WTAF is Biden doing?!? (Ukraine)

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12:50p, 11/17/24
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Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US long-range missiles to strike inside Russia: report https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-use-us-long-range-missiles-strike-inside-russia-report

Now we are escalating things? This is beyond stupid…
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12:55p, 11/17/24
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Sooo... start WW3 and use THAT as an excuse to declare national emergency and not hand over power to the incoming administration?!?
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12:56p, 11/17/24
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Well, to be fair, Russia has now repeatedly used Iranian and North Korean missiles to strike Ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructure so Russia is apparently just fine with that being part of the rules of this war. It seems fair that Ukraine be allowed to retaliate in kind with its own foreign obtained long range weapons. I'm not sure why we have restrained them for months after Russia escalated to doing this.
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12:56p, 11/17/24
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Honestly it's long overdue and will strengthen Trump's hand in trying to find a negotiated settlement. The slow bleed Biden has been utilizing was designed to enrich the MIC and their patrons. This will bring peace sooner and be much more humane for the Ukranians.
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12:57p, 11/17/24
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Should've done that in the beginning rather than ham stringing them fir the past two years. These people are ******ed and don't know how to win.
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1:00p, 11/17/24
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If you're gonna wage war then wage war.

The slap fighting doesn't solve anything.
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1:02p, 11/17/24
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Finally. Long overdue.
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1:02p, 11/17/24
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All these moves are being made to give them talking points later. They know what Trump will do.

They are simply trying to get in front of it so they can say "Trump was just completing what Biden started."


These are political moves and nothing more.
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Quo Vadis?
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1:02p, 11/17/24
Man, I thought Ukraine was all about being an independent country? Let them use their own missiles to hit deep inside Russia……oh wait.

Nice of Biden to lay WW3 on Trump's desk
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1:05p, 11/17/24
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That looks bad that we have to authorize them to defend themselves. The optics make it look like we are ordering the strikes.
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In reply to Quo Vadis? • 1:05p, 11/17/24
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Russia is using Iranian and North Korean arms to hit deep inside Ukraine.

What's good for the goose….
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1:06p, 11/17/24
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I imagine Putin renting ten thousand NK mercenaries was the escalation that pushed the Administration over the edge with ATACMS.......
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1:06p, 11/17/24
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JRB doesn't make this move without DJT knowing and approving. Likely a negotiating tactic for Trump. Authorizing use isn't the same as launching the missile.
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1:10p, 11/17/24
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Why is it ok for Russia to use Iranian weapons, Chinese weapons, and North Korean weapons and soldiers on Ukraine, but Ukraine can't do the equivalent to Russia? That's an LBJ/McNamara level of stupidity

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I wasn't aware we had invaded Mexico recently.
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1:12p, 11/17/24
Changes the framework from being a war of self defense.

When Russia escalates and makes things worse then the MIC is going to try to use that as an excuse to put boots on the ground.

And that is how you manufacture ww3
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1:16p, 11/17/24
i think we are playing with fire with this approval. this absolutely wil escalate a war that doesn't need to be escalated. this reeks of neocon panic.
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In reply to Ags4DaWin • 1:18p, 11/17/24
Ags4DaWin said:
Changes the framework from being a war of self defense.

When Russia escalates and makes things worse then the MIC is going to try to use that as an excuse to pit boots on the ground.

And that is how you manufacture ww3


Doesn't change the framework in the slightest. Still a war of self defense. Russia is continuously striking Ukrainian civilian infrastructure from standoff positions deep inside Russia that Ukraine otherwise has no means of threatening/countering. You can't fight a war of self defense if you're prohibited from acting defensively.
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1:21p, 11/17/24
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Unless there's some emergency, and there's not, with 64 days left Biden needs to stay out of it.
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In reply to FireAg • 1:29p, 11/17/24
FireAg said:
Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US long-range missiles to strike inside Russia: report https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-authorizes-ukraine-use-us-long-range-missiles-strike-inside-russia-report

Now we are escalating things? This is beyond stupid…
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WTAF is Biden doing?!?

Biden is loading up his depends and eating ice cream. The Obama mafia is authoring war.
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In reply to An L of an Ag • 1:29p, 11/17/24
An L of an Ag said:
Sooo... start WW3 and use THAT as an excuse to declare national emergency and not hand over power to the incoming administration?!?
lol, I despise biden and democrats, but do you seriously think that?
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1:31p, 11/17/24
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The military industrial group needs to make their money before Trump comes in. The swamp is seeing the end and they're pooping their pants.
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In reply to TyHolden • 1:32p, 11/17/24
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TyHolden said:
The military industrial group needs to make their money before Trump comes in. The swamp is seeing the end and they're pooping their pants.


Trump will bring g Putin to his knees with a deal
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In reply to B-1 83 • 1:33p, 11/17/24
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B-1 83 said:
Why is it ok for Russia to use Iranian weapons, Chinese weapons, and North Korean weapons and soldiers on Ukraine, but Ukraine can't do the equivalent to Russia? That's an LBJ/McNamara level of stupidity

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How would we react if Russia authorized Mexico to launch misses at US cities?9
I wasn't aware we had invaded Mexico recently.


I agree they should be able to defend themselves. I just hate the idea we are authorizing it. That seems beyond stupid. It makes it look like we are basically running the war
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1:38p, 11/17/24
Regardless of where you stand on using US missiles, Biden should have deferred to Trump on this.
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1:39p, 11/17/24
Let them use what we've already given them however they want to.

But cut off giving them any more aid until we get our issues domestically taken care of. We are in too much debt to be playing warmonger.
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In reply to FireAg • 1:40p, 11/17/24
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Xiden wants to hand Trump something as close to nuclear war as possible. He got his revenge on Kamala, now this bitter old man and his crime familia just want to make his successor's job as challenging as he can.

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1:44p, 11/17/24
Biden is doing what he always does, whatever he is told to do. Probably by Open Socieity Foundation and/or the Clinton Global Initiative.....you know, those friendly sounding philanthropies that exist to enrich those trying to undermine Trump.
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In reply to nortex97 • 1:50p, 11/17/24
Agree. This is Saddam Hussein "set the oil wells ablaze on your way out" strategy. Wonder what else he'll burn down on his way out.
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In reply to JB99 • 2:00p, 11/17/24
JB99 said:
B-1 83 said:
Why is it ok for Russia to use Iranian weapons, Chinese weapons, and North Korean weapons and soldiers on Ukraine, but Ukraine can't do the equivalent to Russia? That's an LBJ/McNamara level of stupidity

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How would we react if Russia authorized Mexico to launch misses at US cities?9
I wasn't aware we had invaded Mexico recently.


I agree they should be able to defend themselves. I just hate the idea we are authorizing it. That seems beyond stupid. It makes it look like we are basically running the war


Unfortunately, that's the way the Brandon administration has conducted things from square one, and consequently why this entire thing has been a consistent train wreck. Neither the US nor Ukraine has benefited from the strategy we've seen employed.
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2:02p, 11/17/24
Can Biden initiate direct action with Russia in the next 64-days?

Stay tuned ...
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 2:05p, 11/17/24
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Well, to be fair, Russia has now repeatedly used Iranian and North Korean missiles to strike Ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructure so Russia is apparently just fine with that being part of the rules of this war. It seems fair that Ukraine be allowed to retaliate in kind with its own foreign obtained long range weapons. I'm not sure why we have restrained them for months after Russia escalated to doing this.
Exactly. Ukraine should have been able to go mano-a-mano with Russia from the get-go.

Getter late than never AFAIC.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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2:08p, 11/17/24
Who is this Biden character you claim is making these decisions. I'd bet good money Joe Biden is not deciding these things.
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2:09p, 11/17/24
Remember that time Russia put missles in Cuba?
It was different bc we are the good guys, and Russia are the bad guys. But it is the same in that this is taking us to a place we have absolutely no business going.

How ironic. In 2020, Biden ran on avoiding a Trump WW3, now look at what's going on.
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In reply to BlueTaze • 2:16p, 11/17/24
We're nowhere near WW3 at this particular moment and I don't see a realistic scenario under which that happens. Russia isn't going to directly attack the US or NATO over anything that happens in Ukraine under the current scenario.
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In reply to Rossticus • 2:22p, 11/17/24
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Rossticus said:
We're nowhere near WW3 at this particular moment and I don't see a realistic scenario under which that happens. Russia isn't going to directly attack the US or NATO over anything that happens in Ukraine under the current scenario.
Exactly. Russia can't even beat piddly Ukraine after nearly three years trying, much less step up to US/NATO, too.
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