Soooo...are we still "nuh-uh"-ing all of the polls?

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girlfriend_experience
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James Forsyth said:

zb008 said:

Trump has a serious chance of losing to Dollar Tree Obama according to every credible poll. Thankfully, he had a campaign rally in Montana, called Joe Rogan out on Truth Social, and is now firing his advisors that he doesn't listen to anyway. Surely that will help turn the tide in his favor.
His campaign rally in Montana helped push the R Senate candidate (Sheehy) ahead and raised a bunch of money for him. Tester (D Senator) will likely lose. That's a positive day's work.


How dare you post anything positive about trump
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Edited to add... it seems the mainstream media/Google have wiped a lot of the results off the web like the graphic below. I remember seeing tons of them, but can barely find any now. Some of the ones that I did find were from Washington post and had a note saying they had been retroactively removed because Trump tweeted them.


Trump may have lost 2020, but the polls were still way off favoring Biden. The MSM uses the polls as propaganda.

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https://fortune.com/2020/12/01/polling-fivethirtyeight-nate-silver-2020-election-errors/
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eric76 said:

Tom Fox said:

If these idiots want to vote for the leader of our nation based on purely feelz. I say giddy up!
That would seem to apply to voters for the candidates in both major parties.
You could have made that argument for Trump in 2016, but after his Presidency, Trump was a legitimately good president outside of the 2A stuff with bump stocks and spending. And they have all sucked at spending. I can honestly say that the Trump Presidency was if not the best, then the second best in my lifetime.

I was genuinely concerned about Trump before he won in 2016. But now that he is a known commodity, a person can make strong policy arguments that Trump would be a good president and that he has a proven track record of doing so.

Reagan was horrible on immigration and the second amendment. But he is the only other President outside of Trump that would say was good during my lifetime.

And by any metric, he is better than Cackles.
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Money or votes I sort of see it the same way, oh my gosh we are losing better send Winred more money to get the message out to the insane voters.
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I think Trump will lose. Having said that, I would've bet everything I owned that he was going to lose against Hillary Clinton too. We all know how that worked out.

There's no point worrying about it.
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RGLAG85
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93MarineHorn said:

It's concerning. If the msm continues to cheerlead instead of calling out Kamala for hiding we may be in real trouble. She's not going to have something like Biden's debate debacle happen and force everyone to realize she's incompetent. If her record over the last few years doesn't dampen Dem enthusiasm, I don't know what will.

But there's still time. Maybe Trump can crush her in a debate, assuming she musters the courage to show up for one.
He just needs to constantly point out her crappy policies and record on issues, that she's responsible for the current situation and have a positive message about how he's going to change it. Think about trying to argue with your wife, is a losing proposition and she'll play the victim. Let her attack you and seem petty and bitter. If he tries to attack her character, which is hugely flawed, or her lack of intelligence, he'll be perceived as a bully. It's barely a winnable situation debating a woman when your a man and you have to walk a thin tightrope.
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James Forsyth said:

javajaws said:

James Forsyth said:

Scott Pressler is camped out in PA working to register Rs statewide. Seems to be working.

https://www.newsweek.com/voter-registration-democrats-republicans-2024-election-1938624

The issue with polling is the pollsters (heavily leaning left) use them to shapen opinion and dampen enthusiasm. They way oversample Ds to show Kamala in the race. Another "benefit" to this is it makes a steal more optically possible...i.e., "see the votes match the polls".

I don't doubt this but then why don't Republican's do the same?
What do you mean? Republicans are doing this. It's a 50-state effort. Lara Trump and the RNC are partnering with Pressler's org.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/donald-trump-campaign-force-47-6f52b817

My point was that your argument is that pollsters lean left (which I don't disagree with). Republicans should create as many biased pollsters for the right as there are for the left so that they offset each other. Since you perceive there is still a left leaning bias in polling then apparently Republicans are still not doing enough.
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PatriotAg02 said:

Hungry Ojos said:

Is there any point where we should start becoming concerned?

Because almost all polls have her sweeping the swing states and ahead in every important metric.

Now Luntz is now hinting at the possibility of a Dem trifecta.

Or is this still just all propaganda? Fake news?

'The entire electoral pool has changed': Top GOP pollster says Harris may deliver Dem trifecta (msn.com)


Fake. Does this really need to be pointed out for you? It's literally fake news.

Here was ol Frank just four years ago. But NOW he has it all figured out.
Conservative pollster Frank Luntz believes the 2020 election results which again diverged from forecasts of how voters would behave could signal the end for people like him. "The political polling profession is done," Luntz told Axios. "It is devastating for my industry."
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This would happen regardless of who the Republicans put up. At this point I almost hope this country burns itself to the ground. Ammo up and enjoy the ride.

Retire early and stop working your ass into the ground to fund this clown show.
TAMU1990
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That's what you get with D+6 and D+8 polls - junk
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$300 million is $300 million regardless of where it came from. Gave them huge momentum. I think the Dems will have a good August with the convention bump. I wish Trump would just focus on what he's going to do instead of the constant bashing and name calling.
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BQ78 said:

Money or votes I sort of see it the same way, oh my gosh we are losing better send Winred more money to get the message out to the insane voters.
The votes on Election Day are set in the audience they are targeting. They know if you are paying attention enough to be discouraged, you were likely to vote for Trump anyway. But if they can make you feel it is hopeless 3 months out, they hope to keep you from "wasting money" on donations that could actually change the outcome in key places where it could be usefully spent.
 
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