H1-Bs and Trump's AI advisor

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Nanomachines son
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Spot on here.
gbaby23
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Some ethnic minorities forever harbor resentment that they were turned down by the pretty white girl in high school.
El Gallo Blanco
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VerdeAg said:

Hes a crony opportunist.

He will **** anybody over to make a dollar. I have zero sympathy for him and I hope the rest of the conservatives on here realize hes in it for himself
If there is a succinct way to accurately sum up the upper crust of Indian culture...it is this. There are exceptions, of course. But that is a prevailing cultural trait. Honor, honesty, compassion, charity...heavily lacking.

Many non-Christian socieites have tremendous cultural flaws.
VerdeAg
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He was a probably a nerd who had zero social skills but felt he was superior to everybody. Funny thing is many jocks in HS were also on the honor roll, honor societies, etc... and got girls
gbaby23
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VerdeAg said:

He was a probably a nerd who had zero social skills but felt he was superior to everybody. Funny thing is many jocks in HS were also on the honor roll, honor societies, etc... and got girls
Another leftist Hollywood trope that is a lie. Healthy bodies, healthy minds.
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DannyDuberstein said:

The issue is that for every 1 good one, we're paying for at least 9 worthless piles of dung. So they are cheaper on paper but there is so much other $$$ going out the door from bugs, lack of ingenuity in doing productivity enhancements, longer timelines to get any projects done, etc

This is what I've seen at a Fortune 100 over the past 20 years. Savings on the IT line. Cost everywhere else

This is so true. Also this is a result of IT executive being evaluated on IT performance. So he maximizes to the optics that make him look good.

When other business departments push back it gets tangled up with bad specs or bad data that cause a problem. A smart executive can normally create enough uncertainty to really take the blunt of his performance gamesmanship.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

Hes a crony opportunist.

He will **** anybody over to make a dollar. I have zero sympathy for him and I hope the rest of the conservatives on here realize hes in it for himself
If there is a succinct way to accurately sum up the upper crust of Indian culture...it is this. There are exceptions, of course. But that is a prevailing cultural trait. Honor, honestly, compassion, charity...heavily lacking.

Many non-Christian socieites have tremendous cultural flaws.
Yeah, if Indians were only Christian they'd be just like Europeans
VerdeAg
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I thank God every day that we share borders with Mexico/Canada and not Asia, Africa, the Middle East. Could you imagine the border
El Gallo Blanco
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Keyno said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

Hes a crony opportunist.

He will **** anybody over to make a dollar. I have zero sympathy for him and I hope the rest of the conservatives on here realize hes in it for himself
If there is a succinct way to accurately sum up the upper crust of Indian culture...it is this. There are exceptions, of course. But that is a prevailing cultural trait. Honor, honestly, compassion, charity...heavily lacking.

Many non-Christian socieites have tremendous cultural flaws.
Yeah, if Indians were only Christian they'd be just like Europeans
Eurotrash are not very Christian these days. Haven't been in a while. But with many of their citizens, there is still SOME concept of self-sacrifice for others, charity, good will towards fellow man etc. A remnant of Christianity.

In the third world poop-field heap of trash that is Hindustan, many of these concepts are nonexistent.
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Logos Stick said:

Sophon7 said:

I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality


Complete nonsense. I've never seen innovation of any sort coming out of India. Same with China. They are immitators, not innovators. Always have been. Every major tech company in the world was stated by whitey. Elon Musk, Sam Altman and Ilya Sutskever, whitey , founded by Open AI, the first major AI initiative. Alan Turning, whitey, is considered the father of AI. I can list the folks making technological breakthroughs of the last 100 years and 99% are whitey.


Dude…. 2 of the 3 guys you listed are not native born white dudes.

Hate it all you want but the cutting edge is no longer being developed by us America white dudes. Venture, tech, innovation etc is still dominated by the U.S., but not by us native white guys.

I am one of those white dudes trying to compete, and I am in the minority.
Muktheduck
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Keyno said:

gbaby23 said:

VerdeAg said:

The funny thing is everybody against Vivek,Elon right now are asking if Indian talent is so great why dont they use that talent in India; no responses
Not just that, why don't Russia or China import millions of Indians? Don't they want to win the tech war?

Only Westerners are stupid enough to import indians for cheap labor.
Self styled "conservatives" have been brainwashed for 30 years into thinking "free market is conservative".

Russians and Chinese do not think this
This is an underappreciated fact

There is scarcely anything more progressive than the free market. Putting the almighty dollar at the top of your value hierarchy will inherently dismantle traditional values
Sophon7
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Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
Keyno
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Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.
This is bait again
gbaby23
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Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.
Should we import Egyptian plumbers to work for $5/hr? What about Kindergarten teachers? Do we need more punjabi women to teach in our schools for a room and board in a flop house owned by a slum lord?

This is just selling out the American people for $$$
VerdeAg
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Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
So we should all just work for pennies so we can prevent being outsourced so your company can increase stock prices by 5%
Sea Speed
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It's wild how much of Twitter is nothing but this issue. I'd say 90% of my feed is this issue.

I work in a heavily Indian dominated industry/company and it absolutely keeps my wages artificially deflated.
VerdeAg
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I genuinely cant imagine working with them, I remember being on the bus near the engineering schools. Holy Christ
Sophon7
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VerdeAg said:

Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
So we should all just work for pennies so we can prevent being outsourced so your company can increase stock prices by 5%


Dying empire mentality. Getting out-competed. What killed Europe. Maybe an inevitable outcome of widespread wealth over time
gbaby23
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Sophon7 said:

VerdeAg said:

Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
So we should all just work for pennies so we can prevent being outsourced so your company can increase stock prices by 5%


Dying empire mentality. Getting out-competed. What killed Europe. Maybe an inevitable outcome of widespread wealth over time
I guarantee we will outperform every single 3rd world nation without immigration. We don't need them.
Keyno
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Sophon7 said:

VerdeAg said:

Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
So we should all just work for pennies so we can prevent being outsourced so your company can increase stock prices by 5%


Dying empire mentality. Getting out-competed. What killed Europe. Maybe an inevitable outcome of widespread wealth over time
Lol India
VerdeAg
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Sophon7 said:

VerdeAg said:

Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
So we should all just work for pennies so we can prevent being outsourced so your company can increase stock prices by 5%


Dying empire mentality. Getting out-competed. What killed Europe. Maybe an inevitable outcome of widespread wealth over time
Yes cause India is such a prosperous and desirable place to live
Sea Speed
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VerdeAg said:

I genuinely cant imagine working with them, I remember being on the bus near the engineering schools. Holy Christ


I work in shipping. Impossible to avoid the issue.
Logos Stick
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Sophon7 said:

Logos Stick said:

Sophon7 said:

I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality


Complete nonsense. I've never seen innovation of any sort coming out of India. Same with China. They are immitators, not innovators. Always have been. Every major tech company in the world was stated by whitey. Elon Musk, Sam Altman and Ilya Sutskever, whitey , founded by Open AI, the first major AI initiative. Alan Turning, whitey, is considered the father of AI. I can list the folks making technological breakthroughs of the last 100 years and 99% are whitey.


Dude…. 2 of the 3 guys you listed are not native born white dudes.

Hate it all you want but the cutting edge is no longer being developed by us America white dudes. Venture, tech, innovation etc is still dominated by the U.S., but not by us native white guys.

I am one of those white dudes trying to compete, and I am in the minority.


Elon has been in the US for like 35 years. Sutskever is Canadian. C'mon! Also, every white person born in this country ultimately came from somewhere else if you go back far enough.

Ethnic minorities are doing very little, if any, innovation.
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Nanomachines son said:



Spot on here.


The flames of the Imperium burn brightly in the hearts of men repulsed by degenerate modernity. Souls aflame with love of goodness, truth, beauty, justice, and order.
Nanomachines son
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gbaby23 said:

Some ethnic minorities forever harbor resentment that they were turned down by the pretty white girl in high school.


For many this is exactly it is. They are mad their own women sleep with whites while they get mad white women turn them down.
VerdeAg
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Nanomachines son
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VerdeAg said:

He was a probably a nerd who had zero social skills but felt he was superior to everybody. Funny thing is many jocks in HS were also on the honor roll, honor societies, etc... and got girls


All of my friends played football and were all ranked high in our class. All of the men at my church in my Bible study were all former jocks. We are all successful in life, married, and have families.

This was always a lie meant to deracinate and destroy American culture. This is the group that leads the wildcatter mentality and the group that charged into the unknown Frontier knowing that violence will come for them at some point.
Keyno
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VerdeAg said:


This is a trash take. Infinity indians will work for cheap. They dont want to leave
Nanomachines son
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Keyno said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

Hes a crony opportunist.

He will **** anybody over to make a dollar. I have zero sympathy for him and I hope the rest of the conservatives on here realize hes in it for himself
If there is a succinct way to accurately sum up the upper crust of Indian culture...it is this. There are exceptions, of course. But that is a prevailing cultural trait. Honor, honestly, compassion, charity...heavily lacking.

Many non-Christian socieites have tremendous cultural flaws.
Yeah, if Indians were only Christian they'd be just like Europeans
Eurotrash are not very Christian these days. Haven't been in a while. But with many of their citizens, there is still SOME concept of self-sacrifice for others, charity, good will towards fellow man etc. A remnant of Christianity.

In the third world poop-field heap of trash that is Hindustan, many of these concepts are nonexistent.


Europe may not be as Christian but even before it was Christian they had many Christian values. For example, the Germanic tribes were reported to be extremely monogamous by the Romans and were socially conservative back then internally. These traits won't go away and have been part of that culture for many thousands of years.
Muktheduck
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Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more
This is insane btw. Why on Earth should you get to hijack the infrastructure that Americans built up over the course of centuries, exploit that created value gap and give it to foreigners, all in the name of further enriching yourself at the expense of your fellow countrymen?

If you believe those foreign workers are truly smarter, more industrious, superior etc., you ought to be required to leave the country and go work with them in their respective homelands. No more freeloading off the structure that Americans built; go build your own structure with those superior workers you like to boast about.

Of course nobody ever does this because deep down you understand the value your company is generating is contingent primarily not on you or your workers but on the societal and economic system that white Americans built up over generations.
Nanomachines son
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Sophon7 said:

Another thing hurting Americans is wage expectations. I have guys in South America, Egypt, and Eastern Europe working for $40k/yr in jobs that it would take 70-110k to get an American.

And, they work harder and smarter, expect little to no benefits, and will appreciate bonuses and raises far more


Why won't you Americans work for dirt poor salaries? See these foreigners are so much more hard working than you!

*never mind that one American is worth 20 foreigners*
Nanomachines son
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Sea Speed said:

It's wild how much of Twitter is nothing but this issue. I'd say 90% of my feed is this issue.

I work in a heavily Indian dominated industry/company and it absolutely keeps my wages artificially deflated.


Mine is 99% this issue right now.
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I've worked for 2 Indian owned companies.

I say f them. It's a corrupted culture to the core that will do nothing but screw anyone over that is not in their group or caste. I've seen high level VPs treat white and Indian Americans like absolute garbage and be shocked when they are called out on it. One of the biggest reason that Indians are so "successful" in the US is because their homeland is so corrupt only the elite castes can get here.

I'm fine with H1-B visas, but I want strict limits on quotas by countries. It's one of the biggest reasons I can't wrap my head around supporting Vivek.
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As has been pointed put, statistically, American, European, and Canadian Tech engineers are the best in the world.

The same thing is going on in healthcare. Indian Healthcare providers are overall inferior to Americans.

However CEO's are pushing for more Indian H1-B visas because the cost of the labor is cheaper and they will work longer slave like hours for a few years before going back to India.

It's absolutely gross and abhorrent.

These companies are oftentimes making record profits. And can strong arm these workers into basic indentured servitude or not get their Visa renewed by their employer.

Pay American workers and more people will train to fill those jobs.
Nanomachines son
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VerdeAg said:

I genuinely cant imagine working with them, I remember being on the bus near the engineering schools. Holy Christ


Yeah it's pretty bad. Apparently they have to remind them about proper hygiene in many of these companies and have classes to teach them how to use the toilet correctly.
 
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