He could have easily destroyed the last one by, after his first fact check, beginning rebuttals to her with "I've been fact checked, can you fact check that?" launching into his tirade, and asking for the answer to the fact check in the last 5 seconds.

When they dodge it, you just start keeping score on your pad.

You're either going to disarm them, make them do it to her, or get to condescendingly say "that's X times I've been checked and you haven't responded straight on hers once."

You either get results, or you're still right on the brand he wants.

This is what you call masterclass campaigning. Everyone just keep bashing this guy, going to look stupid come election day. You wont post for awhile or you'll act like you were for him the whole time, cannot wait.

Trump is winning, that debate he lost had little to no impact, so why go back in to the lions den where 3 people are attacking you? And people are finally realizing how unfair the media is towards the guy with what the moderators did in the debate. She won on style, he won on substance, and that is not what she needed. That is why she immediately called for more debates.

She is losing and now she is stuck, all she is doing is rallies, that will not get her the win. She is out there bad mouthing Trump, lying, antagonizing, and name calling (in some cases she sounds like a thug) that is not a good look and it will hurt her not help. She is trying to poke Trump in to doing and agreeing to something stupid. Good for him for not falling in the trap again.

So now she is going to look like an ass at rallies, and if she wants another debate, Trump will hold all the cards.

And Fox does not mean it will be a fair debate. Fox has ran some pretty bad debates toward Trump. Bret Baier, Megan Kelly and that weasel (i cannot remember his name) were some of the worst moderators for Trump. Each one of them cannot stand Trump and it showed.

Fact is, Trump is doing the right thing here. Keep doing what you were doing. Do the easy live interviews, town halls, press conferences and let Vance go in to the more hostile shows and environments. Vance is better with combative hosts

Like what he did today, introduced no tax on overtime. Keep announcing new ideas and gas lighting. How soon till Harris copies that idea?

backintexas2013 said:

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Didn't Kamala originally say she didn't want to debate again and pulled out of Fox debate?

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There was never a FOX debate, except in Trump's mind.

She refused the Sep 4th debate that was planned.

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backintexas2013 said:

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Didn't Kamala originally say she didn't want to debate again and pulled out of Fox debate?

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There was never a FOX debate, except in Trump's mind.

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Trump agrees to debate Kamala Harris on Fox News: The Trump-Kamala debate would be held Sept. 4 in Pennsylvania

Odd that Fox published this story about their debate that they were setting up for Sept 4.

The one Harris refused to do.

What happened to the Fox debate?

zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

Ag with kids said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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He made a deal with Fox wo any discussion with her campaign.

Be the same as her publishing a story today that she scheduled a debate on 9/24 on MSNBC.

Like was said earlier he thought he could push her into the FOX debate before the ABC debate Tuesday (and I suspect his ONLY debate) and her team didn't take the bait.

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This is what you call masterclass campaigning. Everyone just keep bashing this guy, going to look stupid come election day. You wont post for awhile or you'll act like you were for him the whole time, cannot wait.

Trump is winning, that debate he lost had little to no impact, so why go back in to the lions den where 3 people are attacking you? And people are finally realizing how unfair the media is towards the guy with what the moderators did in the debate. She won on style, he won on substance, and that is not what she needed. That is why she immediately called for more debates.

She is losing and now she is stuck, all she is doing is rallies, that will not get her the win. She is out there bad mouthing Trump, lying, antagonizing, and name calling (in some cases she sounds like a thug) that is not a good look and it will hurt her not help. She is trying to poke Trump in to doing and agreeing to something stupid. Good for him for not falling in the trap again.

So now she is going to look like an ass at rallies, and if she wants another debate, Trump will hold all the cards.

And Fox does not mean it will be a fair debate. Fox has ran some pretty bad debates toward Trump. Bret Baier, Megan Kelly and that weasel (i cannot remember his name) were some of the worst moderators for Trump. Each one of them cannot stand Trump and it showed.

Fact is, Trump is doing the right thing here. Keep doing what you were doing. Do the easy live interviews, town halls, press conferences and let Vance go in to the more hostile shows and environments. Vance is better with combative hosts

Like what he did today, introduced no tax on overtime. Keep announcing new ideas and gas lighting. How soon till Harris copies that idea?

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At some point he is going to float the idea of no income taxes. You watch.

I am waiting for no homework and two lunch periods to come next. None of these proposals to cut taxes wo cutting spending or offsetting with other income (tariffs won't pass either) have legs in Congress so it is a hope that it will move a few low information independent voters in swing states.

No use. The deck is stacked against him. He is not getting a fair debate any more than he is getting a fair trial in DC or NYC

Ag with kids said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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Harris is scared of FOX because she knows they will be tough but fair with her

same reason Trump doesn't want Bair or McCollom to moderate. they would be tough, but fair, and when he does what he does he won't have the excuse of horrible moderation like he does with ABC.

I'd rather have each candidate do a 1 hour interview on X. Debates through traditional networks are pointless.

I am glad Donald Trump is refusing to debate Kamala Harris because she won't agree to do it unless its for a TV or news network that favors her. Screw the liberal mainstream media!

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I am glad Donald Trump is refusing to debate Kamala Harris because she won't agree to do it unless its for a TV or news network that favors her. Screw the liberal mainstream media!

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Yep she's had ample opportunities to debate. If she can't have it her way she runs.

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So basically Trump looks like a coward because he got cooked in that debate. I'm on the fence if another debate would be a good idea for Trump anyway. You don't want an even worse image of him that close to the election. People will soon forget about how bad he was in this debate.

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But...but F16 told me he won and none of this happened.

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Funny, F26 said he lost horribly. The public and media said that he won and ABC News/MSM lost because the bias was too blatant.

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Smart move by Trump

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Agreed. Every time he has a national stage he loses support. He's a train wreck. He needs to hide.

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Trump is an alpha and alphas dont hide

Not his style

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Ag with kids said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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He made a deal with Fox wo any discussion with her campaign.

Be the same as her publishing a story today that she scheduled a debate on 9/24 on MSNBC.

Like was said earlier he thought he could push her into the FOX debate before the ABC debate Tuesday (and I suspect his ONLY debate) and her team didn't take the bait.

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No.

Fox, CBS, and ABC offered to put on debates.

Trump didn't "make a deal". He accepted the offers and said he would attend all 3 debates.

Harris only agreed to do the ABC debate. Presumably because she was too cowardly to do the others.

She REFUSED to do the Fox and CBS debates.

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Ag with kids said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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Harris is scared of FOX because she knows they will be tough but fair with her

same reason Trump doesn't want Bair or McCollom to moderate. they would be tough, but fair, and when he does what he does he won't have the excuse of horrible moderation like he does with ABC.

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That is a very accurate assessment...

Haha. That's funny. Thanks, I needed that.

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redseven94 said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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He made a deal with Fox wo any discussion with her campaign.

Be the same as her publishing a story today that she scheduled a debate on 9/24 on MSNBC.

Like was said earlier he thought he could push her into the FOX debate before the ABC debate Tuesday (and I suspect his ONLY debate) and her team didn't take the bait.

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No.

Fox, CBS, and ABC offered to put on debates.

Trump didn't "make a deal". He accepted the offers and said he would attend all 3 debates.

Harris only agreed to do the ABC debate. Presumably because she was too cowardly to do the others.

She REFUSED to do the Fox and CBS debates.

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The ABC debate was the original 2 debate deal between the two parties/campaigns be in June. Happened on same network, same format/rules and same date.

Fox and NBC were never agreed to by anyone on Dem side.

ABC debate bias explained.

They screwed Trump by allowing him to talk…probably why he won't do another debate. More Trump outside MAGA events = bad for Trump campaign.

redseven94 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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He made a deal with Fox wo any discussion with her campaign.

Be the same as her publishing a story today that she scheduled a debate on 9/24 on MSNBC.

Like was said earlier he thought he could push her into the FOX debate before the ABC debate Tuesday (and I suspect his ONLY debate) and her team didn't take the bait.

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No.

Fox, CBS, and ABC offered to put on debates.

Trump didn't "make a deal". He accepted the offers and said he would attend all 3 debates.

Harris only agreed to do the ABC debate. Presumably because she was too cowardly to do the others.

She REFUSED to do the Fox and CBS debates.

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The ABC debate was the original 2 debate deal between the two parties/campaigns be in June. Happened on same network, same format/rules and same date.

Fox and NBC were never agreed to by anyone on Dem side.

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OK, then shouldn't the criticism work both ways? If Trump is criticized for not agreeing to another debate shouldn't Kamala and the Dems be treated the same for their refusal of the two you list?

The notion that Trump is hiding, scared or a coward is nothing but TDS fantasy. He's been completely accessible: two debates on networks openly hostile to him one of those with heavily biased moderation, a long form presser at least once, interviews, the sit down with the black media group, podcasts, rallies, etc and took a bullet and come up with fists raised.

I think Trump has every right to decline to debate her a second time.

I just felt it was being misconstrued as her somehow backing out of an agreement.

Jason Miller yesterday AM said that he would be there at NBC debate in a couple weeks. They changed course over the day yesterday.

As I have said several time on this thread, I think it is a smart and strategic move by Trump Campaign. Another debate has more downside risk than upside opportunity especially since she is so under his skin.

We all know that once someone has pissed Trump off personally he won't be able to be disciplined and focus on his winning talking points (immigration and inflation). After Tuesday Kamala has made it personal for Trump. He is going to turn it up several notches moving forward.

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redseven94 said:

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zephyr88 said:

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What happened to the Fox debate?

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Harris refused to do it.

I guess she was scared of Fox.

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He made a deal with Fox wo any discussion with her campaign.

Be the same as her publishing a story today that she scheduled a debate on 9/24 on MSNBC.

Like was said earlier he thought he could push her into the FOX debate before the ABC debate Tuesday (and I suspect his ONLY debate) and her team didn't take the bait.

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No.

Fox, CBS, and ABC offered to put on debates.

Trump didn't "make a deal". He accepted the offers and said he would attend all 3 debates.

Harris only agreed to do the ABC debate. Presumably because she was too cowardly to do the others.

She REFUSED to do the Fox and CBS debates.

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The ABC debate was the original 2 debate deal between the two parties/campaigns be in June. Happened on same network, same format/rules and same date.

Fox and NBC were never agreed to by anyone on Dem side.

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That's what I said.

Did you not read my post?

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I think Trump has every right to decline to debate her a second time.

I just felt it was being misconstrued as her somehow backing out of an agreement.

Jason Miller yesterday AM said that he would be there at NBC debate in a couple weeks. They changed course over the day yesterday.

As I have said several time on this thread, I think it is a smart and strategic move by Trump Campaign. Another debate has more downside risk than upside opportunity especially since she is so under his skin.

We all know that once someone has pissed Trump off personally he won't be able to be disciplined and focus on his winning talking points (immigration and inflation). After Tuesday Kamala has made it personal for Trump. He is going to turn it up several notches moving forward.

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As you said, she never agreed to do another debate.

Trump is just giving her what she wanted.

Before she flip flopped and wanted something different.

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Kind of like all the libs on here refusing to debate policy.

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Well maybe they have a concept of a policy they could talk about? Harris has been the candidate for what? Two months? Trump has been claiming to have a go to healthcare plan since 2016. Why does she get blasted for being vague and Trump gets a pass for 8 years of lying about his non-existent plan? Remember repeal and replace? Replace with what? Or when Kayleigh McEnany gave Lesley Stahl a giant ring binder during a 60 Minutes interview with Trump which was supposed to be their health care plan? Turned out it contained nothing of the sort. Eight years. Now Trump claimed he "saved" Obamacare? Really? I seem to remember he was pretty furious with McCain when they failed to repeal it. And he gets a pass.

"But Trump" is a great argument.


Trump is a moron. So is Kamala. Doesn't mean that libs on here won't discuss policy. Any thread about Trump the libs come out in force. A tax discussion or a price gouging discussion no lib shows up. Probably because like Trump on Obamacare Kamala hasn't come up with a plan other than lying about both. They are the same candidate just on opposite sides.

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ABC debate bias explained.

They screwed Trump by allowing him to talk…probably why he won't do another debate. More Trump outside MAGA events = bad for Trump campaign.

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LOL. By "last word" they are including him responding to being "fact checked" relentlessly, and her never being pushed to provide a responsive or truthful answer. I'm a big critic of Trump but this is just lying through statistics.

Trump shouldn't do another debate. Honestly, he is often borderline unintelligible during extemporaneous speaking on complex subjects, so he should focus on podcasts and other "direct to voter" methods that play more to his strengths. Put another way, I can't imagine him doing anything during a debate that convinces a significant number of voters to pull the lever for him, but he can absolutely hurt himself.

Trump is 1 for 3 in debates. His only victory is when Bidens mind was so gone, Trump didn't have to say anything.

We tried to tell this to the magas with no avail. The worst part is, if he would have just prepared a little, he could have had so many good one liners ready It wouldn't have even been close.

Americans crave marxism.

No need to stroke us with another debate.

Give the people what they want.

He just told a reporter in California he may do another debate if he feels like it.

Have Kamala and Trump sit down live on Rogan for 3-hours.

No audience, no rules, just the three of 'em with young Jamie factchecking.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Have Kamala and Trump sit down live on Rogan for 3-hours.

No audience, no rules, just the three of 'em with young Jamie factchecking.

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Trump agreed to the terms of the ABC debate. It's time to start living in reality.

Farmer_J said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Have Kamala and Trump sit down live on Rogan for 3-hours.

No audience, no rules, just the three of 'em with young Jamie factchecking.

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Trump agreed to the terms of the ABC debate. It's time to start living in reality.

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Nowhere in the terms did the moderators say they would be fact checking one candidate and not the other because "people" felt bad about what happened to Biden in the first debate when he was put out to pasture.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/linsey-davis-debate-fact-checking-trump?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Afternoon%20Trending%20without%20Align&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News&tpcc=email-breaking

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ABC debate moderator admits why they targeted Trump with 'fact-checks' and notice how she words the confession

"People were concerned that statements were allowed to just hang and not [be] disputed by the candidate Biden, at the time, or the moderators," Davis told the Los Angeles Times.

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