Gaeilge said:TexAgs91 said:
That sucks. Trump needs to pick someone else as much like Gaetz as possible... Botox and all
Paxton is on the short list
No. Schmidt from Missouri.
Gaetz steps down from AG Nomination
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No. Schmidt from Missouri.
He would be good.
I'm relieved. I think it was unlikely to work out well even if he'd been able to get confirmed.
Central Committee said:
It was a horrible nomination by Trump. I love most of his picks but not this one. Everyone hates this guy. Trump needs a bulldog AG like Obama had in Holder, but appointing someone that even your own party hates is not a smart move.
On an unrelated note, I am holding out hope that Trump nominates Cruz to the SCOTUS when Clarence Thonas retires. That would cause the most epic meltdown by the Dems.
Good grief. Everyone hates Trump too!. What you posted was posted about Trump during both of his runs for the Presidency. Trump is not morally righteous. Did you forget he slept with a porn star and paid her off?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Trump could not have gotten confirmed for AG either. Maybe that should tell you something, but I got a strong feeling it won't.
He had how many US Attorney nominations last time who made it through vetting and confirmation without any big disloyalty issues. Some probably more loyal than others. Wouldn't be awful to start with that list instead of looking for splash headlines and social media reactions with every pick.LMCane said:
why do so many Trump fans believe there is ONLY ONE qualified person in a country of 330 million -
with 77 million who voted for Trump!?!?
it's frankly a form of leftism to believe in the "indispensable man"
there are LITERALLY 100 MAGA attorneys who can serve as the AG.
LMCane said:
why do so many Trump fans believe there is ONLY ONE qualified person in a country of 330 million -
with 77 million who voted for Trump!?!?
it's frankly a form of leftism to believe in the "indispensable man"
there are LITERALLY 100 MAGA attorneys who can serve as the AG.
Because they are on the fringe.
Anybody who thinks Gaetz was most qualified pick for the role is lying to themselves.
He was picked as an "FU" to the DOJ by Trump. Not because he was the most qualified.
Sure he clears the low bar of is/was a lawyer, but nobody looks at him as somebody noteworthy for this type of role. There's nothing to indicate he really could have done that role well beyond just blowing up the DOJ.
So whine and moan, but he won't be difficult to replace.
He was picked as an "FU" to the DOJ by Trump. Not because he was the most qualified.
Sure he clears the low bar of is/was a lawyer, but nobody looks at him as somebody noteworthy for this type of role. There's nothing to indicate he really could have done that role well beyond just blowing up the DOJ.
So whine and moan, but he won't be difficult to replace.
halfbean said:
If it had been a 17-year-old boy he wouldn't have had any problems
If he was into boys i don't think he wouldn't have made it as far as he did in the land of maga.
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Exactly why I wanted him. If the beltway likes someone, I don't trust them.Central Committee said:
It was a horrible nomination by Trump. I love most of his picks but not this one. Everyone hates this guy. Trump needs a bulldog AG like Obama had in Holder, but appointing someone that even your own party hates is not a smart move.
On an unrelated note, I am holding out hope that Trump nominates Cruz to the SCOTUS when Clarence Thonas retires. That would cause the most epic meltdown by the Dems.
Still needs to nominate someone that has a sledgehammer and gives zero ****s. Unfortunately, Gaetz may have too many skeletons, but he did have those traits at least
Folks, this is just a taste of the next four years.
Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
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Nope. He will have a hard time finding another candidate that will piss off so many people of different stripes.AgLiving06 said:
Anybody who thinks Gaetz was most qualified pick for the role is lying to themselves.
He was picked as an "FU" to the DOJ by Trump. Not because he was the most qualified.
Sure he clears the low bar of is/was a lawyer, but nobody looks at him as somebody noteworthy for this type of role. There's nothing to indicate he really could have done that role well beyond just blowing up the DOJ.
So whine and moan, but he won't be difficult to replace.
anyone who questions Trump is not a libtard.
anyone who posts "dear leader" when referring to Trump as some sort of generalization that all anti-communists who voted for Trump over Hillary, Biden, or Kamala somehow worships Trump is definitely a libtard.
anyone who posts "dear leader" when referring to Trump as some sort of generalization that all anti-communists who voted for Trump over Hillary, Biden, or Kamala somehow worships Trump is definitely a libtard.
Sid Farkas said:
Swamp 1, MAGA 0
Or maybe Common Sense 1, Gaetz 0.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
And for the record, I wouldn't like him as AG even if none of that was true. He's a self interested shock jock who has been a pain in the ass to republican legislators for too long. He actively hurts the cause.
Other than him and RFK I'm fine with the other appointments
Other than him and RFK I'm fine with the other appointments
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oh no said:
anyone who questions Trump is not a libtard.
anyone who posts "dear leader" when referring to Trump as some sort of generalization that all anti-communists who voted for Trump over Hillary, Biden, or Kamala somehow worships Trump is definitely a libtard.
The tears are somehow getting sweeter!
My dislike of Gaetz has NOTHING to do with the accusation he slept with a 17 year old girl. I would not be surprised that it is a setup and political dirty trick. Terrible assumption you are making that I care about that issue, and flat wrong.
The problem with Gaetz is his attitude and predisposition toward going nuclear when he does not get his way. He is not just hated by the swamp, he is hated by true conservatives. When Ted Cruz (who i have enormous respect for) says that Gaetz is a terrible choice then even those of us who are extremely conservative should reconsider supporting this nominee.
The problem with Gaetz is his attitude and predisposition toward going nuclear when he does not get his way. He is not just hated by the swamp, he is hated by true conservatives. When Ted Cruz (who i have enormous respect for) says that Gaetz is a terrible choice then even those of us who are extremely conservative should reconsider supporting this nominee.
We may not always get what we want. We may not always get what we need. Just so we don't get what we deserve.
torrid said:Nope. He will have a hard time finding another candidate that will piss off so many people of different stripes.AgLiving06 said:
Anybody who thinks Gaetz was most qualified pick for the role is lying to themselves.
He was picked as an "FU" to the DOJ by Trump. Not because he was the most qualified.
Sure he clears the low bar of is/was a lawyer, but nobody looks at him as somebody noteworthy for this type of role. There's nothing to indicate he really could have done that role well beyond just blowing up the DOJ.
So whine and moan, but he won't be difficult to replace.
Which is a pretty crappy goal.
i want somebody who will clean the filth that's been growing in the DOJ. I want someone who will actually enforces the laws on the books.
If he happens to piss people off, even better, but to have that as a primary goal is silly worthless.
it's obvious they didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict him of any crimes after Merrick's DOJ went after yet another political opponent they didn't like.Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
Sometimes it feels like Trump is a political genius, other times he does something that you can't begin to comprehend how he thought it was a good idea. Here's to hoping this isn't a sign that we are about to go through 4 years of Trump and the Rs tripping over their own ds.
Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged. So they split the baby.
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So a Merrick Garland DOJ uncovered "unsavory things" about one of the loudest and most outspoken bulldogs against them, and did nothing?Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged.
And you somehow think that's obvious that he did something wrong?
Say it, stop dancing. You said there are facts and its obvious. What exactly are accusing him of?
oh no said:it's obvious they didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict him of any crimes after Merrick's DOJ went after yet another political opponent they didn't like.Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
Then why not release their findings which is standard practice in such instances?
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Infection_Ag11 said:oh no said:it's obvious they didn't have enough evidence to charge and convict him of any crimes after Merrick's DOJ went after yet another political opponent they didn't like.Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:
.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
Then why not release their findings which is standard practice in such instances?
Hold up now!
Standard practice to release findings on someone no longer in Congress?
Where did you read that???
I'm Gipper
Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
The DOJ investigation ended it's investigation two years ago!. The House doesn't prosecute people. They don't do criminal investigations.
It's pretty obvious you make baseless claims and dont understand what happened here.
Heineken-Ashi said:So a Merrick Garland DOJ uncovered "unsavory things" about one of the loudest and most outspoken bulldogs against them, and did nothing?Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged.
And you somehow think that's obvious that he did something wrong?
Say it, stop dancing. You said there are facts and its obvious. What exactly are accusing him of?
It's beyond reasonable dispute at this point that he has paid prostitutes for sex. We have his messages and Venmo receipts and multiple witnesses. So that would be what I'm accusing him of. I'm sure a lot of congressmen have done the same. But the AG of the United States can't be someone whom it's understood by everyone pays prostitutes for sex.
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The Collective said:
Sometimes it feels like Trump is a political genius, other times he does something that you can't begin to comprehend how he thought it was a good idea. Here's to hoping this isn't a sign that we are about to go through 4 years of Trump and the Rs tripping over their own ds.
So instead of 4-D chess we are getting 4-D grab-ass?
The Senate was never going to do this. He was poisonous after the leadership fight. Pence, McCarthy and a lot of the establishment were absolutely all in on killing this. Probably for the best, never thought he'd get it. Hoping for the Missouri AG but hope the rest make it.
aezmvp said:
The Senate was never going to do this. He was poisonous after the leadership fight. Pence, McCarthy and a lot of the establishment were absolutely all in on killing this. Probably for the best, never thought he'd get it. Hoping for the Missouri AG but hope the rest make it.
Just not sure why they'd even try with Gaetz if they knew this would be the result. It was obvious that many of the GOP would vehemently oppose the nomination. Should have your ducks in a row before you nominate.
Gaetz is out of Congress and no longer in contention for AG?
Win win for America!
Win win for America!
Can you post them? I haven't seen them.Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:So a Merrick Garland DOJ uncovered "unsavory things" about one of the loudest and most outspoken bulldogs against them, and did nothing?Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged.
And you somehow think that's obvious that he did something wrong?
Say it, stop dancing. You said there are facts and its obvious. What exactly are accusing him of?
It's beyond reasonable dispute at this point that he has paid prostitutes for sex. We have his messages and Venmo receipts and multiple witnesses. So that would be what I'm accusing him of. I'm sure a lot of congressmen have done the same. But the AG of the United States can't be someone whom it's understood by everyone pays prostitutes for sex.
The guy paid for prostitutes. Underage or not, to many that's a gateway to more Kompromat. No way he should be holding a position as important as AG.
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