Jurist - see my post on the first page. Please share with folks you know that may need assistance.

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Those posting 'they had warning' need to stop typing. I'm in the middle of this. I drove 6 hours yesterday trying to get home to my wife (normally a 2 hour drive). The devastation is everywhere. No power, no water, highways completely gone. No way in, no way out. Nobody predicted this - nobody. There were no evacuation order - just some rather innocuous weather advisories. The speed with which the water moved was astounding. Washing out bridges - big and small. Destroying highways- state and federal. Washing away every route of escape and destroying countless homes and businesses. It's heartbreaking.

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Hey...are y'all Ok?

Worrying about y'all.

Thank you! I'll let them know. They want to stay at home if they can for as long as they can.

Buncombe County went 60-39 Biden. Biden won by 35K votes. The news coverage I've seen is people pissed off about FEMA response.

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Buncombe County went 60-39 Biden. Biden won by 35K votes. The news coverage I've seen is people pissed off about FEMA response.

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Who wouldn't be? Only thing I've really seen from FEMA is they took over cell towers (presumably to keep them online) but effed them all up so nobody has cell signal

Anybody have any verified information related to airport operations?

Has there been any discussion of evacuating people by air or ground by way of non-commercial transport?

Oooo I have Kentucky family who are UK grads... can't wait to let them loose. They're going to be PISSED

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Oooo I have Kentucky family who are UK grads... can't wait to let them loose. They're going to be PISSED

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I work with a group from Lexington...like a block from Rupp Arena. They are pissed. No way she makes it.

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TAMUallen said:

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Oooo I have Kentucky family who are UK grads... can't wait to let them loose. They're going to be PISSED

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I work with a group from Lexington...like a block from Rupp Arena. They are pissed. No way she makes it.

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Just wait till I tell my stepmom... she's a diehard cat who was born blue despite not going to UK. She is ruthless, she will tell everybody she encounters within 10 miles

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My brother lives in Kingsport. Said it isn't too terrible there but is worse further south.

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if there's any silver lining to this entire catastrophe, it's that Kingsport was spared, specifically with Eastman Chemical dodging a bullet…a blow to the plant would cripple the city…

my neighbor across the street moved his family into the house less than 2 weeks ago….almost 3 feet of water in his basement…we should all count our blessings at this time….

Nothing about this on wsj this morning.

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There are several private helicopter groups flying airlift type runs in and doing rescues. I've been seeing updates from a youtuber I like called Cleetus McFarland(real name is Garrett Mitchell), he has an md500 that was just rebuilt that they're utilizing...the damage is incredible.

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Ryan Hall and his weather group was just talking about airlifting in supplies.

There are teams with mules as well. Good people everywhere always rise to their moment.

If only there were airborne resources at nearby Fort Bragg that might be used to assist. I guess the 82nd Airplane gang doesn't exist any longer.

Don't forget. President George Bush called in the 82nd Airborne to help out New Orleans after Katrina. pic.twitter.com/j6hQ9ff16U

— Mark O'Neill ⚔ 🇳🇴 (@mro_mark) September 29, 2024

In the wake of Hurricane Helene, an Asheville, North Carolina resident reports chaos, citing pervasive looting and vandalism. Efforts by truckers to bring crucial supplies and medical aid were thwarted when their tires were slashed at rest stops. The resident warns of completely… pic.twitter.com/SJwQIjJecJ

— Smokahontas (@Smokahontas2024) September 30, 2024

Sadly this is typical, happens every time there is damage from severe weather. A lot of people thought it was just Katrina, I wish. Sad thing is the military has not changed anything and they often don't provide security for their trucks like they do overseas. They assume all Americans are good people

Most of the water from these rivers in Tennessee will eventually flow into the Tennessee River. The first dam along that river is Fort Loudon, which is just southwest of Knoxville. At the moment the TVA is sending 568,018 gallons of water per second over that dam.

ToddyHill said:

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Most of the water from these rivers in Tennessee will eventually flow into the Tennessee River. The first dam along that river is Fort Loudon, which is just southwest of Knoxville. At the moment the TVA is sending 568,018 gallons of water per second over that dam.

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They are predicting 636K gallons per second on Oct 2

They're going to need dozers, mixers, and lots asphalt, concrete, and steel to restore basic transportation. Once roads can be made passable, the critical items can get in and out, and other crews can get in to do work. Until they can move on the ground, there will be problems.

Thanks for that update. Our property fronts a creek that flows into the Tennessee. Presently, the water level is normal...but I've been wondering what might be in the next few days.

The TVA has a nice phone app that provides all sorts of useful info and graphs for all of the TVA managed lakes... including recent and predicted lake levels / discharge rate etc...

https://www.tva.com/environment/lake-levels/tva-lake-info-app

A friend of mine lives on Black Mountain, and his family just got word yesterday that he's safe. Before the storm, his property had regular visits from bears. They will have to be careful resupplying by air. Spilled food will likely become bear bait (assuming they made through the storm).

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ToddyHill said:

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Most of the water from these rivers in Tennessee will eventually flow into the Tennessee River. The first dam along that river is Fort Loudon, which is just southwest of Knoxville. At the moment the TVA is sending 568,018 gallons of water per second over that dam.

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They are predicting 636K gallons per second on Oct 2

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That's 86,000 CFS. I don't know the comparative size of the Tennessee River. Trinity River at lake Livingston was passing ~125,000 CFS last spring.

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That's 86,000 CFS. I don't know the comparative size of the Tennessee River. Trinity River at lake Livingston was passing ~125,000 CFS last spring.

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Wow...that's a lot of water!

Fort Loudon Dam is 4190 feet in length.

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That's 86,000 CFS. I don't know the comparative size of the Tennessee River. Trinity River at lake Livingston was passing ~125,000 CFS last spring.

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Wow...that's a lot of water!

Fort Loudon Dam is 4190 feet in length.

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It's maximum discharge capacity is 495,000 cfs so 86K isn't all that bad.

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ToddyHill said:

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That's 86,000 CFS. I don't know the comparative size of the Tennessee River. Trinity River at lake Livingston was passing ~125,000 CFS last spring.

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Wow...that's a lot of water!

Fort Loudon Dam is 4190 feet in length.

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It's maximum discharge capacity is 495,000 cfs so 86K isn't all that bad.

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Edit - didn't realize that the Fort Loudon Dam wasn't the Lake Livingston Dam, so please disregard my ignorance. Seems that they DID overdesign that dam

Electric utility in that area is working around the clock making repairs to transmission lines/substations. Once those are repaired they'll start to hammer out the distribution side.

Utility will not reconnect power to homes or businesses that have flooded until an electrical inspection has been done on the service.

There will be a massive need for electricians in those areas most affected.

Also, screw that UK professor who posted that hateful message. Thanks for outing yourself. I'll be in contact with staff/alumni!

Wow...good to know. Thank you.

Trying to reach one of my friends in Brevard NC, just south of Asheville.

No word yet. the devastation being shown on posts is staggering.


UPDATE: 5 pm CST My friend and his wife are ok (Thank God), no power, running off generator. Have food and supplies.

Home made it through storm ok, but had some big trees come down. Road to area he lives in is washed out.

One of his neighbors has Starlink. Don't expect power for 10-20 days. Have food and supplies.