AI surveillance will ensure "citizens stay on their best behavior"

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techno-ag
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https://www.aol.com/billionaire-larry-ellison-says-vast-160646367.html

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Walking down a suburban neighborhood street already feels like a Ring doorbell panopticon.

But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

Ellison made the comments as he spoke to investors earlier this week during an Oracle financial analysts meeting, where he shared his thoughts on the future of AI-powered surveillance tools.


I know Oracle has their own AI products but this is not the way to sell it, Larry.

At least not to us. Government maybe.
Trump will fix it.
techno-ag
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Ellison said AI would be used in the future to constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems, like security cameras, police body cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dashboard cameras.

"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."

Trump will fix it.
El Gallo Blanco
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Looks like a complete psycho who would be giddy about such things.

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richardag
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Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle just proved you do not have to be intelligent nor have any common sense to make a fortune. Another example being Mark Cuban.
How much freedom are you willing to cede the government for the illusion of safety?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
A_Gang_Ag_06
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Isn't this basically the plot of The Circle. Mankind basically brought about its own unknown surveillance.
Nitro Power
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Dunno but it sure as hell is the plot of person of interest
Brother Shamus
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richardag said:

Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle just proved you do not have to be intelligent nor have any common sense to make a fortune. Another example being Mark Cuban.
How much freedom are you willing to cede the government for the illusion of safety?



But you need the balls to pull the trigger.
96AgGrad
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waitwhat?
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What will be interesting to see is if the government will go all in and mandate that everyone clearly show their face in public. The doorbell camera monitoring won't work well if people wear a disguise.

Will Big Brother tell you to show your face and fine you if you don't?
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul

Big Tech IS the empire of lies

TEXIT
annie88
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Well, there goes my plan to leave dog poop on the neighbors' doorsteps and light them on fire.

Damn AI. Ruining everyone's fun.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Looks like a complete psycho who would be giddy about such things.

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Someone could still get pissed off about all this, lose hope, and/or be mentally ill, and put one in his back, just would need to realize it might be on video.
bonfarr
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Pretty sure Tom Cruise already made the movie.
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bmc13
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bonfarr said:

Pretty sure Tom Cruise already made the movie.


this.
Gator92
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Why does this guy look alot like John McAfee?


GAC06
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Similar appearance, but Larry doesn't slum it in Belize, he owns a Hawaiian island
Gator92
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GAC06 said:

Similar appearance, but Larry doesn't slum it in Belize, he owns a Hawaiian island
lol

An extra star for you...
Krazykat
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Keep your social score up, or big brother will deduct a fine straight from your bank account. Resistance is futile!
Gig em G
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Nvm
bonfarr
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GAC06 said:

Similar appearance, but Larry doesn't slum it in Belize, he owns a Hawaiian island


But does Larry have a hammock with a whole in it for his lady friends to squat on?
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El Gallo Blanco
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Gator92 said:

Why does this guy look alot like John McAfee?





They both look like meth dabblers who get most of their calories from alcohol and not much else.
TAMUallen
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Id rather wear a mask than be regularly surveilled
Aggie Infantry
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I recall seeing an article on non-descript masks that people wear to avoid facial recognition.
An Anti-Facial Recognition Mask: Fighting for Privacy | HackerNoon
Just Amazon search "facial recognition mask"
When the truth comes out, do not ask me how I knew.
Ask yourself why you did not.
Highway6
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Another good reason to not live in a city
MouthBQ98
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The CCP is counting on it. Their first major AI will likely be a nationwide enforcer of Chinese communist party policy. In every way that it can. And expect it to spread to Chinese owned businesses abroad over time. China plus a powerful AI will be the end of human liberty over there and might threaten everyone else with CCP manipulation on an entirely new level.
MouthBQ98
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Neal Peart had it right, but it won't only be about music. "The computers" may eventually dictate the course of your life if we let it get out of hand.
nortex97
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Look up what China did in Hangzhou for a terrifying future state if Democrats get their way with this tech over time. It's easy to hold Obama's hopes for this in contempt (as with so much else), but there will be more Obama's in the future. They're already exporting some of their systems to totalitarian places that have fallen in line with leftism/globalism, like Australia.


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The rest of Surveillance State is devoted to cataloging and analyzing the ways in which Chinese authorities use facial recognition, social media and consumer data, biometrics, and a vast network of cameras to subdue and, in the case of China's Uyghur population, persecute its people. The book opens by recounting the story of Uyghur poet and filmmaker Tahir Hamut. Hamut describes how his family was brought to a police station to have their faces analyzed, their blood drawn, and their irises scanned. As Hamut watches other men in his town gradually being rounded up and sent elsewhere, he begins to realize that the police were surveilling his family to make it easier to locate and arrest him. Hamut takes to laying out a set of clothes every night before bed, in case the police suddenly arrive to take him away. He also starts exploring ways to help his family escape China.

Such horrors, especially those committed against the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, have been well documented by journalists and academics. What Chin and Lin offer is a new perspective on the historical context of such surveillance. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is hardly the only state government to use technology for national-security purposes. Chin and Lin point out that in 2012, Barack Obama announced plans to harness big data. (The "Big Data Research and Development Initiative" invested $200 million across six federal agencies.) Where the CCP differs is in its profound belief in the capacity of technology to literally re-engineer society and re-program its people. This belief isn't new. In its early days, the CCP used lower-tech methods such as extensive propaganda, forced indoctrination, and political campaigns like the Cultural Revolution; reeducation through labor wasn't outlawed until 2013. (Xinjiang's internment camps remain a glaring exception.)
They're not dumb, but are nefarious. Hey, it's efficient, and can resolve double parking issues!
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Four characteristics of the Chinese surveillance are truly unique. First, it has adopted the model of "distributed surveillance," which is a de-concentrated system of surveillance that assigns tasks of surveillance to a multitude of organizations and actors both horizontally (across different bureaucracies and organizations) and vertically (at every level of the state). This multilayered surveillance apparatus consists of multiple state security and non-security agencies and organizations (such as state-owned enterprises, universities, and neighborhood committees) and a large number of informants.

Second, it is a top-down system with effective coordination performed by a specialized Communist Party bureaucracy, the "political-legal affairs committee," at every level of the state. All other dictatorships, including former communist regimes, lack such a bureaucracy.

Third, the country's formal security agencies responsible for surveillance are small and lean. Total number of uniformed police in China is about 2 million. Local data show that the domestic security agency, The First Bureau of the Ministry of Public Security, probably has about 100,000 agents. By comparison, the Stasi in East Germany employed 91,000 full-time officers, equivalent to 0.6 percent of the population; the same ratio would result in a secret police of 8.4 million in China!

Lastly, China has not only deployed advanced technology, but also developed well-honed surveillance tactics that focus on priority targets, both individuals and venues. The combination of labor-intensive tactics and advanced technology makes surveillance with Chinese characteristics more effective.
Without a doubt, the Democrats' embrace of high crime/zero punishments for offenders in big cities today is part of a strategy to coerce the public to accept more state surveillance 'tools.' Never, ever vote for a democrat.
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Highway6 said:

Another good reason to not live in a city


To your point, Highway6, do you know what else is on Highway 6? Hico, baby! Far from the Larry Ellison Surveillance State.
ts5641
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We'll be in the Minority Report part of our culture before we know it.
Highway6
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TheCurl84 said:

Highway6 said:

Another good reason to not live in a city


To your point, Highway6, do you know what else is on Highway 6? Hico, baby! Far from the Larry Ellison Surveillance State.
Hico is a cool little town. Makes my think of the chicken fried steak at the Koffee Kup
YouBet
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Says the guy who owns his own Hawaiian island. You serfs will be monitored in your hive cities while I kick back on my island.
titan
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[url=https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/ccp-surveillance-philosophy][/url]
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Look up what China did in Hangzhou for a terrifying future state if Democrats get their way with this tech over time. It's easy to hold Obama's hopes for this in contempt (as with so much else), but there will be more Obama's in the future. They're already exporting some of their systems to totalitarian places that have fallen in line with leftism/globalism, like Australia.
Especially if much of world media is not put through a reformation arc. Their constant running interference for statists and the left is the key to much of the erosion of liberty worldwide.
FriscoKid
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Microsoft is going to spend 80 billion next year on AI buildout. I don't think most people understand the growth that's going to happen in the next 5 years. Whether you think it's going to help or harm, it's going to happen and it's going to be transformative.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/01/03/microsoft-expects-to-spend-80-billion-on-ai-data-centers-in-fy-2025.html
titan
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YouBet said:

Says the guy who owns his own Hawaiian island. You serfs will be monitored in your hive cities while I kick back on my island.
Can always hope for volcanic intervention. Those answer to none.
Muy
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Palantir will be activated immediately to send the drones after anyone misbehaving.
techno-ag
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Meanwhile scammers are using AI to scam.

https://nypost.com/2025/01/04/tech/gmail-outlook-and-apple-users-urged-to-watch-out-for-this-new-email-scam-cybersecurity-experts-sound-alarm/
Trump will fix it.
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