Eat all the red meat you want

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Quo Vadis?
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BigFred said:

AggieVictor10 said:

Carnivores stay winning.
Soy ****libs stay losing.
Buckle up.
Vegan here:

Red meat is a known class A carcinogen. Tofu and jack fruit are great subs.

Buckle up!


Enjoy the manboobs
BigFred
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Quo Vadis? said:

BigFred said:

AggieVictor10 said:

Carnivores stay winning.
Soy ****libs stay losing.
Buckle up.
Vegan here:

Red meat is a known class A carcinogen. Tofu and jack fruit are great subs.

Buckle up!


Enjoy the manboobs
Lol.. Nah. Great diet and work out.
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Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
I don't think you know me.
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Psycho Bunny
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Rules.... Without them, we live with the animals.

This is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules.
BigFred
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Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.
Logos Stick
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BigFred said:

AggieVictor10 said:

Carnivores stay winning.
Soy ****libs stay losing.
Buckle up.
Vegan here:

Red meat is a known class A carcinogen.


Misinformation, per usual.
BigFred
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Logos Stick said:

BigFred said:

AggieVictor10 said:

Carnivores stay winning.
Soy ****libs stay losing.
Buckle up.
Vegan here:

Red meat is a known class A carcinogen.


Misinformation, per usual.
Well documented!
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Science is for nerds.
the most cool guy
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Owlagdad said:

Red meat got my Grandpa at 91 and Dad and Mom at 88.
Y'all better leave it alone.

T&P. Got my grandad at 98 as well. Taken from us too early.
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the most cool guy said:

Owlagdad said:

Red meat got my Grandpa at 91 and Dad and Mom at 88.
Y'all better leave it alone.

T&P. Got my grandad at 98 as well. Taken from us too early.
Drinking whiskey and smoking a cigarette every morning got one man to live to be 105!. But that certainly doesn't mean that this routine will work for the vast majority of people.
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Class A? Causes cancer? It's classified 2A as declared by WHO. Not as scary as you want us to believe. It's only fitting you are literally a soy consuming man too haha

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Red meat falls into the same category, group 2A, as the emissions from frying food at high temperatures. Additionally, exposure to various substances whilst working as a hairdresser or barber is also found in this category. Remember, this simply means the substances or exposures in this group all probably cause cancer, and doesn't tell us the level of the risks.


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ETA the link

https://www.compoundchem.com/2023/07/14/carcinogens/

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CrackerJackAg said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

Early on in the pandemic I started eating NY Strips with raw spinach at least 4-5 times per week. Usually Chicken or Salmon for the other meals. The health benefits were tremendous.
Rich.


NY Strip is cheap. $8/lb or so for basic select at HEB.

8 oz with raw spinach. What are we talking? $5-6?

Cheaper than McDonald's.




Our HEB regularly runs choice boneless NY strips for $5.99 a pound.

And don't sleep on good sirloin as well. Ours runs Prime boneless sirloin for $4.99 at least once a month
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Researchers have identified a consistent pattern of DNA damage in the colorectal tumors of people with frequent consumption of red and processed meat.

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BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal species when they arrived in the Americas.
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BigFred said:

Researchers have identified a consistent pattern of DNA damage in the colorectal tumors of people with frequent consumption of red and processed meat.





Are these the same researchers that said masks worked and that COVID didn't just kill old fat people?


And processed meat isn't what's being discussed here.
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You meat lovers need to check out Deep Nutrition. Taught me a lot more about Nutrition than medical school did in the 90s.

https://drcate.com/

https://drcate.com/why-cholesterol-is-good/
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
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Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.
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BigFred said:

Researchers have identified a consistent pattern of DNA damage in the colorectal tumors of people with frequent consumption of red and processed meat.




I guess the science is settled

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat

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Red meat was classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans. What does this mean exactly?
In the case of red meat, the classification is based on limited evidence from epidemiological studies showing positive associations between eating red meat and developing colorectal cancer as well as strong mechanistic evidence.

Limited evidence means that a positive association has been observed between exposure to the agent and cancer but that other explanations for the observations (technically termed chance, bias, or confounding) could not be ruled out.


Or not
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BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.


Bows and Arrows have been around for 50,000+ years.

Logos Stick
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BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.


Exactly when did cows and sheep and goats first appear on the planet? I look forward to your wisdom. Thanks!
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BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


I doubt your sources, like any rational thinker but if it were true, I guess that type of diet (non-red meat) would explain their lack of intellect, similar to today.

Makes sense.
I don't think you know me.
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BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.


Their diets were basically the same. Also 8,000 BC is hardly cavemen. Native Americans crossed the Alaskan land bridge 30,000 years ago.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


I doubt your sources, like any rational thinker but if it were true, I guess that type of diet (non-red meat) would explain their lack of intellect, similar to today.

Makes sense.


Based on his woeful knowledge of history it's apparent his sources are his backside
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BigFred said:

Researchers have identified a consistent pattern of DNA damage in the colorectal tumors of people with frequent consumption of red and processed meat.


I like how you had to throw that in there. The same way researches for red meat tend to ignore the rest of the processed food and sugars these subjects ingest.

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KidDoc said:

You meat lovers need to check out Deep Nutrition. Taught me a lot more about Nutrition than medical school did in the 90s.

https://drcate.com/

https://drcate.com/why-cholesterol-is-good/


Can you give a one or a few sentence summary of the approach? I looked at the links and just saw seed oil bad.
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Just consumer a fantastic prime, 8oz filet. A little olive oil and dash of garlic salt.
Steamed spinach.
Stalworth Cab…..as the drink and carb. Really nice Merica wine for anyone interested.

No seed oils. Life is good.

MAHA. Really hope there is a significant recasting of our dietary food sourcing in the USA.
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rocky the dog said:





Needs a strip of bacon on top!
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KidDoc said:

You meat lovers need to check out Deep Nutrition. Taught me a lot more about Nutrition than medical school did in the 90s.

https://drcate.com/

https://drcate.com/why-cholesterol-is-good/

That's a good resource. Thanks for sharing.
Trump will fix it.
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When will you all learn not to engage with the trolls? Fred is either an idiot or a troll.

Don't engage.
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Tabasco said:

KidDoc said:

You meat lovers need to check out Deep Nutrition. Taught me a lot more about Nutrition than medical school did in the 90s.

https://drcate.com/

https://drcate.com/why-cholesterol-is-good/


Can you give a one or a few sentence summary of the approach? I looked at the links and just saw seed oil bad.
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BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/157.html#:~:text=Diets%20begin%20to%20include%20more,top%20of%20heated%20flat%20rocks.

Looks like they were shifting to more vegetables at that time; away from a diet rich in red meats.
Jim
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spud1910 said:

BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/157.html#:~:text=Diets%20begin%20to%20include%20more,top%20of%20heated%20flat%20rocks.

Looks like they were shifting to more vegetables at that time; away from a diet rich in red meats.
Sure, catching an animal in the wild with rudimentary weapons was not sustainable. But back to the original topic. Is eating red meat healthy?
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BigFred said:

spud1910 said:

BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/157.html#:~:text=Diets%20begin%20to%20include%20more,top%20of%20heated%20flat%20rocks.

Looks like they were shifting to more vegetables at that time; away from a diet rich in red meats.
Sure, catching an animal in the wild with rudimentary weapons was not sustainable. But back to the original topic. Is eating red meat healthy?
The plains Indians were much healthier than the more settled eastern tribes. The plains Indians obviously ate a diet that consisted primarily of meat, whereas the eastern tribes had a diet much heavier in vegetables and carbohydrates, such as corn.
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BigFred said:

spud1910 said:

BigFred said:

Teslag said:

BigFred said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

Having red meat in your diet has obviously worked since before the caveman.

The key to staying healthy is not sitting on your ass 24/7. The more "bad" food you eat, the more you need to stay off your ass. Rocket scientists aren't needed on this one. Move around, people.
The chances of a cave man catching an animal was few and far between. And if they did, they always ran the risk of the meat spoiling before they made it back to their caves.

They mostly ate, berries, nuts, tree leaves, etc.


False. Their diets were very similar to native Americans, which was extremely animal protein heavy. So much so that they led to the eradication of many animal specials when they arrived in the Americas.
No, not years 1400-15000 Native American Indians, with bows and arrows.

We are talking 8,000 BC! cavemen with rock hammers.
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nativevoices/timeline/157.html#:~:text=Diets%20begin%20to%20include%20more,top%20of%20heated%20flat%20rocks.

Looks like they were shifting to more vegetables at that time; away from a diet rich in red meats.
Sure, catching an animal in the wild with rudimentary weapons was not sustainable. But back to the original topic. Is eating red meat healthy?
I suspect it is healthier than we have been told. My point though was that your implication that cavemen didn't each much red meat doesn't seem to be the case.
Jim
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