H1-Bs and Trump's AI advisor

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FobTies
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infinity ag said:

Nanomachines son said:




This guy is full of crap.
My friend from Detroit knows him personally.

Diversity this diversity that. Now even minorities have learned to use the buzzwords to gladden the hearts of the white liberals.

Till now, no one has been able to conclusively prove that diversity is good. People just repeat which causes more to repeat because they are afraid to be canceled.


Low level business leaders see highly visible CEOs talking about "diversity", and they parrot their idols. These trends like DEI go viral, until people have enough and push back. Then the CEOs have to move on to the next "innovative culture" topic.

Right now these stupid "land acknowledgments" are the new virtue signaling act.
infinity ag
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Another paid article funded by some billionaire CEO just shows up today.

Poor poor American companies cannot find anyone in the US good enough, them being lazy and stupid, so they are forced to bring in H1Bs and outsource. Got it.

The gaslighting of Americans here is monumental. This is the type of article that fools a lot of people here on this board who then begin to fight against their own interests.


The fight over H-1B workers highlights a core problem with the US economy: Labor shortages
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-fight-over-h-1b-workers-highlights-a-core-problem-with-the-us-economy-labor-shortages-110009223.html

Employers across industries say they're struggling to find workers to fill jobs.

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Janna Herron Senior Columnist
Wed, January 15, 2025 at 5:00 AM CST

Maybe the problem with the US economy isn't visa workers or even immigration. Maybe it's much bigger than that.
A squabble on the right that started on Christmas over certain temporary foreign visa workers and later caught the attention of progressive stalwart Sen. Bernie Sanders may be distracting from what's happening more and more an intractable problem the pandemic put into hyper-focus: labor shortages.

From tech workers and teachers to plumbers and healthcare aides, many types of employers across the country are talking about difficulties hiring qualified workers even as pandemic-induced shortages subside.

With the native-born US unemployment rate at 3.7% slightly lower than the foreign-born rate and the economy adding 256,000 jobs last month, the issue doesn't appear that Americans can't get jobs. In fact, it seems like there may be more than enough jobs to go around.

That's a problem if we decide we don't want foreign workers to fill them.

"If you think about the building blocks of GDP, it's productivity and population," said Courtney Shupert, an economist at MacroPolicy Perspectives, a market research firm. "We've seen productivity increase, and we've also seen population increase, and that allows the US economy to increase quite a bit."


When Sanders released a statement raising concerns about the H-1B visa program that brings over highly skilled foreign workers, he also acknowledged that the US was in desperate need of "more doctors, nurses, dentists, teachers, electricians, plumbers and a host of other professions."
His solution to hire qualified Americans first and create an education system that produces workers to fill those roles is noble but misses the big, looming problem. The US workforce is aging and there are simply not enough people in our younger generations to fill in the gaps left behind by the behemoth baby boom generation.

And even though retirees are no longer working, they still require goods and services and rely on working-age adults to produce them, a dynamic called "old-age dependency." Boomers, too, are pretty wealthy, so their consumption likely will be higher than previous generations.
The shortage has already started. Google a profession and the words "shortage in US" and see what comes up. Kent State University has an entire fact sheet on "the accountant shortage in the United States," while Morning Brew explains why the "plumber shortage is gumming up the US economy." Both note that retiring professionals is a big factor behind the shortfalls.




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But that idea seems to be going against the current grain. During the first Donald Trump administration, there were very high denial rates for H-1B visas and more restrictions for high-skilled workers looking to come to the US, according to Regets.
That could leave the US behind in a competitive world where many other countries are facing similar demographic shifts, such as Canada, Western Europe, and Japan. Canada has been known to put out ads to recruit potential foreign workers considering the US, Regets said.
"Having H-1B visa problems?" he said, recounting an anecdote from a few years ago. "Come to Canada instead."
That may sound good to Trump. But it may spell a diminished US economy in the long run.

Janna Herron is a Senior Columnist at Yahoo Finance. Follow her on X
@JannaHerron.




Nanomachines son
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This is what happens when large amount of foreigners get hired and then begin running the company. They try to recreate the indentured servitude from their country of origin.
Charpie
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AG
It's going to be bad.
jwoodmd
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Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
And women, don't think of maternity leave. Better drop that kid in the office and get back to work. It's what the servants do.

Better yet, don't think of having a kid. Some woman in India will have one to export to us when needed.
Nanomachines son
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jwoodmd said:

Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
And women, don't think of maternity leave. Better drop that kid in the office and get back to work. It's what the servants do.

Better yet, don't think of having a kid. Some woman in India will have one to export to us when needed.


Thankfully India is now below replacement too so they won't be able to do that soon either.
titan
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Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
What's "utilization" in relation to personal time off?
jwoodmd
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Nanomachines son said:

jwoodmd said:

Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
And women, don't think of maternity leave. Better drop that kid in the office and get back to work. It's what the servants do.

Better yet, don't think of having a kid. Some woman in India will have one to export to us when needed.


Thankfully India is now below replacement too so they won't be able to do that soon either.
Below replacement for 1.5 BILLION is still a whole ****ing lot of them.
Charpie
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And honestly, I'm torn about that one. I've seen so many women take advantage of this. I worked with a lady who had 3 kids 3 years in a row. She got pregnant when she got hired. Gave notice when she got back from her last kid.
jwoodmd
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Charpie said:

And honestly, I'm torn about that one. I've seen so many women take advantage of this. I worked with a lady who had 3 kids 3 years in a row. She got pregnant when she got hired. Gave notice when she got back from her last kid.
Agree. Both my wife and I have seen things like this in our professions. It does create issues - and I fully support women who work and have children (I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't as my wife has a great career and we have children) but there are some out there that play the system.
Nanomachines son
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Good, they have to go back.
No Spin Ag
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Nanomachines son said:



Good, they have to go back.


They have to go back or new ones can't come in? And if they do have to go back, what happens to their jobs and how long to replace them?

Also, does this go until effect immediately, or does it get stuck in the courts until it reaches the SC?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Nanomachines son
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No Spin Ag said:

Nanomachines son said:



Good, they have to go back.


They have to go back or new ones can't come in? And if they do have to go back, what happens to their jobs and how long to replace them?

Also, does this go until effect immediately, or does it get stuck in the courts until it reaches the SC?


All of them.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been laid off for foreigners, we have plenty of workers.

I don't care about foreigners.
Zobel
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I care about them as humans and we as individuals have an obligation to charity and love for our fellow men, regardless of their nationality. This follows a hierarchy of obligation, beginning with our own family and extending outward.

Our government has similar obligations, and their immediate and primary duty is to the citizens of our country. Not only should our government not worry about others until our own people are taken care of, it is wrong for them to do so. Never mind disadvantaging our own citizens for others! Our government exists to provide for the general welfare of its stakeholders, who are the citizens that comprise it.
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Nanomachines son said:

No Spin Ag said:

Nanomachines son said:



Good, they have to go back.


They have to go back or new ones can't come in? And if they do have to go back, what happens to their jobs and how long to replace them?

Also, does this go until effect immediately, or does it get stuck in the courts until it reaches the SC?


All of them.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been laid off for foreigners, we have plenty of workers.

I don't care about foreigners.


torrid
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titan said:

Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
What's "utilization" in relation to personal time off?
From a quick Google search, it seems to be some sort of productivity metric. Undoubtedly used in promotions, layoffs, etc. I think just about every company follows the Neutron Jack philosophy of annually ranking employees these days.

The implication is if you use PTO, your productivity goes down and it is held against you. Meanwhile the H-1Bs from India work 12-14 hour days and never take a vacation.

Seems tied into the "Unlimited PTO" bulls**t too. We all know it isn't really unlimited as they still track the hours, and this is a way to hold it against you.
titan
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torrid said:

titan said:

Charpie said:

It's going to be bad.
What's "utilization" in relation to personal time off?
From a quick Google search, it seems to be some sort of productivity metric. Undoubtedly used in promotions, layoffs, etc. I think just about every company follows the Neutron Jack philosophy of annually ranking employees these days.

The implication is if you use PTO, your productivity goes down and it is held against you. Meanwhile the H-1Bs from India work 12-14 hour days and never take a vacation.

Seems tied into the "Unlimited PTO" bulls**t too. We all know it isn't really unlimited as they still track the hours, and this is a way to hold it against you.
Thanks for that. Intriguing -- seems a bit heading in the exploited worker direction.
No Spin Ag
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Zobel said:

I care about them as humans and we as individuals have an obligation to charity and love for our fellow men, regardless of their nationality. This follows a hierarchy of obligation, beginning with our own family and extending outward.

Our government has similar obligations, and their immediate and primary duty is to the citizens of our country. Not only should our government not worry about others until our own people are taken care of, it is wrong for them to do so. Never mind disadvantaging our own citizens for others! Our government exists to provide for the general welfare of its stakeholders, who are the citizens that comprise it.
Well said.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Nanomachines son
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The H1-B abuse was never once about jobs, it was always about immigration and getting their kids citizenship. This is why birthright citizenship needs to be revoked for foreigners.
 
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