people.
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I have news for Schumer and the rest of those brain dead "Musk not elected" idiots; not a single department head, or even cabinet member, was elected. The were hired.
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nortex97 said:



LOL, tweeted as only DJT can put it.


Forgot to all cap a whole sentence in there. Are we sure DJT is still mentally fit for office?
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taxpreparer said:

I have news for Schumer and the rest of those brain dead "Musk not elected" idiots; not a single department head, or even cabinet member, was elected. The were hired.


Schumer knows that. He's throwing out lies so his base can eat it up and riot .
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That one I saw but I think the rationale would be that there just weren't any organizations in Haiti…worth working with, so they had to go through/cooperate with American NGO's. I don't disagree there was massive graft (hello, Clinton Global Initiative), but I don't think those figures really are what is claimed.
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Where is the constitutional mandate for organizations like USAID, NOAA, etc.? Where is the constitutional mandate for the fed gov to give grants to any non-profit or give any block grants to ngo's, states, or cities?
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rgag12 said:

nortex97 said:



LOL, tweeted as only DJT can put it.


Forgot to all cap a whole sentence in there. Are we sure DJT is still mentally fit for office?


Yes.
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rgag12 said:

nortex97 said:



LOL, tweeted as only DJT can put it.


Forgot to all cap a whole sentence in there. Are we sure DJT is still mentally fit for office?
I'm more convinced of it today than I was on November 5th or Jan 20th. I'm becoming more convinced by the day. It's a marvel to behold.

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Follow the money, as the CIA types told their plant, Bob Woodward.
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Sims said:

It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.


Yep. And government always spends every dollar they receive. So they have 8100 people basically trying to figure out how to spend all the money which leads to all these ridiculous projects
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JB99 said:

Sims said:

It's another disaster created by baseline budgeting. USAID gets appropriated X amount of dollars for a hurricane or earthquake or some such in a year that is easily justified to congress. Next year, baseline budgeting kicks in and the disaster respoonse dollars are built in without needing justification - then you just ask for a 3 - 10% increase on top of what were, at the time, extraordinary measures.

Several years later, layer upon layer upon layer is a slush fund built out of old disaster response budgets carried out perpetually.


Yep. And government always spends more than every dollar they receive. So they have 8100 people basically trying to figure out how to spend all the money which leads to all these ridiculous projects
FIFY.
Trump will fix it.
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Now THIS is draining the swamp
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fixer said:

Now THIS is draining the swamp
They came at the king, and missed. Elections have consequences.
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I need some indictments and televised perp walks in the worst of ways.
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jsc8116 said:

Said the exact same thing to my wife last night after reading of all this waste.


Umm… excuse me sir, but we have rules around here.
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I wonder how many of the dems are sitting back and thinking how simple life could have been if they had just let Trump win legitimately in 2020 instead of stealing the election. He would have spent 4 more years marginalized and surrounded by uniparty squishes like Pence and Barr and then the democrats could have run Gavin against Pence and run away with turning the US into California.

Instead, we got 4 years of leftists running amok under a puppet government. We now have an energized Trump backed by the smartest and richest guy in the world appointing people to key positions that will take no **** from anybody and a populace that is sick and tired of all the goofy crap the dems have been spending our money on for 4 years. These people are systematically dismantling the deep state tools used to control the narrative and disrupt free elections here and elsewhere, and they are barely 2 weeks into his term.

They have to look forward to nearly 4 more years of this, and who is their bench? Newsome has been destroyed as a viable candidate and there is nobody behind him on the dem side. The Rs have Vance, DeSantis, and a half dozen other viable and energetic candidates to run in 2028.
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Don't forget - the democRats are like roaches. They'll always come back. Mutated, and stronger than ever.
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taxpreparer said:

Where is the constitutional mandate for organizations like USAID, NOAA, etc.? Where is the constitutional mandate for the fed gov to give grants to any non-profit or give any block grants to ngo's, states, or cities?

There isn't one…nothing was ever defined when the Foreign Assistance Act was signed in 1961…

We have a lawfully-formed organization with literally no congressionally approved rules as to how it will appropriate its funds…

Quite literally, it is a slush fund that has clearly been used to launder money and pay off certain folks to help drive certain agendas and ideologies…with literally zero oversight…
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I just checked Linkedin.

34 Aggies work for USAID. Quite a few are "Open to Work".

Total: 18,501 associated members




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infinity ag said:

I just checked Linkedin.

34 Aggies work for USAID.
**** 'em
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The pigs are a squealin' boy!

Only way you'd hear a bunch rage harder is if you put 1000 single moms in a room and gave them all an order reducing their ex's child support.
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Word is trickling out.

Call out the uniparty at every opportunity.
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