Op, you've clearly thrown in the towel. You and a few others come here everyday with your doom and gloom. This race isn't remotely over and you need to quit believing the left media and biased polls.
Soooo...are we still "nuh-uh"-ing all of the polls?
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What is truly concerning is that we don't have any candidate who is the slightest bit Conservative.Tea Party said:Kamala is one of, if not the most leftist candidate we've ever had at the top of the ballot.Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
We should not be concerned about her but rather the fact that roughly half the voting populace is willing to vote for her. Our political ideologies are incompatible and that should be the center of the discussion, not whether the good guys will beat the bad guys in the polls or election.
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Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
Because almost all polls have her sweeping the swing states and ahead in every important metric.
Now Luntz is now hinting at the possibility of a Dem trifecta.
Or is this still just all propaganda? Fake news?
'The entire electoral pool has changed': Top GOP pollster says Harris may deliver Dem trifecta (msn.com)
You can worry about it if you want but I'd wait until after the convention and debate before I jumped off a building. Polls are highly suspect right now, no matter who they're showing ahead.
That would seem to apply to voters for the candidates in both major parties.Tom Fox said:
If these idiots want to vote for the leader of our nation based on purely feelz. I say giddy up!
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And the conspiracy widens…e=mc2 said:
Am I supposed to believe polls that oversample Democrats so much?
Personally, I think they fudge the numbers as a pretext to cheating so it's not as obvious on election day.
I don't know. Winning seems pretty important.Tea Party said:Kamala is one of, if not the most leftist candidate we've ever had at the top of the ballot.Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
We should not be concerned about her but rather the fact that roughly half the voting populace is willing to vote for her. Our political ideologies are incompatible and that should be the center of the discussion, not whether the good guys will beat the bad guys in the polls or election.
Maybe stop playing into the sentiment the dems and media literally baited R's into with the candidate switch.Hungry Ojos said:
I'm not seeking credibility.
I'm seeking LITERALLY ANY reason why I should stay optimistic.
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I wouldn't look at the polls unless you want to follow Rasmussen. You should dig into the voter registration data.
The trend line is positive for Republicans. You can follow the Google Drive data update monthly in the linked tweet.
All Party Voter Registration Changes: November 2020 - July 2024.
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The trend line is positive for Republicans. You can follow the Google Drive data update monthly in the linked tweet.
What conspiracy? There have been numerous articles about polls oversampling dems since 2015.
Quick proof of this is the fact that Hilary was 8 or 9 points ahead of Trump in the polls but lost the 2016 election.
Quick proof of this is the fact that Hilary was 8 or 9 points ahead of Trump in the polls but lost the 2016 election.
It's concerning. If the msm continues to cheerlead instead of calling out Kamala for hiding we may be in real trouble. She's not going to have something like Biden's debate debacle happen and force everyone to realize she's incompetent. If her record over the last few years doesn't dampen Dem enthusiasm, I don't know what will.
But there's still time. Maybe Trump can crush her in a debate, assuming she musters the courage to show up for one.
But there's still time. Maybe Trump can crush her in a debate, assuming she musters the courage to show up for one.
Much depends on how big of a crap show the DNC convention turns into. The Isaeli conflict has split the Dem base, much like the Vietnam War did in 1968. The vibes are feeling the same, minus the assassinations of MLK and RFK.93MarineHorn said:
It's concerning. If the msm continues to cheerlead instead of calling out Kamala for hiding we may be in real trouble. She's not going to have something like Biden's debate debacle happen and force everyone to realize she's incompetent. If her record over the last few years doesn't dampen Dem enthusiasm, I don't know what will.
But there's still time. Maybe Trump can crush her in a debate, assuming she musters the courage to show up for one.
AZ ballot cleanup and registration is also trending very positively.
https://recorder.maricopa.gov/Elections/VoterRegistration/redirect_new.aspx?view=congressional
Maricopa County updates voter registration daily. Republicans now have a 161, 298 voter lead....which is way more than Biden "won" the state by.
The state lead is almost 260,000.00 Rs.
https://recorder.maricopa.gov/Elections/VoterRegistration/redirect_new.aspx?view=congressional
Maricopa County updates voter registration daily. Republicans now have a 161, 298 voter lead....which is way more than Biden "won" the state by.
The state lead is almost 260,000.00 Rs.
Men and wigs, jeez.
Scott Pressler is camped out in PA working to register Rs statewide. Seems to be working.
https://www.newsweek.com/voter-registration-democrats-republicans-2024-election-1938624
The issue with polling is the pollsters (heavily leaning left) use them to shapen opinion and dampen enthusiasm. They way oversample Ds to show Kamala in the race. Another "benefit" to this is it makes a steal more optically possible...i.e., "see the votes match the polls".
https://www.newsweek.com/voter-registration-democrats-republicans-2024-election-1938624
The issue with polling is the pollsters (heavily leaning left) use them to shapen opinion and dampen enthusiasm. They way oversample Ds to show Kamala in the race. Another "benefit" to this is it makes a steal more optically possible...i.e., "see the votes match the polls".
You assume people are not campaigning against her being as far left as she is. It is put out there often but people choose to not see it or care about it.javajaws said:That would be great to campaign against if most of this country voted based on policy. But they don't. They vote based on the letter next to their name and for a significant percent of us they vote on their personal feelings about a candidate. Actual policy takes a backseat to those two.Tea Party said:Kamala is one of, if not the most leftist candidate we've ever had at the top of the ballot.Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
We should not be concerned about her but rather the fact that roughly half the voting populace is willing to vote for her. Our political ideologies are incompatible and that should be the center of the discussion, not whether the good guys will beat the bad guys in the polls or election.
The difference is her voters do not care. They are either happy with it, too dumb to understand the consequences of her leftist ideology, or apathetic and only vote for her because either the D or "not Trump".
If we can't shock the voters awake to the err of their ways, then we need to go our own way so they don't drag us down. Regards less of what the polls say.
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2016: The poll sampling got out of hand as they got complacent with 8 years of Obama with Hillary primed to take over.
The Trump wave caught them flat footed. Not enough physical fake ballots to match any dominion skew that they could of ordered.
2020: "Were gonna need get a bigger boat" 81m
The Trump wave caught them flat footed. Not enough physical fake ballots to match any dominion skew that they could of ordered.
2020: "Were gonna need get a bigger boat" 81m
I think you are falling for exactly what the press wants you to fall for. They are hiding Kamala from the public, scrubbing anything negative they may have reported about her from the past, while running a raft of stories about how great her numbers look and how Rs should be panicking. Yet there is actually very little in the way of real quality polling to base any of that on. As soon as she is forced to eventually go of script and talk without a teleprompter, the wheels are going to come off. There is a reason she was at the very bottom of the very crowded dem primary in 2020. She was not a good candidate then, and nothing that has happened in the last 4 years has made her a better one.Hungry Ojos said:I guess maybe I'm trying to start a groundswell...a movement if you will, to get everyone on our side to stop burying our heads in the sand and start sounding the alarms. This is NOT looking good and I'm not sure what can be done to try to salvage a win, but completely ignoring all of the warning signs doesn't seem reasonable.aggiedent said:Hungry Ojos said:
But it seems like EVERY poll is in her favor.
All of them.
Almost 100%
Is it still reasonable in the face of near unanimous polling to still just conclude "nuh-uh"?
1. Polls have been wrong. 2016……yes?
2. There's really nothing we can do about it. Are you just trying to get posters to admit there's a problem?? Not sure I see a purpose in that. But yes, I'd rather be on the right side of polling, because they are "usually" right.
He had this thing all but won after the assassination attempt, but, in typical Trump fashion, has blown it. We make fun of Harris hiding in the basement, but God I wish Trump would just do the same. Every time he talks, he loses votes.
They are doing everything they can to discourage Rs and get them sour on the election, and people like you are taking the bait and running with it.
Thank goodness for Social Media as the MSM likely won't even mention protests. That will change if there is violence.aggiehawg said:Much depends on how big of a crap show the DNC convention turns into. The Isaeli conflict has split the Dem base, much like the Vietnam War did in 1968. The vibes are feeling the same, minus the assassinations of MLK and RFK.93MarineHorn said:
It's concerning. If the msm continues to cheerlead instead of calling out Kamala for hiding we may be in real trouble. She's not going to have something like Biden's debate debacle happen and force everyone to realize she's incompetent. If her record over the last few years doesn't dampen Dem enthusiasm, I don't know what will.
But there's still time. Maybe Trump can crush her in a debate, assuming she musters the courage to show up for one.
I don't doubt this but then why don't Republican's do the same?James Forsyth said:
Scott Pressler is camped out in PA working to register Rs statewide. Seems to be working.
https://www.newsweek.com/voter-registration-democrats-republicans-2024-election-1938624
The issue with polling is the pollsters (heavily leaning left) use them to shapen opinion and dampen enthusiasm. They way oversample Ds to show Kamala in the race. Another "benefit" to this is it makes a steal more optically possible...i.e., "see the votes match the polls".
Ignore the polls and vote. If enough of our country votes to install communists in the highest offices, then that's just where we are as a nation, and we'll have to deal with it going forward. But worrying about it isn't going to help anything.
And discouraged Rs are not going to vote, is that the idea? It could have the opposite effect of, oh crap I better vote or we get Kamala.
Is there a pollster who came close on the battleground states in 2016 and 2020 showing Kamala running away with this election? Most people recognize that the majority of pollsters are unable or unwilling to quantify Trump's Election Day support.
What do you mean? Republicans are doing this. It's a 50-state effort. Lara Trump and the RNC are partnering with Pressler's org.javajaws said:I don't doubt this but then why don't Republican's do the same?James Forsyth said:
Scott Pressler is camped out in PA working to register Rs statewide. Seems to be working.
https://www.newsweek.com/voter-registration-democrats-republicans-2024-election-1938624
The issue with polling is the pollsters (heavily leaning left) use them to shapen opinion and dampen enthusiasm. They way oversample Ds to show Kamala in the race. Another "benefit" to this is it makes a steal more optically possible...i.e., "see the votes match the polls".
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/donald-trump-campaign-force-47-6f52b817
His campaign rally in Montana helped push the R Senate candidate (Sheehy) ahead and raised a bunch of money for him. Tester (D Senator) will likely lose. That's a positive day's work.zb008 said:
Trump has a serious chance of losing to Dollar Tree Obama according to every credible poll. Thankfully, he had a campaign rally in Montana, called Joe Rogan out on Truth Social, and is now firing his advisors that he doesn't listen to anyway. Surely that will help turn the tide in his favor.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/04/politics/trump-mail-in-early-voting/index.htmlrwpag71 said:
Is there a pollster who came close on the battleground states in 2016 and 2020 showing Kamala running away with this election? Most people recognize that the majority of pollsters are unable or unwilling to quantify Trump's Election Day support.
I think one usually unremarked on change from Trump's campaign this time is pushing early and mail-in voting and not just counting on a game day "red wave".
Trump's presidency was one of the most conservative of my lifetime. Prove me wrong.eric76 said:What is truly concerning is that we don't have any candidate who is the slightest bit Conservative.Tea Party said:Kamala is one of, if not the most leftist candidate we've ever had at the top of the ballot.Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
We should not be concerned about her but rather the fact that roughly half the voting populace is willing to vote for her. Our political ideologies are incompatible and that should be the center of the discussion, not whether the good guys will beat the bad guys in the polls or election.
Maybe you are playing into the hands of some sort of simple psyop.Hungry Ojos said:
But it seems like EVERY poll is in her favor.
All of them.
Almost 100%
Is it still reasonable in the face of near unanimous polling to still just conclude "nuh-uh"?
We used to have a media we could trust but thats been gone for 20 years. The MSM is owned by the d'Rats. If I was them I'd run false or friendly polling all day long just to get my conservative opposition demoralized
But watch this. If they overplay their hand they'll get their team too complacent. So I bet you there will be a narrative giving Trump a bump just to keep team Libtard from being complacent but not enough to get you confident.
Its a delicate game. The key is DONT play it.
A. Initial excitement gives a bump. (Because Dem voters are too stupid to punish the DNC for lying to them and subverting their primary)
B. We're getting flooded with headlines based on shaping polls. They are trying hard to artificially popularize Harris & have no interest in publishing accurate descriptive polls.
C. The Dems have a decade invested in vilifying Trump, so "Blue" has a floor of brainwashed ballot punchers. Just as "Red" has rural states who will always vote against these commies.
D. It's about swing state mechanics and turnout.
E. Lots will happen in the next several months.
B. We're getting flooded with headlines based on shaping polls. They are trying hard to artificially popularize Harris & have no interest in publishing accurate descriptive polls.
C. The Dems have a decade invested in vilifying Trump, so "Blue" has a floor of brainwashed ballot punchers. Just as "Red" has rural states who will always vote against these commies.
D. It's about swing state mechanics and turnout.
E. Lots will happen in the next several months.
Hungry Ojos said:
Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?
Because almost all polls have her sweeping the swing states and ahead in every important metric.
Now Luntz is now hinting at the possibility of a Dem trifecta.
Or is this still just all propaganda? Fake news?
'The entire electoral pool has changed': Top GOP pollster says Harris may deliver Dem trifecta (msn.com)
Fake. Does this really need to be pointed out for you? It's literally fake news.
" This is NOT looking good and I'm not sure what can be done to try to salvage a win, but completely ignoring all of the warning signs doesn't seem reasonable."
There's nothing you or I could do now to change anything. Trump is Trump………….even his advisors can't control him. Can't take a play out of the Dems playbook and bring somebody off the bench for the 4th quarter.
If……….if he loses………we can only blame ourselves for making a bad choice in the primary. That's the extent of things.
There's nothing you or I could do now to change anything. Trump is Trump………….even his advisors can't control him. Can't take a play out of the Dems playbook and bring somebody off the bench for the 4th quarter.
If……….if he loses………we can only blame ourselves for making a bad choice in the primary. That's the extent of things.
They are less concerned about whether the Rs vote and more concerned with whether they are donating to the campaigns and PACs 3 months before the election.BQ78 said:
And discouraged Rs are not going to vote, is that the idea? It could have the opposite effect of, oh crap I better vote or we get Kamala.
Good lord these threads are so insufferable keep your crying to the muh polls thread
MsDoubleD81 said:
I've been worried since they kicked Joe out and she raised $300 million in a day. BAS.
Raised that was money already there held out until Joe left ?
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