Trump Harris poll thread

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eric76 said:

Edward_Colston said:

eric76 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

New polls. Basically a dead heat, which is good for trump and Republicans.
Why do you think that?

With all the convention hooplah and publiciity, the nominee from that party will generally see a rise in the poll numbers, but it isn't permanent. Trump is seeing that rise now.

The Democratic Convention has yet to happen. When it does, we can expect to see Harris (assuming she is the nominee) to see a rise in her poll numbers. It would not be unexpected to see her up by 5 to 10 points for some period of time: maybe a week, maybe a month. Who knows?

From what little I've read, it appears that the Democrats are arguing that Vance brings absolutely nothing to the Trump Campaign. He shores up no weak spots for Trump while someone like Doug Berghum would have undoubtedly been a big help to Trump in the election. I don't know whether they are correct or not, but they do make a plausible argument that Vance was chosen as Trump's running mate for his loyalty to Trump. It remains to be seen how loyal Vance will be to Trump.

What is clear is that Trump is now the only doddering old man in the election. I don't know if that will hurt him real much, but it definitely won't help him.

Against Biden, Trump had a chance. It remains to be seen whether Trump will have any chance against just about any other Democrat except maybe if the Democrats were stupid enough to choose Hillary as their nominee.
They know Harris is going to lose they are trying to save down ballot races.

Doug Berhgum wasn't picked due to his stance on abortion in his state that would have hurt trump and played into the dems hands where are you getting your info? LOL
Like it or not, if Trump runs on ending abortion, it almost surely isn't going to help him.
Trump has already said he is against a national ban, and the matter for all intents and purposes has been decided. It lies with the states and that is where it will stay. This whole "Trump wants a national abortion ban!" is more red meat lies to the LIV libs.
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Agthatbuilds said:

Kamala will get a "freshness" bump and there's usually a bump with the convention. But she did horribly within even her own people. She's likely to have many awkward moments as the publicity builds.

She's not a good speaker. She doesn't have great stage presence. I don't think she will turn back the Hispanic and black male voters to her party and I'm not sold she is palatable enough for the suburban mom. I'd rank her about 3 on the list of people who Trump can beat- 1 being Hillary, 2 biden and three kamala.


I certainly can't argue with that. The Democrats could certainly improve their chances with someone else.

Whether or not Harris can pull it off remains to be seen. That she has been out of the brightest spotlights until now won't hurt her.
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Artorias said:

eric76 said:

Edward_Colston said:

eric76 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

New polls. Basically a dead heat, which is good for trump and Republicans.
Why do you think that?

With all the convention hooplah and publiciity, the nominee from that party will generally see a rise in the poll numbers, but it isn't permanent. Trump is seeing that rise now.

The Democratic Convention has yet to happen. When it does, we can expect to see Harris (assuming she is the nominee) to see a rise in her poll numbers. It would not be unexpected to see her up by 5 to 10 points for some period of time: maybe a week, maybe a month. Who knows?

From what little I've read, it appears that the Democrats are arguing that Vance brings absolutely nothing to the Trump Campaign. He shores up no weak spots for Trump while someone like Doug Berghum would have undoubtedly been a big help to Trump in the election. I don't know whether they are correct or not, but they do make a plausible argument that Vance was chosen as Trump's running mate for his loyalty to Trump. It remains to be seen how loyal Vance will be to Trump.

What is clear is that Trump is now the only doddering old man in the election. I don't know if that will hurt him real much, but it definitely won't help him.

Against Biden, Trump had a chance. It remains to be seen whether Trump will have any chance against just about any other Democrat except maybe if the Democrats were stupid enough to choose Hillary as their nominee.
They know Harris is going to lose they are trying to save down ballot races.

Doug Berhgum wasn't picked due to his stance on abortion in his state that would have hurt trump and played into the dems hands where are you getting your info? LOL
Like it or not, if Trump runs on ending abortion, it almost surely isn't going to help him.
Trump has already said he is against a national ban, and the matter for all intents and purposes has been decided. It lies with the states and that is where it will stay. This whole "Trump wants a national abortion ban!" is more red meat lies to the LIV libs.
Why does he keep bringing up his claim to overturning Roe v Wade?
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So sad that it's that close. And that's before harvesting kicks in.
Maybe it will be less close once she opens her mouth every day and spews her nonsense, and once people start putting out where she stands on things, and that she covered for a brain dead biden, among other things. Right now, she is just a new name.
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eric76 said:

Artorias said:

eric76 said:

Edward_Colston said:

eric76 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

New polls. Basically a dead heat, which is good for trump and Republicans.
Why do you think that?

With all the convention hooplah and publiciity, the nominee from that party will generally see a rise in the poll numbers, but it isn't permanent. Trump is seeing that rise now.

The Democratic Convention has yet to happen. When it does, we can expect to see Harris (assuming she is the nominee) to see a rise in her poll numbers. It would not be unexpected to see her up by 5 to 10 points for some period of time: maybe a week, maybe a month. Who knows?

From what little I've read, it appears that the Democrats are arguing that Vance brings absolutely nothing to the Trump Campaign. He shores up no weak spots for Trump while someone like Doug Berghum would have undoubtedly been a big help to Trump in the election. I don't know whether they are correct or not, but they do make a plausible argument that Vance was chosen as Trump's running mate for his loyalty to Trump. It remains to be seen how loyal Vance will be to Trump.

What is clear is that Trump is now the only doddering old man in the election. I don't know if that will hurt him real much, but it definitely won't help him.

Against Biden, Trump had a chance. It remains to be seen whether Trump will have any chance against just about any other Democrat except maybe if the Democrats were stupid enough to choose Hillary as their nominee.
They know Harris is going to lose they are trying to save down ballot races.

Doug Berhgum wasn't picked due to his stance on abortion in his state that would have hurt trump and played into the dems hands where are you getting your info? LOL
Like it or not, if Trump runs on ending abortion, it almost surely isn't going to help him.
Trump has already said he is against a national ban, and the matter for all intents and purposes has been decided. It lies with the states and that is where it will stay. This whole "Trump wants a national abortion ban!" is more red meat lies to the LIV libs.
Why does he keep bringing up his claim to overturning Roe v Wade?

What does that have to do with a national abortion ban?
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eric76 said:

Edward_Colston said:

eric76 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

New polls. Basically a dead heat, which is good for trump and Republicans.
Why do you think that?

With all the convention hooplah and publiciity, the nominee from that party will generally see a rise in the poll numbers, but it isn't permanent. Trump is seeing that rise now.

The Democratic Convention has yet to happen. When it does, we can expect to see Harris (assuming she is the nominee) to see a rise in her poll numbers. It would not be unexpected to see her up by 5 to 10 points for some period of time: maybe a week, maybe a month. Who knows?

From what little I've read, it appears that the Democrats are arguing that Vance brings absolutely nothing to the Trump Campaign. He shores up no weak spots for Trump while someone like Doug Berghum would have undoubtedly been a big help to Trump in the election. I don't know whether they are correct or not, but they do make a plausible argument that Vance was chosen as Trump's running mate for his loyalty to Trump. It remains to be seen how loyal Vance will be to Trump.

What is clear is that Trump is now the only doddering old man in the election. I don't know if that will hurt him real much, but it definitely won't help him.

Against Biden, Trump had a chance. It remains to be seen whether Trump will have any chance against just about any other Democrat except maybe if the Democrats were stupid enough to choose Hillary as their nominee.
They know Harris is going to lose they are trying to save down ballot races.

Doug Berhgum wasn't picked due to his stance on abortion in his state that would have hurt trump and played into the dems hands where are you getting your info? LOL
Like it or not, if Trump runs on ending abortion, it almost surely isn't going to help him.
Well, Trump ISN'T running on ending abortion, so...
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eric76 said:

Artorias said:

eric76 said:

Edward_Colston said:

eric76 said:

Agthatbuilds said:

New polls. Basically a dead heat, which is good for trump and Republicans.
Why do you think that?

With all the convention hooplah and publiciity, the nominee from that party will generally see a rise in the poll numbers, but it isn't permanent. Trump is seeing that rise now.

The Democratic Convention has yet to happen. When it does, we can expect to see Harris (assuming she is the nominee) to see a rise in her poll numbers. It would not be unexpected to see her up by 5 to 10 points for some period of time: maybe a week, maybe a month. Who knows?

From what little I've read, it appears that the Democrats are arguing that Vance brings absolutely nothing to the Trump Campaign. He shores up no weak spots for Trump while someone like Doug Berghum would have undoubtedly been a big help to Trump in the election. I don't know whether they are correct or not, but they do make a plausible argument that Vance was chosen as Trump's running mate for his loyalty to Trump. It remains to be seen how loyal Vance will be to Trump.

What is clear is that Trump is now the only doddering old man in the election. I don't know if that will hurt him real much, but it definitely won't help him.

Against Biden, Trump had a chance. It remains to be seen whether Trump will have any chance against just about any other Democrat except maybe if the Democrats were stupid enough to choose Hillary as their nominee.
They know Harris is going to lose they are trying to save down ballot races.

Doug Berhgum wasn't picked due to his stance on abortion in his state that would have hurt trump and played into the dems hands where are you getting your info? LOL
Like it or not, if Trump runs on ending abortion, it almost surely isn't going to help him.
Trump has already said he is against a national ban, and the matter for all intents and purposes has been decided. It lies with the states and that is where it will stay. This whole "Trump wants a national abortion ban!" is more red meat lies to the LIV libs.
Why does he keep bringing up his claim to overturning Roe v Wade?

What does that have to do with what Artorias said? Roe v Wade is not a national ban. And, for now, abortion has been decided - at the state level.
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ABC and NPR looked like that with Biden in the race 2 weeks ago. Those two have a serious Dem bias or overweight.
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This would surely mean blowout
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I find those numbers hard to believe
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Me too, but.....

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There's a really weird divide happening amongst black voters (at least on social media) and it's split pretty much down the gender line. Black women are full support of Kamala as opposes to Black men who do not want to vote for her at all. If that holds then I'd expect to see the black men category tick higher in favor of red.
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BCO07 said:

Right now it seems like the only thing that matters in Pennsylvania. There's no realistic path for Trump without it. That's why Shapiro will be her running mate
Not true.

All the sun belt swing states have been trending Trump's way in a major way (including Nevada). If he wins all of those, he only needs ONE of Wiscy, Mich. or PA. I like those odds seeing as he has been ahead in all three of those states.
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https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

Harris is pulling away. As it stands today, Trump loses.


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Not at all. Why? White women account far more votes than those category changes.

If Trump doesn't capture more white women and married couples, he will lose again.
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Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

Not at all. Why? White women account far more votes than those category changes.

If Trump doesn't capture more white women and married couples, he will lose again.
I wonder if Trump will ever figure that out.
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Wtf is Trump doing to fix any of that?
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At this point, because the switcheroo, polls really don't mean too much. Kamala Harris hasn't been but in front of a camera yet as a presidential candidate, and many polls over the last 2 weeks are likely rife with response bias from newly enthusiastic people who were always going to vote for Biden in the end anyway.

And again, even the worst polls for Trump are within the margin of error in the most important swing states. Which given what at this point should be base assumption (Trump out performing polling in swing states), Trump is still the favorite.
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Still.a long way to go for sure and there's definitely a bump for kamala.

Should she ever get out in public, I'd expect people to remember how terrible she is.

Walz will probably do poorly as well.

However, with a complicit media actively blowing the dem candidates, refusing to properly vet them in front of the American people, they'll happily let trump sink himself while hiding Harris in bidens basement.
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The dems strategy is to hide Harris and let Trump self-destruct.

And surprise, surprise Trump is doing just that.

The polls reflect that. You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.

His big money donors are giving him an earful and if he doesn't begin solely focusing on issues his money is going to dry up.
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SA68AG said:

You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.



Do you remember 2016? How did those polls work out for Clinton?
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SA68AG said:

The dems strategy is to hide Harris and let Trump self-destruct.

And surprise, surprise Trump is doing just that.

The polls reflect that. You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.

His big money donors are giving him an earful and if he doesn't begin solely focusing on issues his money is going to dry up.
LOL. Trump always underpolls his actual support.
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When do we start the Texags bets? Is LakewayAg in charge of this?
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I think it will be a close election. After Kamala Harris picked Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz instead of Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro as her running mate, I think Donald Trump and JD Vance have a higher chance of winning Pennsylvania. I am predicting Trump and Vance will win with 287 electoral votes by winning swing states Pennsylvania (19), North Carolina (16), Georgia (16), Arizona (11), and Nevada (6).
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aggiehawg said:

SA68AG said:

The dems strategy is to hide Harris and let Trump self-destruct.

And surprise, surprise Trump is doing just that.

The polls reflect that. You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.

His big money donors are giving him an earful and if he doesn't begin solely focusing on issues his money is going to dry up.
LOL. Trump always underpolls his actual support.
LOL. So you actually think Trump is running a winning campaign ?

He still lost in 2020 to a vegetable who didn't even campaign.

His pathway to victory this time is so easy but he just can't keep his eye on the ball .
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Trump & the R PACs should be running non-stop ads of Harris/Walz saying/doing stupid sheet. There is plenty of material on the web.
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AJCB said:

SA68AG said:

You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.



Do you remember 2016? How did those polls work out for Clinton?
Do you remember 2020 when the dems weaponized the election process? Trump has to win by at least 10% to eek out a win.
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chjoak said:

Trump & the R PACs should be running non-stop ads of Harris/Walz saying/doing stupid sheet. There is plenty of material on the web.
It's not just the stupid **** they say. They're communists. COMMUNISTS!

Why aren't they immediately being laughed off the stage? COMMUNISTS!
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TexAgs91 said:

chjoak said:

Trump & the R PACs should be running non-stop ads of Harris/Walz saying/doing stupid sheet. There is plenty of material on the web.
It's not just the stupid **** they say. They're communists. COMMUNISTS!

Why aren't they immediately being laughed off the stage? COMMUNISTS!

I get it but I don't think you can attack them by calling them "communists". Too many young voters don't understand how communism/socialism is a bad thing. You have the run the ads and SHOW people that they are communists. Show them how their policies/beliefs will (and are) negatively effecting their lives.
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SA68AG said:

aggiehawg said:

SA68AG said:

The dems strategy is to hide Harris and let Trump self-destruct.

And surprise, surprise Trump is doing just that.

The polls reflect that. You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.

His big money donors are giving him an earful and if he doesn't begin solely focusing on issues his money is going to dry up.
LOL. Trump always underpolls his actual support.
LOL. So you actually think Trump is running a winning campaign ?

He still lost in 2020 to a vegetable who didn't even campaign.

His pathway to victory this time is so easy but he just can't keep his eye on the ball .
Anyone who still thinks Joe won that "free and fair election" is quite naive.
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Still waiting for Trump to win a lawsuit regarding election fraud. Even if there was fraud, nothing can be done at this point. Need to stop talking about it. Nobody cares. Just like calling Kamala a fake black. It doesn't win elections.
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SA68AG said:

aggiehawg said:

SA68AG said:

The dems strategy is to hide Harris and let Trump self-destruct.

And surprise, surprise Trump is doing just that.

The polls reflect that. You can deny the polls all day long but the fact is Trump's campaign is floundering and
he hasn't shown that he has the discipline to right the ship.

His big money donors are giving him an earful and if he doesn't begin solely focusing on issues his money is going to dry up.
LOL. Trump always underpolls his actual support.
LOL. So you actually think Trump is running a winning campaign ?

He still lost in 2020 to a vegetable who didn't even campaign.

His pathway to victory this time is so easy but he just can't keep his eye on the ball .
Interesting you say this, as the Biden "basement" strategy did indeed work in 2020.

And look what that got us. A demented shell of a man who wasn't a uniter, wasn't "moderate", but was a placeholder that enabled a violent lurch to the left, bringing us out of control illegal immigration, a war on domestic energy production, and weakend our position worldwide.

So what does the new candidate do???

Run straight to the basement, only making carefully scripted comments that reveal no substance, and refuses to take any substantive questions from an ever-compliant media.

At least with Trump you know what you're getting. We know what we'll get with Kamala, too. She just won't admit it now.

You'd think 50% of the electorate would get wise to the blatant manipulation, but I guess there's a reason there's a "Govern me harder" meme.
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Harris takes 3-point lead over Trump as she gains on key issues: poll | Fox News
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