H1-Bs and Trump's AI advisor

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Very curious a company forced to follow ITAR laws was able to be so successful without foreign labor.
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Trying to recruit top talent is expensive. I agree, pay more and you will get the talent, but you won't have a sustainable business.

Tech pays 300-600k total compensation, so if the money is there, then they will pay.

But non software businesses can't pay that and sustain a profitability business. So talent becomes very scarce.

I've seen first hand how hard it is to recruit top talent in a niche engineering discipline, and a few times it came down to candidates wanting more than the business could afford.

SpaceX gets all the top young talent they want, but they have to pay for experienced talent. And they have a bad rap for work life balance, someone with 10-15 years experience and a family wants more balance than SpaceX can offer and it's hard for SpaceX to recruit and keep experienced talent without paying a lot for it. And yeah SpaceX does have some top guys with loads of experience, but there also have more need than they can fill.

SpaceX also has to keep to American workers. Yes, Elon Musk 100% would hire cheaper foreign engineers if he could. He is known to treat employees poorly, so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
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Nanomachines son said:





This post is nails.


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Elon is the GOAT, and I'm glad that he's in a position to advise/guide the president.

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less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

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Nanomachines son said:



Very curious a company forced to follow ITAR laws was able to be so successful without foreign labor.


The SpaceX example really is the silver bullet to the "we don't have enough native talent" argument.
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We have the talent, he just doesn't want to pay
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As someone who frequents the Costco in Sugar Land, TX, I am a strong advocate for banning South Asian "skilled immigration" for at least 5 years.
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RebelE Infantry said:

Nanomachines son said:



Very curious a company forced to follow ITAR laws was able to be so successful without foreign labor.


The SpaceX example really is the silver bullet to the "we don't have enough native talent" argument.


Don't kid yourself. It would be tons of foreign workers if Musk didn't have to comply with ITAR.
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Prime-age employment rate among white people is near 20yr highs btw
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bmks270 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Nanomachines son said:



Very curious a company forced to follow ITAR laws was able to be so successful without foreign labor.


The SpaceX example really is the silver bullet to the "we don't have enough native talent" argument.


Don't kid yourself. It would be tons of foreign workers if Musk didn't have to comply with ITAR.


Oh I have no doubt about that. But it just further shows that this all driven by cost/profit and not talent shortage.
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I'm a big fan of the guest worker programs as long as the employer has to demonstrate that they tried to hire a qualified American first.

It's so much better than legal immigration it's not even funny. They come over to work, don't bring the wife and kids with them, and then return back to their country of origin. We get the benefit of their labor without the long-term demographic shifts actual immigration causes.

As long as the employer can demonstrate they tried to hire a qualified American and couldn't, there really should not be a cap.
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GE said:

I'm a big fan of the guest worker programs as long as the employer has to demonstrate that they tried to hire a qualified American first.

It's so much better than legal immigration it's not even funny. They come over to work, don't bring the wife and kids with them, and then return back to their country of origin. We get the benefit of their labor without the long-term demographic shifts actual immigration causes.

As long as the employer can demonstrate they tried to hire a qualified American and couldn't, there really should not be a cap.
They are scamming the PERM listings as well. They have been putting jobs in newspapers while not listing them online at all. They hope tech workers won't read legacy media or physical newspapers, so they claim they tried and then list the jobs to foreigners online.

The whole system is broken. We need a moratorium and start from scratch in 40 years.
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kongaggie said:

As someone who frequents the Costco in Sugar Land, TX, I am a strong advocate for banning South Asian "skilled immigration" for at least 5 years.
It's a SAARpocalypse in Frisco.
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gbaby23 said:

GE said:

I'm a big fan of the guest worker programs as long as the employer has to demonstrate that they tried to hire a qualified American first.

It's so much better than legal immigration it's not even funny. They come over to work, don't bring the wife and kids with them, and then return back to their country of origin. We get the benefit of their labor without the long-term demographic shifts actual immigration causes.

As long as the employer can demonstrate they tried to hire a qualified American and couldn't, there really should not be a cap.
They are scamming the PERM listings as well. They have been putting jobs in newspapers while not listing them online at all. They hope tech workers won't read legacy media or physical newspapers, so they claim they tried and then list the jobs to foreigners online.

The whole system is broken. We need a moratorium and start from scratch in 40 years.
Agreed on the search for American candidates part. There should be some required central online posting of these that anyone can look at to go find a job, in addition to the local paper of record
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He's doubling down
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They should have banned all immigration indefinitely after 9/11. Had the perfect opportunity to start from scratch then and poo pop'd it away like they do everything.
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We just should have never passed Hart-Celler.

Ted Kennedy is a treasonous snake


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During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the Act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset
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Nanomachines son said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.


Don't worry, leftists aren't having kids.

Latin America isn't having kids either by the way. Every Latin American nation is now below the US in replacement rate so replacing us with them isn't an option either.
CHRISTIAN families ARE having kids, even the latinos. I want Christian families to be the majority. This nation desperately needs it. Would take a heavy stream of this group from Eastern Europe too.

Screen for traditional families of Christian faith.
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gbaby23 said:

We just should have never passed Hart-Celler.

Ted Kennedy is a treasonous snake


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During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the Act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset

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gbaby23 said:

We just should have never passed Hart-Celler.

Ted Kennedy is a treasonous snake


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During debate on the Senate floor, Senator Ted Kennedy, speaking of the effects of the Act, said, "our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset

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VerdeAg said:

He's doubling down
Assuming he's being genuine, on what basis do you disagree ?
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We already have that; O-1 Visa
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GE said:

VerdeAg said:

He's doubling down
Assuming he's being genuine, on what basis do you disagree ?
There are already programs for the best of the best and that is not the H1B program, which is what this entire debate has been about. He is only now slightly back tracking because he knows he screwed up.

Comparing our nation to a sports team is insulting.
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gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
Calling me silly isn't helping your case! I don't swing that way, man.
Well I'm not talking about their physiques or physical characteristics, if that helps. Listen to how they talk to eachother. Hispanic males are less likely to endorse and advocate for fruity post-modern cultural marxist sh** than white men. You need to meet some hispanic dudes (no homo).
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El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
Calling me silly isn't helping your case! I don't swing that way, man.
Well I'm not talking about their physiques or physical characteristics, if that helps. Listen to how they talk to eachother. Hispanic males are less likely to endorse and advocate for fruity post-modern cultural marxist sh** than white men. You need to meet some hispanic dudes (no homo).
Buddy, this is too gay for me. I don't care about the sweet nothings Hispanics whisper in your ear!
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damn, Elon just take the L. No one is perfect, just admit you are wrong.
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gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
Calling me silly isn't helping your case! I don't swing that way, man.
Well I'm not talking about their physiques or physical characteristics, if that helps. Listen to how they talk to eachother. Hispanic males are less likely to endorse and advocate for fruity post-modern cultural marxist sh** than white men. You need to meet some hispanic dudes (no homo).
Buddy, this is too gay for me. I don't care about the sweet nothings Hispanics whisper in your ear!
The maturity level of a ten year old, got it. Need more people like you to breed ot migrate to this country.
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Doublepost
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El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
Calling me silly isn't helping your case! I don't swing that way, man.
Well I'm not talking about their physiques or physical characteristics, if that helps. Listen to how they talk to eachother. Hispanic males are less likely to endorse and advocate for fruity post-modern cultural marxist sh** than white men. You need to meet some hispanic dudes (no homo).
Buddy, this is too gay for me. I don't care about the sweet nothings Hispanics whisper in your ear!
The maturity level of a ten year old, got it. Need more people like you to breed ot migrate to this country.
Stop complimenting me, I am not gay.
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damn, Elon just take the L. You are wrong on this one.
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texagbeliever said:

Companies aren't outsourcing their tech departments to India because they are better. They do so because it shows a nice SGA dip (labor costs) and a reduction in headcount (they are contractors so they don't "count"). This is largely a game played by upper middle management in the pursuit of becoming executives.


100%
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texagbeliever said:

Companies aren't outsourcing their tech departments to India because they are better. They do so because it shows a nice SGA dip (labor costs) and a reduction in headcount (they are contractors so they don't "count"). This is largely a game played by upper middle management in the pursuit of becoming executives.


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And is going to cause the whole house of cards to collapse drastically.

Companies are so myopic about short term profit bumps, they're willing to burn their own customer bases to the ground..
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This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.
 
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