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ApachePilot said:

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It's easy to blame Trump. He is not a politician nor wants to be one. He just says what he thinks. But if anyone is to blame it's the deep state and media. Both are once again working overtime to skew the narrative. It doesn't matter who was running, this anti-American block would misrepresent the facts. While protecting the dem. Sadly we live in a world of sound bites and folks that just read headlines. Hard to over come disinformation when people are purposely stupid.

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This is a silly take. Trump has been in politics for 9 years now. He is a politician.

And truly only Trump could almost be assassinated, take that epic picture while yelling fight, and a month later have no momentum and be losing in the polls.

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This needs to be qualified. If this is 2000, you don't have mainstream media openly questioning whether he was hit by some mystery piece of shattered glass. You would actually HAVE media members questioning Kamala on her record and digging up dirt on Walz.

I don't care what anyone says, the people who are most to blame for the current state of our country are the mainstream media who have spent the last 8 years trying to undermine Trump and any Republican they think may actually help Trump. They have refused to be objective and have no ethics. It is disgusting

Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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redseven94 said:

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Tom Fox said:

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redseven94 said:

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You do understand that inflation is a lagging not a leading economic indicator right? Biden is to blame for the second stimulus package which definitely made it worse.

Inflation in 1981 was 9%. No of us blame that on Reagan (especially since the FY1981 budget was passed in 1980)

I am telling you to true conservatism (tea party) isn't alive in either ruling majority. The numbers are the numbers.

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So you think that Trump and Harris will have the same impact on the economy? Inflation? Taxation? Entitlement spending?

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I don't know. I was talking inflation. Economy is far more than inflation (GFP growth, unemployment, capital investment, business starts etc).

I think Trump would do better for economic growth and profits (stock market) bc he would remove government regulations and push for reductions in interest rates. Also think he could increase the deficit with spending/tax cuts.

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The only thing that matters is reigning in spending to reduce debt. 30T. 1T annually.

99% of this election is propaganda bs. It doesn't matter. If we don't get spending under control, it won't matter.

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This times 1000000000000

We really don't have any good choices. But I have to believe that the Republicans still house the people that understand this. But I have zero faith they will do anything about it

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

I wonder if Kamala will blow anything?

JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

Explain to me how the Tammany Hall style vote generating political machines from Chicago, Minneapolis et cetera were able to coerce the Republican governors/ Secretaries of State/Legislatures from Arizona and Georgia to steal the election and gift it to Biden? Still haven't heard a coherent answer, aside from space lasers...

Will Donald Trump Blow Another Election? Maybe

I am positive Kamala Harris has blown a few

Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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I was fine with DeSantis but it shouldn't matter who the nominee is if they are not socialist, they should easily win.

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I don't want to win with a moderate. I would rather lose and deliver the message to those idiots voting for economic pain because of feelz.

If we can't win on policy, then so be it.

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Yeah well unfortunately that message gets delivered to ALL of us when those clowns win. But die on that hill if you must

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Explain to me how the Tammany Hall style vote generating political machines from Chicago, Minneapolis et cetera were able to coerce the Republican governors/ Secretaries of State/Legislatures from Arizona and Georgia to steal the election and gift it to Biden? Still haven't heard a coherent answer, aside from space lasers...

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I can't speak for other states, but Arizona Republicans in office, many of them are RINO backstabbing bastages like John McCain was. They worship that old RINO fence rider, and of course, Trump tarnished their hero McCain.. One of the RINOs, the mayor of Mesa which used to be the most conservative city in the Phoenix metro, was at Kamala's rally tonight in Phoenix speaking for Kamala and telling Republicans not to vote for Trump...

Doug Doucey, the Republican Governor here in 2020 until 2022 had a majority Republican congress and could have fixed a lot of the election issues with new laws and didn't fix crap. They could have signed a law to require an extra form of identification on mail in ballots like the last 4 of SSN, instead they put that to a vote on the 2022 election ballots and it didnt pass in the election so it never got put into law.

There are so many DEMs here, and the Republicans here are always trying not to piss them off, and they make stupid decisions and never get anything in return from the DEMs. Just take a total beating.

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dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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Even Haley runs circles around Trump in terms of electability for a general election. The reality is that Trump's crassness makes it an uphill climb for him to win a general election, even against lunatics like Harris. His MAGA base likes his crass nature, but the rest of the country does not.

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Just wait until Donald Trump, Jr. takes the baton from Dad in 2028 and MAGA has their new Trump to follow for decades ahead…

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AGROAg88 said:

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Explain to me how the Tammany Hall style vote generating political machines from Chicago, Minneapolis et cetera were able to coerce the Republican governors/ Secretaries of State/Legislatures from Arizona and Georgia to steal the election and gift it to Biden? Still haven't heard a coherent answer, aside from space lasers...

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I can't speak for other states, but Arizona Republicans in office, many of them are RINO backstabbing bastages like John McCain was. They worship that old RINO fence rider, and of course, Trump tarnished their hero McCain.. One of the RINOs, the mayor of Mesa which used to be the most conservative city in the Phoenix metro, was at Kamala's rally tonight in Phoenix speaking for Kamala and telling Republicans not to vote for Trump...

Doug Doucey, the Republican Governor here in 2020 until 2022 had a majority Republican congress and could have fixed a lot of the election issues with new laws and didn't fix crap. They could have signed a law to require an extra form of identification on mail in ballots like the last 4 of SSN, instead they put that to a vote on the 2022 election ballots and it didnt pass in the election so it never got put into law.

There are so many DEMs here, and the Republicans here are always trying not to piss them off, and they make stupid decisions and never get anything in return from the DEMs. Just take a total beating.

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The good ol' elite country club republicans worming their way through life screwing everyone in the process.

It isnt about anyone's personality to me. Its all about the positions each of the two candidates have on the issues and who has the experience to lead this country. Why are Americans so stupid that they would sacrifice their country's future over which candidate has a more likeable or unlikeable personality? Its astounding.

If Trump loses, so be it. It means the majority of the country isnt conservative. While I can accept that, I cant accept that anyone whos a conservative or even moderately conservative (RINO) would choose to pay the heavy, heavy price if they elect to sit on the sidelines for this one.

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zb008 said:

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dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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Even Haley runs circles around Trump in terms of electability for a general election. The reality is that Trump's crassness makes it an uphill climb for him to win a general election, even against lunatics like Harris. His MAGA base likes his crass nature, but the rest of the country does not.

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Just wait until Donald Trump, Jr. takes the baton from Dad in 2028 and MAGA has their new Trump to follow for decades ahead…

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I just threw up a little in my mouth.

JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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Most likely he will, but of course his ardent followers will blame it solely on fraud, rather than the fact he is a crappy candidate with sky high negatives.

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Not sure about everyone else, but I'm kinda tired of this broad, sand-bagging, bullcrap from you. If there are blatant anomalies let's discuss it. Fraud occurs. If it occurs at such a level that there is a ground swell of support to investigate, lets discuss it. All you're doing is trying to get everyone to shut-up if fraud shows up in this election. Take your sand-bagging censorship elsewhere.

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Rapier108 said:

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Most likely he will, but of course his ardent followers will blame it solely on fraud, rather than the fact he is a crappy candidate with sky high negatives.

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Not sure about everyone else, but I'm kinda tired of this broad, sand-bagging, bullcrap from you. If there are blatant anomalies let's discuss it. Fraud occurs. If it occurs at such a level that there is a ground swell of support to investigate, let's discuss it. All you're doing is trying to get everyone to shut-up if fraud shows up in this election. Take your sand-bagging censorship elsewhere.

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He didn't say anything that isn't true.

zb008 said:

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dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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Even Haley runs circles around Trump in terms of electability for a general election. The reality is that Trump's crassness makes it an uphill climb for him to win a general election, even against lunatics like Harris. His MAGA base likes his crass nature, but the rest of the country does not.

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Then you have a process to pick someone else. It's called the primary. Beat him or stfu.

Tom Fox said:

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zb008 said:

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dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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Even Haley runs circles around Trump in terms of electability for a general election. The reality is that Trump's crassness makes it an uphill climb for him to win a general election, even against lunatics like Harris. His MAGA base likes his crass nature, but the rest of the country does not.

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Then you have a process to pick someone else. It's called the primary. Beat him or stfu.

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100%. Opportunities were there to vote in Haley. Haley voters evaporated- poof

If republicans don't vote, it's all on them when we have Harris in office

Jeeper79 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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And those weak people are to blame for the failure of the US along with the degenerate left.

bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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And those weak people are to blame for the failure of the US along with the degenerate left.

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Or just maybe there are independents that are willing to vote for Rs that aren't Trump and MAGA should figure that out instead of doubling down.

bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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And those weak people are to blame for the failure of the US along with the degenerate left.

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Trump's version of the Republican Party strays away from a lot of what the Party's ideology has been rooted in for much of its existence. I think a lot of Republican voters feel that the Republican Party left them. He's still much better than Harris in my opinion, but I can see why some Republican voters don't see him as a real Republican.

JWinTX said:

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zb008 said:

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dixichkn said:

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Tom Fox said:

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Charisma should be irrelevant. It's what they support that actually matters.

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Theoretically, yes. But charisma 100% matters to the MAGAs. Remember how RDS couldn't be a viable candidate because he had a weird smile and supposedly "wore lifts"? Those were crucial issues in January.

We're gonna f***ing blow this thing because of garbage like that

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Even Haley runs circles around Trump in terms of electability for a general election. The reality is that Trump's crassness makes it an uphill climb for him to win a general election, even against lunatics like Harris. His MAGA base likes his crass nature, but the rest of the country does not.

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Just wait until Donald Trump, Jr. takes the baton from Dad in 2028 and MAGA has their new Trump to follow for decades ahead…

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I'd rather have Eric, I think Don Jr. is way less likeable than his dad even though he has the same ideals...Eric would kick some butt with his personality...

Or how about maybe let's nominate an actual experienced conservative politician with actual conservative skins on the wall?

Why can't we get out of our own way?

zb008 said:

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bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

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When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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And those weak people are to blame for the failure of the US along with the degenerate left.

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Trump's version of the Republican Party strays away from a lot of what the Party's ideology has been rooted in for much of its existence. I think a lot of Republican voters feel that the Republican Party left them. He's still much better than Harris in my opinion, but I can see why some Republican voters don't see him as a real Republican.

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And if they don't see him as better than Harris just like you do, they are not actually Republicans.

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Because Trump is who he is, there is a such a defined and unbreakable cap on his support. His support tends to be more enthusiastic, but the cap on it is also more defined that probably any other President in U.S. history.

Because of this, he doesn't have a large margin of error to play around with. It requires a certain amount of discipline. Discipline is not his thing. Therefore, he's just not a very good candidate electorally speaking. He never was. He just happened to go up against one of the most repugnant politicians in America.

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Great points.

That has been my concern is that people discount how much Trumps success was a product of the "hate Hillary" factor.

Once she was out Trump at the top of party was a drag in 2018, 2020 AND 2022.

All candidates are flawed candidates but it is a binary choice. The people in the middle that swing election often go, not with policy, with who they see as the "lesser of two evils". Trump loses that measure for moderates to almost everyone.

Kamala has plenty of flaws to campaign against but if she stays disciplined and scripted and Trump continues to spout out "stream of consciousness" this one might be tough for us too.

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Another thing people forget is that a lot of people assumed Trump was running nothing more than a vanity campaign. They thought it was a joke. A lot of media outlets gave him air time - in a positive light - because they didn't think his campaign was real or that he had a chance to win.

My wife used to turn the TV to the "Today" show while she got ready for work. During the election season, they had Trump on at least once a week checking in on the campaign trail and yukking it up. Newspapers kept his campaign on the front page. TV news had him on quite a bit, too, following his campaign. But they didn't take him seriously and gave him plenty of space to reach the public. Trump will never get that kind of favorable treatment in the news again.

Choice 1: liberal, socialists wanted to destroy America in all facets
Choice 2: America first
No brainer.

zb008 said:

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bobbranco said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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Predseven94 said:

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JamesE4 said:

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redseven94 said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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mazzag said:

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Y'all know they stole 2020? Why does this opinion piece matter?

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The same way they stole the popular vote in 2016 and Cruz stole Iowa.

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Also we're so dumb they stole it from Trump in 2020 but allowed the GOP to gain 13 seats in the house.

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Tell me you know nothing about congressional elections compared to presidential elections without telling me

---

When tthat tired and lazy retort is retired it will be a good day.

Same day. Same ballot. Same election rules.

Please enlighten me on the structural dynamics that I don't understand.

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Much harder to cheat in dozens of red districts for Congress compared to vote dumping in large blue cities that you control

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A ballot is a ballot. If it's a cheating ballot to vote D instead of Trump, surely they voted D down ballot, too. And so we'd see more D winners relative to Rs. But we don't. This is a Trump thing. People that are electing Rs down ballot are voting against Trump or leaving it blank.

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And those weak people are to blame for the failure of the US along with the degenerate left.

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Trump's version of the Republican Party strays away from a lot of what the Party's ideology has been rooted in for much of its existence. I think a lot of Republican voters feel that the Republican Party left them. He's still much better than Harris in my opinion, but I can see why some Republican voters don't see him as a real Republican.

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Yes. The likes of Cheney, Romney, Kinzinger, McCain, the Bush family, Bush staffers, Cornyn, Lankford, et al variety are soft, weak and duplicitous. Such a great bunch that are not team players willing to defend their party.

dixichkn said:

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Or how about maybe let's nominate an actual experienced conservative politician with actual conservative skins on the wall?

Why can't we get out of our own way?

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The journalists see themselves as the Pied Piper. Can we change the liberal bent of national press that wants to brainwash the electorate?