Trump's next cabinet-you think it will be better than the first?

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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

RFK has said Pres Trump told him he made mistakes in hiring his cabinet. I'd expect more outsiders this time if a 2nd term.
Trump openly admitted that on the JRE. Expect better choices this time
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outofstateaggie said:




Supposedly this is driving the DC insiders mad. They're used to providing public funding for the transition team and then have access to who is being considered. Not this time.
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Bob Knights Paper Hands said:

First, I do think we will see some differences. I think the first go around he kept some of the status quo because he was learning on the job. After not only having 4 years in office, but then having the last 4 years to reflect, I think we'll see him do more of what he believes to be correct and even less of the DC way.

Second, I agree with you that part of the reason we've seen this is related to him having a DC outsider style. I think the other part is a large portion of media actively looking to publicize anything that might be seen as a negative for Trump. I recently hear that Biden had a 92% turnover rate for appointed (I assumed cabinent) positions. Yes we don't hear about these people or have media members constantly trying to get dirty laundry aired.
Exactly...you hear pretty substantial rumors about unbearable hags like Kamala Harris and Shiela Jackson Lee being hated by staff and how they were treated like sh**...but the media NEVER reports on it.
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As any good swamp creature says..."the King is dead...long live the King!".
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rgvag11 said:




RFK rockin' blackface on the campaign train. That takes a lot of balls!
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rgvag11 said:

In a new interview from yesterday, Trump talked about several members of his former cabinet. Some quotes are below.

"John Kelly was a stupid person. He was a stiff."

"John Kelly was a man of rather low intelligence, who was a tough guy, who became a marshmallow. At the end, the guy couldn't even talk.

"Esper was a very weak person. Weak and ineffective."

"Mattis was a just guy who couldn't get it done."

"Milley was a total dope."

Starts at 7:30 mark https://wabcradio.com/episode/donald-trump-reviews-policy-with-john-catsimatidis-rita-cosby-10-24-24/

Some comments made by his first cabinet:

Bill Barr, his second Attorney General, said, "Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office."

Gen James Mattis, his first Secretary of Defense, said, "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us."

Mark Esper, his second Secretary of Defense, said, "I think he's unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well."

Gen Mark Milley, his chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, "We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America and we're willing to die to protect it."

Rex Tillerson, his first Secretary of State, said, "His understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand the concept for why we're talking about this."

Gen HR McMaster, his second National Security Advisor, said, "We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country."

John Bolton, his third National Security Advisor, said, "I believe they (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool."

Gen John Kelly, his second Chief of Staff, said, "A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us."

Mike Mulvaney, his third Chief of Staff, said, "I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that."

Betsy DeVos, his Secretary of Education, said, "When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn't see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn't continue."

Elaine Chao, his Secretary of Transportation, said, "At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

If elected, how good do you think Trump's new cabinet will be? Do you think we will see similar comments from his second cabinet that we have seen from his first over the past seven years? My guess is we will see these behavioral trends continue because his managerial and leadership styles are so different than what Washington is use to.


I don't think it will be objectively better. What I expect, though, is that he only hires people that will never tell him "no". It will be chocked full of people who buy everything he's selling. So, if having only 'yes men' in your cabinet who will never disagree with you is better....then I imagine it will be a great cabinet. Madhura has this same method. I don't think a high sense of morals and duty to the constitution before the President will be prereqs. I would be nervous about this set up, but as far as getting things done that Trump wants, then this is the way to go.
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oh no said:

Thank you, OP, for all the quotes and reminders of DC career politicians'' corrupt uniparty mindset. We can only hope Trump has learned enough about just how deep that swamp is because the alternative right now is the embrace and inhalation of full swamp ass.
Career politicians like Generals Kelly, McMasters and Mattis?
Career politician like former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson?
Career politician like Mark Esper, retired Army LTC, Chief of Staff of the Heritage Foundation, Secretary of the Army and SECDEF?
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Considering the huge step up in VP, I think the cabinet will also be much better. He kind of figured it out by 2019
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The Kraken said:

oh no said:

Thank you, OP, for all the quotes and reminders of DC career politicians'' corrupt uniparty mindset. We can only hope Trump has learned enough about just how deep that swamp is because the alternative right now is the embrace and inhalation of full swamp ass.
Career politicians like Generals Kelly, McMasters and Mattis?
Career politician like former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson?
Career politician like Mark Esper, retired Army LTC, Chief of Staff of the Heritage Foundation, Secretary of the Army and SECDEF?

All are woke LIBERAL swamp people. or so we are told.

In my opinion the rejection of him from those closest to him last time around is the most damning indictment of him. Its insane that this is even close.

Shows how weak the democrats are and how bad of a candidate Kamala is.
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Trump is not Michael Scott when it comes to firing people. He was actually quite famous and popular for firing people who sucked at their jobs on television before people were programmed to hate him.

ritaarded brainwashed people think the people he fired should love him and endorse him?



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He's already done a better job picking VPs.
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Pompeo, former CIA director, and Haley, former UN ambassador are out.

Stefanik will be UN ambassador.

Tom Homan, former head of ICE, is the new border czar.
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AG, CIA and head of DHS are three of the most critical appointments.
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rgvag11 said:

Stefanik will be UN ambassador.
At this point, Trump is just rubbing Cuban's nose in the pile of dogsh*t Cuban threw out there.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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Danimal said:




This aged well.
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Zeldin to head EPA
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akm91 said:

rgvag11 said:

Stefanik will be UN ambassador.
At this point, Trump is just rubbing Cuban's nose in the pile of dogsh*t Cuban threw out there.

What is the connection between Cuban and Stefanik?
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Lee Zeldin selected for EPA.

That makes two NY Reps in the cabinet.
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rgvag11 said:

Lee Zeldin selected for EPA.

That makes two NY Reps in the cabinet.
Zeldin is not currently in the House. He gave up his seat to run for NY governor.
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

outofstateaggie said:




Supposedly this is driving the DC insiders mad. They're used to providing public funding for the transition team and then have access to who is being considered. Not this time.


Driving them nuts because they can't leak anything about it. Freaking swamp creatures.
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the problem with so many of the quotes in the OP...

Trump was great at foreign policy -- that was his strength

his personality / tough guy image is perfect for foreign relations

but many of those advisors and secretaries don't want to put the U.S. first
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I was referring to Cuban's comment about Trumps aversion to strong, intelligent woman.
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C@LAg said:


She's worthless!
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The Kraken said:

oh no said:

Thank you, OP, for all the quotes and reminders of DC career politicians'' corrupt uniparty mindset. We can only hope Trump has learned enough about just how deep that swamp is because the alternative right now is the embrace and inhalation of full swamp ass.
Career politicians like Generals Kelly, McMasters and Mattis?
Career politician like former Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson?
Career politician like Mark Esper, retired Army LTC, Chief of Staff of the Heritage Foundation, Secretary of the Army and SECDEF?

If you don't understand that these positions are highly political...I don't know what to tell you other than, they are.
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BluHorseShu said:

rgvag11 said:

In a new interview from yesterday, Trump talked about several members of his former cabinet. Some quotes are below.

"John Kelly was a stupid person. He was a stiff."

"John Kelly was a man of rather low intelligence, who was a tough guy, who became a marshmallow. At the end, the guy couldn't even talk.

"Esper was a very weak person. Weak and ineffective."

"Mattis was a just guy who couldn't get it done."

"Milley was a total dope."

Starts at 7:30 mark https://wabcradio.com/episode/donald-trump-reviews-policy-with-john-catsimatidis-rita-cosby-10-24-24/

Some comments made by his first cabinet:

Bill Barr, his second Attorney General, said, "Someone who engaged in that kind of bullying about a process that is fundamental to our system and to our self-government shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office."

Gen James Mattis, his first Secretary of Defense, said, "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us."

Mark Esper, his second Secretary of Defense, said, "I think he's unfit for office. … He puts himself before country. His actions are all about him and not about the country. And then, of course, I believe he has integrity and character issues as well."

Gen Mark Milley, his chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, "We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution and we take an oath to the idea that is America and we're willing to die to protect it."

Rex Tillerson, his first Secretary of State, said, "His understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand the concept for why we're talking about this."

Gen HR McMaster, his second National Security Advisor, said, "We saw the absence of leadership, really anti-leadership, and what that can do to our country."

John Bolton, his third National Security Advisor, said, "I believe they (foreign leaders) think he is a laughing fool."

Gen John Kelly, his second Chief of Staff, said, "A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law. There is nothing more that can be said. God help us."

Mike Mulvaney, his third Chief of Staff, said, "I quit because I think he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that."

Betsy DeVos, his Secretary of Education, said, "When I saw what was happening on January 6 and didn't see the president step in and do what he could have done to turn it back or slow it down or really address the situation, it was just obvious to me that I couldn't continue."

Elaine Chao, his Secretary of Transportation, said, "At a particular point the events were such that it was impossible for me to continue, given my personal values and my philosophy.

If elected, how good do you think Trump's new cabinet will be? Do you think we will see similar comments from his second cabinet that we have seen from his first over the past seven years? My guess is we will see these behavioral trends continue because his managerial and leadership styles are so different than what Washington is use to.


I don't think it will be objectively better. What I expect, though, is that he only hires people that will never tell him "no". It will be chocked full of people who buy everything he's selling. So, if having only 'yes men' in your cabinet who will never disagree with you is better....then I imagine it will be a great cabinet. Madhura has this same method. I don't think a high sense of morals and duty to the constitution before the President will be prereqs. I would be nervous about this set up, but as far as getting things done that Trump wants, then this is the way to go.
Every.single.time.
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I get there's a political aspect but I don't consider flag rank military to be "career politicians".
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Sorry your man DeSantis lost, OP. Maybe he'll have a shot in 2032.
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rgvag11 said:

Lee Zeldin selected for EPA.

That makes two NY Reps in the cabinet.
Don't know much about Zeldin, but I am a fan due to his response to Gov. Hochul when she went after him for voting against the bogus Inflation Reduction Act. He posted on X...

Quote:

Being that it raises taxes, adds 87,000 new IRS agents, & spends hundreds of billions of dollars our country doesn't have on far-left policies our country can't afford, I'm not surprised you'd blindly endorse it
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The Kraken said:

I get there's a political aspect but I don't consider flag rank military to be "career politicians".


They're absolutely politicians. Nominated by the president and when a new president comes on, a lot of them have their careers ended because someone of another political party nominated them initially.


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rgvag11 said:



Rex Tillerson, his first Secretary of State, said, "His understanding of global events, his understanding of global history, his understanding of US history was really limited. It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand the concept for why we're talking about this."


This is what makes Trump perfect for the average American voter now a days. It's all about the vibes and tiktocs.

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Why is trump choosing someone like stefenik for a post and probably giving away a house seat?
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Dont like either of thise new yorkers, bad picks.
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