girlfriend_experience said:

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I know you are trolling but Harris has the whole media apparatus behind her that is hard to overcome

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You will need to add in the weak TDS'd mental midgets.

BuddysBud said:

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How does Trump use the situation to unite when half the country has been programmed to hate?

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Be a bigger person. But he's incapable of doing that.

bobbranco said:

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girlfriend_experience said:

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I know you are trolling but Harris has the whole media apparatus behind her that is hard to overcome

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You will need to add in the weak TDS'd mental midgets.

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I won't be happy if Kamala wins, but seeing you and several others back here after the election would be a silver lining.

It's easy to blame Trump. He is not a politician nor wants to be one. He just says what he thinks. But if anyone is to blame it's the deep state and media. Both are once again working overtime to skew the narrative. It doesn't matter who was running, this anti-American block would misrepresent the facts. While protecting the dem. Sadly we live in a world of sound bites and folks that just read headlines. Hard to over come disinformation when people are purposely stupid.

Pumpkinhead said:

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I read when CNN got new ownership a couple years or so back and that ownership tried to move their news to be just a bit more moderate, they started LOSING viewers and money. Moderate, balanced bipartisan debate and news sources doesn't seem to be what many actually people want to follow. So this is where our culture now is.

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CNN's demise started before long before new ownership. The staff revolted and lost their minds about the Trump townhall. CNN is killing itself. Licht was a victim of Tapper, Cooper and Barn Ass Burnett.

Good post my friend.

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

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I was done with him after he trashed John McCain.

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Hey buddy? John McCain was a POS.

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Yes McCain was trash.

Jeeper79 said:

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bobbranco said:

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girlfriend_experience said:

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I know you are trolling but Harris has the whole media apparatus behind her that is hard to overcome

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You will need to add in the weak TDS'd mental midgets.

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I won't be happy if Kamala wins, but seeing you and several others back here after the election would be a silver lining.

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Whatever.
I don't believe you.

Gunny456 said:

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Good post my friend.

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ApachePilot said:

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It's easy to blame Trump. He is not a politician nor wants to be one. He just says what he thinks. But if anyone is to blame it's the deep state and media. Both are once again working overtime to skew the narrative. It doesn't matter who was running, this anti-American block would misrepresent the facts. While protecting the dem. Sadly we live in a world of sound bites and folks that just read headlines. Hard to over come disinformation when people are purposely stupid.

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First, you can't claim that someone who was president for 4 years is not a politician.

Second, if he's running, it's absolutely his fault if he fails. His and the people who chose him in the primary.

ApachePilot said:

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It's easy to blame Trump. He is not a politician nor wants to be one. He just says what he thinks. But if anyone is to blame it's the deep state and media. Both are once again working overtime to skew the narrative. It doesn't matter who was running, this anti-American block would misrepresent the facts. While protecting the dem. Sadly we live in a world of sound bites and folks that just read headlines. Hard to over come disinformation when people are purposely stupid.

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LMAO

"doesn't want to be a politician"

"runs for President THREE TIMES"

does not compute my friend.

now, you can say Trump wants to act as if he has no political skills,

but he has been running for President since 2015.

ttu_85 said:

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Yes some Trump supports on this site post the dumbest boot licking crap. They just attack any criticism regarding Trump and seem to have difficultly discerning personal criticism vs policy criticism vs election strategy/approach. Interestingly these folks rarely talk policy and damn sure cant debate it. Its TDS this and TDS that.

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It's is very simple and does not need to devolve into a long discussion. Many see the blowhard personal criticism of Trump as hypocrisy at is finest. Trump is criticized by the press because he says mean things then his 'teammates' immediately run to TexAgs and lose their minds. It's a constant cacophany of hate, quitting the team, and withholding a vote. It's beyond stupid and tiresome.. If you want to rid yourself of the Kamala, persist, hold your criticism and win. Anything else is actively playing for the other team.

Anyone running as a conservative is going to get destroyed. Trump just makes it easier. Out of curiosity who would run with a conservative platform and not be painted in a negative light? I'm not even trying to defend Trump. I honestly believe it doesn't matter as to how the media works.

Gunny456 said:

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Luck is just a word and had nothing to do with him surviving the attempt.
It takes great courage to overcome a near death or serious injury experience….. he has done that and I greatly respect him for that courage. Something like that would make most people quit.
People understand that. He had an opportunity to use that experience to focus his message on uniting the country and explaining a plan to accomplish that…… and to cease the petty childish campaign rhetoric that we are all sick of on both sides.

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Another good post.

I can't imagine the state of our country if an assassination attempt of Kamala or Joe grazed an ear.

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JohnnyAlamo said:

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Lifelong Republican but I just can't vote for Trump after the voter fraud debacle and J6. I want honest elections in this country, but I need to see evidence of the fraud that supposedly took place. It's been 4 years and nothing but unproved theories and rumors. I have serious concerns Trump would try to remain in office for a 3rd term based on his past behavior.

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Then don't look at it as a vote for Trump. Look at it as a vote for a Republican executive and a Republican Judiciary. The president doesn't really run the government, the minions do.

You'd rather have democrats running the government and all the crap they'd do to you and your family over your resentment of a single guy? For the record I don't like Trump either, but can see the situation for what it is.

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What have democrats done to me and my family?

what happens if it's a 269-269 tie? the present House votes or the newly elected House votes?

talk about constitutional crisis!!

Trump isn't blowing any campaigns. Beating the Democrat Machine is dependent upon them running a flawed candidate and not running a smart campaign (see HRC and her not stepping one foot in WI in 2016). GWB beat two incredibly weak pansies. Same with GHWB beating Dukakis, as well as Reagan beating Carter and Mondale. Nixon beat Humphrey and McGovern, two incredibly liberal candidates, very similar to Harris and Walz.

When the Dems run a candidate that isn't perceived as being stupid or weak, they usually win. Bill Clinton and Obama ran circles around the GOP in their campaigns against old stiff white dudes. Biden was given that win over Trump with all of the shenanigans they got legalized in those 6 Purple States, but he also had a record he could run on and talk to union workers in the Rust Belt and black voters in the South to get support because of his record, albeit a bad one in my opinion, but not to libs.

And with Harris now, Trump losing to her will be more because of the last 60+ years of liberal indoctrination just being too tough to beat. Too much media, entertainment, and education exposure to overcome. But make no mistake, she would be President Camacho in a skirt from Idiocracy. She's that moronic. And Taiwan better get their anuses prepared accordingly, as should Israel, as the Muslims in the ME are gonna be very emboldened.

If Trump wins, though, it will be because we as a country still have enough in us to recognize that the Coastal Elites are still not gonna control us in the Middle/Southern/Western parts of the country. And I still believe we will win this, just because she is a complete imbecile.

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Gunny456 said:

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I thought the attempted assassination humbled him a bit and had changed his demeanor……. He had everything headed his way after that.
But he can not help himself and went right back to his childish name calling and rambling….. this makes folks dislike him….. and many are shallow enough to have that dislike skew their vote.
All he needed to do was stick to saying what he would do to better the country and get his message across.
It was his to lose and it appears he is accomplishing that.
I'll vote for him no matter but many won't.

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Surviving an assassination attempt doesn't make you a hero. It just makes you lucky.

He had a golden opportunity to be a voice to tone down rhetoric and focus on the issues , but he's squandered it.

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His immediate response to the assassination attempt was "heroic." It was dang near Hollywood blockbuster-esque. You just look silly trying to dismiss that.

Jeeper79 said:

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bobbranco said:

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girlfriend_experience said:

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I know you are trolling but Harris has the whole media apparatus behind her that is hard to overcome

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You will need to add in the weak TDS'd mental midgets.

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I won't be happy if Kamala wins, but seeing you and several others back here after the election would be a silver lining.

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Are you at least going to vote for him? Or are you going to be one of those whiney morons who illogically cuts off his nose to spite his face so you can feel "principled"?

Mark Stoops said:

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Because Trump is who he is, there is a such a defined and unbreakable cap on his support. His support tends to be more enthusiastic, but the cap on it is also more defined that probably any other President in U.S. history.

Because of this, he doesn't have a large margin of error to play around with. It requires a certain amount of discipline. Discipline is not his thing. Therefore, he's just not a very good candidate electorally speaking. He never was. He just happened to go up against one of the most repugnant politicians in America.

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Great points.

That has been my concern is that people discount how much Trumps success was a product of the "hate Hillary" factor.

Once she was out Trump at the top of party was a drag in 2018, 2020 AND 2022.

All candidates are flawed candidates but it is a binary choice. The people in the middle that swing election often go, not with policy, with who they see as the "lesser of two evils". Trump loses that measure for moderates to almost everyone.

Kamala has plenty of flaws to campaign against but if she stays disciplined and scripted and Trump continues to spout out "stream of consciousness" this one might be tough for us too.

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Mark Stoops said:

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Because Trump is who he is, there is a such a defined and unbreakable cap on his support. His support tends to be more enthusiastic, but the cap on it is also more defined that probably any other President in U.S. history.

Because of this, he doesn't have a large margin of error to play around with. It requires a certain amount of discipline. Discipline is not his thing. Therefore, he's just not a very good candidate electorally speaking. He never was. He just happened to go up against one of the most repugnant politicians in America.

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Great points.

That has been my concern is that people discount how much Trumps success was a product of the "hate Hillary" factor.

Once she was out Trump at the top of party was a drag in 2018, 2020 AND 2022.

All candidates are flawed candidates but it is a binary choice. The people in the middle that swing election often go, not with policy, with who they see as the "lesser of two evils". Trump loses that measure for moderates to almost everyone.

Kamala has plenty of flaws to campaign against but if she stays disciplined and scripted and Trump continues to spout out "stream of consciousness" this one might be tough for us too.

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The last three elections have all been comprised exclusively of some of the worst candidates in the modern era. Trump has run against three of the only candidates he could beat, and Trump was probably the only candidate any of them could beat. Certainly that's the case for 2020 and 2024.

I still think Trump has a small but significant advantage, but he's going to need to stop reloading after shooting himself in the foot already.

bobbranco said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Yes some Trump supports on this site post the dumbest boot licking crap. They just attack any criticism regarding Trump and seem to have difficultly discerning personal criticism vs policy criticism vs election strategy/approach. Interestingly these folks rarely talk policy and damn sure cant debate it. Its TDS this and TDS that.

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It's is very simple and does not need to devolve into a long discussion. Many see the blowhard personal criticism of Trump as hypocrisy at is finest. Trump is criticized by the press because he says mean things then his 'teammates' immediately run to TexAgs and lose their minds. It's a constant cacophany of hate, quitting the team, and withholding a vote. It's beyond stupid and tiresome.. If you want to rid yourself of the Kamala, persist, hold your criticism and win. Anything else is actively playing for the other team.

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Begging and pleading and hoping Trump will do the smart things like stay on policy, hit the bad guys with the eco, immigration, bad FP, and turning the gov into a police state VS the goofy name calling. using valuable time and circumstance to push grudge matches with governors of large, tight EV rich states is NOT playing for the other team.

Its hoping your head coach, OC/DC or QB will get their head out of their ass and play to win the game. Totally different things. Just win the game !!! but no Trump has to jack around and do stupid things at the worst times and the worst places. Totally unnecessary. If he plays smart and stay on task he can win despite what big media says.

I despise the demoRats that much. I want them hammered and destroyed. But it seems Trump sometimes forgets who the real enemy is.

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redseven94 said:

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Mark Stoops said:

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Because Trump is who he is, there is a such a defined and unbreakable cap on his support. His support tends to be more enthusiastic, but the cap on it is also more defined that probably any other President in U.S. history.

Because of this, he doesn't have a large margin of error to play around with. It requires a certain amount of discipline. Discipline is not his thing. Therefore, he's just not a very good candidate electorally speaking. He never was. He just happened to go up against one of the most repugnant politicians in America.

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Great points.

That has been my concern is that people discount how much Trumps success was a product of the "hate Hillary" factor.

Once she was out Trump at the top of party was a drag in 2018, 2020 AND 2022.

All candidates are flawed candidates but it is a binary choice. The people in the middle that swing election often go, not with policy, with who they see as the "lesser of two evils". Trump loses that measure for moderates to almost everyone.

Kamala has plenty of flaws to campaign against but if she stays disciplined and scripted and Trump continues to spout out "stream of consciousness" this one might be tough for us too.

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The last three elections have all been comprised exclusively of some of the worst candidates in the modern era. Trump has run against three of the only candidates he could beat, and Trump was probably the only candidate any of them could beat. Certainly that's the case for 2020 and 2024.

I still think Trump has a small but significant advantage, but he's going to need to stop reloading after shooting himself in the foot already.

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Yep. He could have a huge advantage. The dems have totally jacked up this country and the half the world. All he has to do is play it smart and he wins it. Still waiting for that to happen

Trump is still in the same spot as he was two weeks ago vs Harris per this poll. She is where Biden was behind Trump before the debates

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/content/ar-AA1ownx8?ocid=superappdhp&muid=6D6369D6C43B47CFA7AA48A212A39294&adid=&anid=&market=en-us&cm=en-us&activityId=66b5382b0098445ab16c77c5c4700918&bridgeVersionInt=89&fontSize=sa_fontSize&isChinaBuild=false

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what happens if it's a 269-269 tie? the present House votes or the newly elected House votes?

talk about constitutional crisis!!

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This is a nightmare Scenario. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it goes something like this.

lol. There would not be any crisis.

The "new" Congress is the delegations that would vote.

Trump is Trump. He has 47%. It probably isn't going any higher than this, but no lower. That can get him to 270 EV.

KH has to get to 51% to win the electoral college, IMHO. And i just don't see it happening. But it obviously can because of fraud, abortion, and the stupidity of "I want to vote for the first woman of color to be President so I don't feel guilty as a white woman in the suburbs"

Trump could go in front of the camera and social media and be a nicer version of himself and it would actually hurt him because MAGA loves the insults and self-promotion. Its just what society is today. He'll get my vote for the 3rd straight time, as I know what I get with him. Not everything I like, by any means, but policy matters the most and he wants America to look like it has in the past, unlike the Marxists of the Democratic Party.

ApachePilot said:

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Anyone running as a conservative is going to get destroyed. Trump just makes it easier. Out of curiosity who would run with a conservative platform and not be painted in a negative light? I'm not even trying to defend Trump. I honestly believe it doesn't matter as to how the media works.

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I'm not saying MSM media bias doesn't exist. But you said it yourself… "Trump just makes it easier."

I'd stated some stats a couple of pages ago that show Republicans having the majority of state and national level elected positions (governorships, reps, senators). Thats despite media bias. Republicans CAN win if you pick the right one. But MAGA have been programmed to think that the problem is anything but Trump.

If Trump would stfu with the personal insults, stick to a focused 5-point campaign speech, and run ads showing Kamala babbling with her Marxist word salad he'd win.
1. Support the rule of law. Border enforcement has to be a priority. Commit to sending supplemental federal prosecutors to all the progressive cities taken over by Soros-funded DA's and trying to reclaim our cities as liveable places.
2. Commit to restoring the US military to an organization focused on instilling fear in our enemies and winning conflicts. Cull the trans-integration corps, the DEI bean counters, the "we're going to be the first all-electric military" morons. Build up American shipyards, sub assembly capacity and munitions manufacturing facilities before it's too late.
3. Commit to cutting government spending and agencies, using the best of the Project 2025 recommendations. At some point someone is going to have to engage in unpopular adulting, or the deficit will destroy us. Use the Clinton-era welfare reform policy as a starting point (wiped out by Obama) for entitlement reform.
4. Focus on economic opportunity for the masses. Encourage small business friendly policies and entrepreneurship education for new legal immigrants. Stop trying to out-Democrat the Democrats with the "we're going to put 10% tariffs on all imports from all countries" and "I'll promise not to tax tips if you'll vote for me " garbage.
5. Focus on American independence and economic interests rather than global profit. America is completely reliant on China for most of our medical supplies, antibiotics, vaccines and much of our electronics. We import military aircraft components from China. If we end up in a conflict with China over Taiwan, our hospitals will be overwhelmed and our supply chains shut off in days. Commit to the painful task of extricating us from China for all essential supplies.

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Trump is Trump. He has 47%. It probably isn't going any higher than this, but no lower. That can get him to 270 EV.

KH has to get to 51% to win the electoral college, IMHO. And i just don't see it happening. But it obviously can because of fraud, abortion, and the stupidity of "I want to vote for the first woman of color to be President so I don't feel guilty as a white woman in the suburbs"

Trump could go in front of the camera and social media and be a nicer version of himself and it would actually hurt him because MAGA loves the insults and self-promotion. It's just what society is today. He'll get my vote for the 3rd straight time, as I know what I get with him. Not everything I like, by any means, but policy matters the most and he wants America to look like it has in the past, unlike the Marxists of the Democratic Party.

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Nobody that's prepared to vote for Trump is going to withhold their vote because he suddenly becomes nicer or more disciplined.

ApachePilot said:

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Anyone running as a conservative is going to get destroyed. Trump just makes it easier. Out of curiosity who would run with a conservative platform and not be painted in a negative light? I'm not even trying to defend Trump. I honestly believe it doesn't matter as to how the media works.

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The GOP is screwed because of much more than just the media. The leadership has had 4 years to address the ballot issues and has done but continue to whine that the last election was unfair. We are still getting the same messaging as 4 years ago. If you can't change the rules, then I expect you to embrace them better than your opponents.


But I doubt you will find anyone taking responsibility for this if it does end up as another loss like I believe it will be. And they will continue complaining that it's not fair for another four years, then be surprised yet again.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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ApachePilot said:

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Anyone running as a conservative is going to get destroyed. Trump just makes it easier. Out of curiosity who would run with a conservative platform and not be painted in a negative light? I'm not even trying to defend Trump. I honestly believe it doesn't matter as to how the media works.

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The GOP is screwed because of much more than just the media. The leadership has had 4 years to address the ballot issues and has done but continue to whine that the last election was unfair. We are still getting the same messaging as 4 years ago. If you can't change the rules, then I expect you to embrace them better than your opponents.


But I doubt you will find anyone taking responsibility for this if it does end up as another loss like I believe it will be. And they will continue complaining that it's not fair for another four years, then be surprised yet again.

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My last post applies here too. If we have an unbeatable, illegal voting machine working against us, why are most governors, state reps, state senators, and US reps Rs? And US senators are only one seat away from being tied.

Do cheaters only cheat against Trump? (And for this argument, MAGA candidates are effectively Trump.)

All this talk about cheating is just a way for MAGA management to say "it's not my fault I lost. Pick me again next time. It'll be different."

Eh.
Second string sits on the bench and whines.