I'd like to see it changed to where if the government shuts down, there is no backpay except for those employees deemed critical and required to work during the shutdown.TX AG 88 said:
As a gov (DoD) employee, I understand y'all's frustration. I'm also a taxpayer.
I am dedicated to my job and the mission of my organization. I don't want to be shut out of work, and I don't want "free" days off due to automatic back-pay. It's ridiculous.
But I'm just a flea on the big dog's back. It's the politicians that my frustration/anger is directed at, and I hope yours would be, too.
If I could be king for a minute, i'd put a provision in place that if the government ever shuts down, even for a second, every Representative and Senator holding office at that moment would be ineligible for re-election. Bet that would fix this problem.
Shutdown tomorrow:: I guess it's the Ds fault now ?
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infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
Government shutdown is only "nonessential" positions who get back pay when government reopens. Unfortunately it doesn't include inessential personnel like members of Congress who should work for no pay and no backpay until they get their act together.
The stupid part is that if Congress would do their primary function, which is passing a real budget, then government shutdowns would not ever be an issue.
It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
From what I've noticed, some people are just so miserable in their lives that they just want everything else to go to sheet so the "others" whom they hate will be made miserable to match their miserable lives as well. "If I can't have a happy life, no one can " mentality.infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
Then there are the others whose lives are so privileged that a shutdown wouldn't affect them, so to them, it's a joy to see others suffer.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
tactics.Tom Fox said:I'd like to see it changed to where if the government shuts down, there is no backpay except for those employees deemed critical and required to work during the shutdown.TX AG 88 said:
As a gov (DoD) employee, I understand y'all's frustration. I'm also a taxpayer.
I am dedicated to my job and the mission of my organization. I don't want to be shut out of work, and I don't want "free" days off due to automatic back-pay. It's ridiculous.
But I'm just a flea on the big dog's back. It's the politicians that my frustration/anger is directed at, and I hope yours would be, too.
If I could be king for a minute, i'd put a provision in place that if the government ever shuts down, even for a second, every Representative and Senator holding office at that moment would be ineligible for re-election. Bet that would fix this problem.
This, plus Congress takes a 5% reduction in their office budgets. Then, a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced budget, with a Congressional penalty of no pay for them.or their staff.
The media is already rolling out the sob stories, I heard one this morning about a fed family that is one missed paycheck away from foreclosure. Apparently, having an emergency fund in place never occurred to them.
Psycho Bunny said:
I am going to miss my FBI guy. Even had pumpkin bread made for him.
Can't work from home if you have no home.CheeseSndwch said:
The media is already rolling out the sob stories, I heard one this morning about a fed family that is one missed paycheck away from foreclosure. Apparently, having an emergency fund in place never occurred to them.
It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
People will continue to get SS checks. You are mistaken or fear mongering.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
Why would a spending bill need to be passed to fund Social Security? Are you implying Social Security isn't already fully funded and the Social Security trust fund is some sort of giant Ponzi scheme!?
SS and SSI checks still get deposited (as they are part of mandatory spending). Medicare/Medicaid still provides healthcare coverage for those eligible (again, part of mandatory spending). The VAs still remain open. Where is this narrative coming from that if the federal government shuts down that all government activities stop (as one poster claimed, anarchy)?DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
You sound like my 75 year old mother in law who watches the view.
ETA: and my 79 year old mother.
ETA: and my 79 year old mother.
Wrong. A 5 second google search will tell you that SS and Medicare and SNAP continue during a shutdown.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
The only thing that could personally affect you is if you planned to go to a national park or airshow. If Biden is feeling extra spiteful, he'll put barricades around open air memorials like Obama did.
B-1 83 said:Is there some sort of unwritten rule where congressmen can't call out others by listing their idiotic pork projects contained in the budget?Cromagnum said:
We need line item votes. I'm tired of these porkulus bills.
I heard yesterday that there is an initiative put forth to put footnotes on every bill to clearly show who put what into the bill.
Does it? Stop lying.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
Appears you might be being gaslit
Except they can be more readily excused for spouting blatant falsehoods.oldcrow91 said:
You sound like my 75 year old mother in law who watches the view.
ETA: and my 79 year old mother.
You are correct, SS isn't impacted, however, the last Govt shutdown in 2018 caused major headaches for my father in laws health care. Bottom line is these buffoons both D and R are elected to govern, to compromise, negotiate and work together to get things done. Unfortunately, the days of Lloyd Bentsen and Phil Graham working together FOR Texas in spite of differing political parties are over. Our elected officials are more concerned with sound bites, fund raising, social media exposure, and running for reelection 24/7/365 than actually trying to get things done.93MarineHorn said:People will continue to get SS checks. You are mistaken or fear mongering.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
Working together is what caused the mess. Interest on our debt will collapse us very soon, yet apparently only 38 republicans are serious about it.
Who?mikejones! said:
That's not what a shutdown is, but you know that.
Didn't know you wanted big daddy govt to keep you in line.
Quote:
A government shutdown occurs when Congress fails to fund federal agencies, leading to closures of non-essential services, furloughs, and delays in public programs, while essential operations continue without immediate pay for employees.
It is dumb of people who want to turn us into a 3rd world country.
That's not true. John Cornyn caves for the Dems all the time.DVM97 said:You are correct, SS isn't impacted, however, the last Govt shutdown in 2018 caused major headaches for my father in laws health care. Bottom line is these buffoons both D and R are elected to govern, to compromise, negotiate and work together to get things done. Unfortunately, the days of Lloyd Bentsen and Phil Graham working together FOR Texas in spite of differing political parties are over. Our elected officials are more concerned with sound bites, fund raising, social media exposure, and running for reelection 24/7/365 than actually trying to get things done.93MarineHorn said:People will continue to get SS checks. You are mistaken or fear mongering.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
Lol. That's not what happens with a govt shutdown.
93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
So how about shutdown for ever. You support that?
Who?mikejones! said:
Lol. That's not what happens with a govt shutdown.
hahahhahaha you have no clue then.
Go read up.
infinity ag said:93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
So how about shutdown for ever. You support that?
The chicken littles are out in force.
Can you help me understand who is actually affected by this shutdown? Worst I can come up with is people will miss a couple paychecks that are guaranteed to get paid back. That's significantly better than the private sector where you can miss a few paychecks and then never get paid by that company again at any time. Sorry if I don't lose any sleep over people that don't have an emergency fund set up for these situations.
I feel worse for the people that had a vacation planned to a national park and get that ruined. They don't get back pay on their vacation time they used up.
I feel worse for the people that had a vacation planned to a national park and get that ruined. They don't get back pay on their vacation time they used up.
Gov't shutdowns or threats to allow a shutdown are part of the negotiations. The original bill is a steaming turd of pork barrel giveaways and needs to go down. The public was given a day to read 1500 plus pages. If Dems and establishment Rs want to keep things like $3B for a football stadium I welcome them to die on that hill.DVM97 said:You are correct, SS isn't impacted, however, the last Govt shutdown in 2018 caused major headaches for my father in laws health care. Bottom line is these buffoons both D and R are elected to govern, to compromise, negotiate and work together to get things done. Unfortunately, the days of Lloyd Bentsen and Phil Graham working together FOR Texas in spite of differing political parties are over. Our elected officials are more concerned with sound bites, fund raising, social media exposure, and running for reelection 24/7/365 than actually trying to get things done.93MarineHorn said:People will continue to get SS checks. You are mistaken or fear mongering.DVM97 said:It means my in-laws and mother don't get their social security and health care benefits, it means people go without the basic essentials they have earned from decades of work. Missing a check or two and getting it "later" isn't an option for diabetics and people on fixed incomes. A shutdown impacts millions of people who have earned benefits that the government provides, and it is the elected officials job to keep the government functioning.93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
infinity ag said:93MarineHorn said:It seems you don't know what happens when FedGov "shuts down".infinity ag said:
Why do some folks here want a Govt shutdown?
How does anarchy sound? Do you want us to become Pakistan or Syria?
This is as idiotic as the "defund the police" kooks who then demand the police to find their stuff.
It has minimal/zero impact on most people's lives. Dems will go squealing to the significantly less influential msm. There will be some manufactured sob stories. Bring it on!
So how about shutdown for ever. You support that?
Yes. 1000%. Insert "your terms are acceptable" meme
There's been a govt shutdown about every 2.5 years in average for the last 50 years.
Theres nearly 0 impact to the regular joe. A tovt shutdown like this doesn't impact of third world status journey or the level of anarchy.
Theres nearly 0 impact to the regular joe. A tovt shutdown like this doesn't impact of third world status journey or the level of anarchy.
F16: no one is even going to notice if the government shuts down!
Also F16: shutting down the government will put all the pressure on the Dems to give in!
I'm not sure the Dems will care. By law everyone is going to get all their checks anyway, and this just makes Trump look bad at the start of his new administration
Also F16: shutting down the government will put all the pressure on the Dems to give in!
I'm not sure the Dems will care. By law everyone is going to get all their checks anyway, and this just makes Trump look bad at the start of his new administration
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