H1-Bs and Trump's AI advisor

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In reply to Sid Farkas • 10:39a, 12/26/24
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VerdeAg said:
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We want all of the world's best like Elon Musk and the Nutella guy from Microsoft to come here.

We want tons of talented people to legally migrate here. We have imported enough peasants to clean homes and mow lawns for several generations,

Anyone who's unhappy with foreigners being here should focus their efforts on making local talent more competitive (e.g. Burning and rebuilding public schools, severely curtailing government support for non productive learning disciplines)...dont shut off the flow of foreign talent until we're ready to fill the jobs they're taking.
There is PLENTY of talent here who can do the jobs these supposed "high skilled" immigrants can do. Again it just boils back down to companies wanting cheap labor
all the low cost people I work with sit in India and work late into their night to support us. The immigrants from low cost countries live here and are paid the going rate. You're not going to do anything about farming out work to low cost countries...

Maybe my place of business is unique.
Bull***** The immigrants here are paid pennies on the dollar to work slave hours because they have no other option. And, yes, we can and will do something about the disastrous off shoring problem.

They provide inferior service for slave wages. If your place of business supports that, I hope it goes out of business.
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10:40a, 12/26/24
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If domestic policy makes foreign recruitment more practical for business, then the policy should be changed. Our functions should be to our benefit.
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10:42a, 12/26/24
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They are also some seriously racist and sexist mofos. No females should be good with this shift.
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 10:42a, 12/26/24
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If domestic policy makes foreign recruitment more practical for business, then the policy should be changed. Our functions should be to our benefit.
I dont think its a domestic policy as much as it is the company maximizing profit as much as possible regardless of how it impacts Americans. These corporations out for themselves not America, if they can legally hire foreigners and pay them less than Americans and work them longer and harder why wouldn't they
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 10:42a, 12/26/24
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If domestic policy makes foreign recruitment more practical for business, then the policy should be changed. Our functions should be to our benefit.
Thats the nationalistic point of view (which I agree with). Sadly alot of self styled "conservatives" worship the free market. Free market says we should import infinity Indians for cheap labor unfortunately.
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10:43a, 12/26/24


Now here we have Vivek calling us Americans dumb morons and idiots incapable of producing good engineers. All of these people are exactly the same, they only care about importing a billion Indians.
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10:45a, 12/26/24
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In reply to gbaby23 • 10:46a, 12/26/24
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You just need to be willing to work 100 hours a week.
If I'm reading their page correct, their tweet is a bit misleading. The Gauntlet (the 12 week training course) is 80-100 hours per week.

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4 weeks remote, 8 weeks all-expenses-paid in Austin, Texas. 80-100 hours/week.

https://www.gauntletai.com/ has minimal details about the "guaranteed $200K/year" job after completion, other than:
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This intensive 12-week program is designed to develop the next generation of AI-enabled technical leaders, preparing graduates for the $200K/year roles with the participating companies. (As demand outstrips supply we are currently unable to accommodate additional companies, but hopeful future companies can get in touch with us here.)

I dunno, sounds fishy to me, but if I were a budding AI engineer and currently jobless, I'd jump on the free 12 course, even if the job guarantee is bogus.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 10:46a, 12/26/24
LMAO he basically doesn't want Americans to relax or have a life outside of work. I hope this clown never has power
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In reply to VerdeAg • 10:51a, 12/26/24
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LMAO he basically doesn't want Americans to relax or have a life outside of work. I hope this clown never has power










Every single time an Indian comments in support of the H1-B program it never means supporting the best and the brightest coming here, it always means more Indians. The H1-B system is already 73% Indian. Why do we not use this program to get more North East Asians or Europeans here? Why is it only used to import a billion Indians?
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 10:51a, 12/26/24
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If Indian culture creates India, I want it nowhere near America.
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10:53a, 12/26/24
We should be importing people but we should be exclusively bringing in Christian families from places like central and south America and Eastern Europe. Only families.

We need Christian breeders to help us peacefully annihilate the godless and depraved white left. Even more moderate white liberals cry when gay cartoon p0rn books are removed from elementary schools. It's hard to imagine a hell hot enough for them.
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In reply to gbaby23 • 10:53a, 12/26/24
The funny thing is everybody against Vivek,Elon right now are asking if Indian talent is so great why dont they use that talent in India; no responses
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 10:54a, 12/26/24
Vivek is another Theil guy. And Indian obviously. These people do not care about America or Americans. They care about profit
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In reply to VerdeAg • 10:55a, 12/26/24
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The funny thing is everybody against Vivek,Elon right now are asking if Indian talent is so great why dont they use that talent in India; no responses
Not just that, why don't Russia or China import millions of Indians? Don't they want to win the tech war?

Only Westerners are stupid enough to import indians for cheap labor.
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10:56a, 12/26/24
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"You get what you pay for" has never been personified more clearly than the reliance on H1-Bs or outsourcing to India
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In reply to gbaby23 • 10:58a, 12/26/24
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VerdeAg said:
The funny thing is everybody against Vivek,Elon right now are asking if Indian talent is so great why dont they use that talent in India; no responses
Not just that, why don't Russia or China import millions of Indians? Don't they want to win the tech war?

Only Westerners are stupid enough to import indians for cheap labor.
Self styled "conservatives" have been brainwashed for 30 years into thinking "free market is conservative".

Russians and Chinese do not think this
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10:59a, 12/26/24
Im glad people are waking up to this and not just blatantly agreeing with Elon because he says so
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10:59a, 12/26/24
I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality
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In reply to Sophon7 • 11:01a, 12/26/24
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I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality
Bull***** White people built the tech industry. The ethnic mafias hiring their compatriots and outsourcing their jobs back to the "homeland" is a problem.

I guarantee America will continue to the lead the world entirely without any immigration.

Maybe those ethnic minorities should make something of themselves in the country where they remit so much money? If white people are so terrible why do they need access to us and our country to make something of themselves?
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In reply to gbaby23 • 11:03a, 12/26/24
Agreed, if the chinese and indians are such rockstar talents why arent they doing it in China and India.
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In reply to Sophon7 • 11:05a, 12/26/24
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I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality


This is a blatant lie. Everyone knows what is happening. It's blatant employment discrimination and scams.

The idea that 330 million Americans do not have the drive to do these things is absolute garbage. Go back and look at the teams from Bell Labs, Xerox, IBM, DARPA, etc from the 1950s and 60s. It was a bunch of men from small town USA. The people are all here, it's absolutely ridiculous to claim otherwise and I'm tired of people straight up lying about Americans.

I went to grad school in engineering, I have seen the quality of the foreign H1-B engineer throughout my career. I have never once been impressed with them.
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11:06a, 12/26/24


Exactly
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In reply to Sophon7 • 11:06a, 12/26/24
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I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality
Mind blowing that so many of these people come from a disgusting primitive hellhole where grown adults poop in open fields along train tracks and the general populace has no concept of consideration for others, waiting in lines etc. Even the wealthy Indian people are heartless and will nickle and dime you out of your commission as a luxury car dealer (according to several friends). You are trash to them. It's a pretty nasty, inconsiderate culture. I had a friend who would just avoid Indian people over the age of 50 or so...too many times they were an absolute time suck and played like your friend until it came time to do a deal and then could not care less that you had a family to feed and even a tiny commission would help. They had to save that extra $100-200 on that $120k car...because F*** YOU, that's why.

That being said, as trashy as their country is, I think we attract their very best and brightest...and wealthiest. So naturally, a disproportionate % are going to be high achievers. Then there is the factor that their families left everything behind to give them better opportunity, so the pressure for 1st gen to succeed is astronomical. Will wither out and they will fall closer to the mean in the next few generations when their children are captured by the pop culture and they decide to pursue worthless degrees etc.

What a nasty culture though...India I mean. Sorry, Hindustan.
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11:07a, 12/26/24
They will eventually start outsourcing other sectors if they aren't already (accounting, telemedicine, financial services, civil engineering)
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11:08a, 12/26/24


I hear this over and over and over. This is the reality for whites in the US and this will be the lesson I will drill into my sons. They are on their own and society will be setup entirely against them. They will have to help themselves and others like them if they want to succeed.

Now imagine a scenario where it becomes impossible for these men to find work. People aren't going to like the end result of where this is going.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 11:11a, 12/26/24
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I hear this over and over and over. This is the reality for whites in the US and this will be the lesson I will drill into my sons. They are on their own and society will be setup entirely against them. They will have to help themselves and others like them if they want to succeed.

Now imagine a scenario where it becomes impossible for these men to find work. People aren't going to like the end result of where this is going.
Good thing for the open borders crowd that white men own such a dispropotionately low amt of the guns in this country.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 11:16a, 12/26/24
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All these posts are redundant and not effective. Just say Americans First. Just say no more immigration. Don't explain yourself
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In reply to VerdeAg • 11:19a, 12/26/24
VerdeAg said:
Im Gipper said:
I will take Trump and Musk over the loudmouths on Twitter with no actual knowledge or experience.
America's need and her people should be put first.

Elon can hire Americans but he's too cheap and wants to work them round the clock.


Sounds like you're saying he's a capitalist businessman.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Keyno • 11:20a, 12/26/24
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Nanomachines son said:






All these posts are redundant and not effective. Just say Americans First. Just say no more immigration. Don't explain yourself


I see no reason to remain nice to people who want to turn the US into India 2.0. I would rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become that.
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In reply to Sophon7 • 11:20a, 12/26/24
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I've been in the startup and tech world for a decade now, have raised from a16z, etc., and been around some extremely talented founders.

Founders and leaders in innovation and tech are almost entirely ethnic minorities and/or foreign born.

Native born white guys are getting dominated and very very few have the drive, intelligence, work ethic, and personality


Complete nonsense. I've never seen innovation of any sort coming out of India. Same with China. They are immitators, not innovators. Always have been. Every major tech company in the world was stated by whitey. Elon Musk, Sam Altman and Ilya Sutskever, whitey , founded by Open AI, the first major AI initiative. Alan Turning, whitey, is considered the father of AI. I can list the folks making technological breakthroughs of the last 100 years and 99% are whitey.
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 11:21a, 12/26/24
Hes a crony opportunist.

He will **** anybody over to make a dollar. I have zero sympathy for him and I hope the rest of the conservatives on here realize hes in it for himself
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 11:23a, 12/26/24
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I hear this over and over and over. This is the reality for whites in the US and this will be the lesson I will drill into my sons. They are on their own and society will be setup entirely against them. They will have to help themselves and others like them if they want to succeed.

Now imagine a scenario where it becomes impossible for these men to find work. People aren't going to like the end result of where this is going.


They can always ask every race that had to deal with those same issues, and worse, over the past few centuries, how they handled things like this.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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