*****Official Conspiracy Theory Thread*****

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Who is he following in the blue shirt/sunglasses with a big "lump" in his left hip?
His handler.

I saw a theory that makes a lot of sense for a few reasons. His handler coaxed him into going to the rally with a gun and some bombs in hopes of him being caught. The FBI could do what they do best, say they prevented another atrocity thus justifying more money, by preventing a shooting a bombing. The handler thought there was no way he would have actually been able to get anywhere near the president much less get a shot.

It is either that or behind the scenes the powers put in a skeleton crew knowing there was going to be a shooter and the rest is history.
I don't agree with this, for a few reasons. First, the FBI are utterly clueless, and generally morons. They don't plan things, they react. Sure, they are brownshirts as to investigations to support the Democrats/communists, but they didn't plan this hit. Second, the handler clearly gave him the intelligence data to pull off these shots.

It wasn't just about money/bombs but a belief he could be famous for it. Classic CIA/intelligence operation. Third, the 'in the know' group also made sure to have (a) CNN live streaming it, and (b) a cell-phone-only equipped team of snipers on site, without a pre site planning map/survey, or comms to local police etc. And suppressed/refused aerial surveillance (drones) or overwatch of the buildings in question.

I 'love and trust' the FBI as much as anyone here but they are only involved in the cover up, not the actual assassination attempt, imho.
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nortex97 said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Raiderjay said:



Who is he following in the blue shirt/sunglasses with a big "lump" in his left hip?
His handler.

I saw a theory that makes a lot of sense for a few reasons. His handler coaxed him into going to the rally with a gun and some bombs in hopes of him being caught. The FBI could do what they do best, say they prevented another atrocity thus justifying more money, by preventing a shooting a bombing. The handler thought there was no way he would have actually been able to get anywhere near the president much less get a shot.

It is either that or behind the scenes the powers put in a skeleton crew knowing there was going to be a shooter and the rest is history.
I don't agree with this, for a few reasons. First, the FBI are utterly clueless, and generally morons. They don't plan things, they react. Sure, they are brownshirts as to investigations to support the Democrats/communists, but they didn't plan this hit. Second, the handler clearly gave him the intelligence data to pull off these shots.

It wasn't just about money/bombs but a belief he could be famous for it. Classic CIA/intelligence operation. Third, the 'in the know' group also made sure to have (a) CNN live streaming it, and (b) a cell-phone-only equipped team of snipers on site, without a pre site planning map/survey, or comms to local police etc. And suppressed/refused aerial surveillance (drones) or overwatch of the buildings in question.

I 'love and trust' the FBI as much as anyone here but they are only involved in the cover up, not the actual assassination attempt, imho.
Good post I agree with your take on the CIA. That is likely the correct direction in this... hypothetical convo.
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Weird the FBI and USS didn'tโ€ฆput this correct data out earlier, right? We have to rely on Clay Higgins' investigation, not one of the 8 or 10 'official' ones?


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Weird, as the Democrats would say. In any normal world this would be implausible, but we live in a world where the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Director of the Secret Service are remarkably uninterested in doing their jobs if they don't like what that entails.
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The first shot to strike the man who fired at former President Donald Trump came from a local law enforcement officer, according to a preliminary report from an investigation by a U.S. congressman.
Thomas Crooks fired eight shots from the rooftop of a building near where Trump was speaking in Butler County, Pennsylvania, on July 13.

Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) found that the next shot came from a county SWAT officer who was about 100 yards away from the building on which Crooks was positioned.

When the officer from the Butler County Emergency Services Unit saw Crooks as a moving target on the rooftop, he quickly left his post and sprinted toward the man, "running to a clear shot position directly into the line of fire while Crooks was firing," Higgins said.

"He stopped Crooks and importantly, I believe the shot damaged the buffer tube on Crooks' AR," Higgins added, citing eyewitness testimony.

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That must have been seen as pretty inconvenient to the people who wanted Trump executed. I can't say for sure who those people are and if the number involved in this incident go beyond Crooks, but this was rather improbable and unpredictable. If the cop hadn't shot Crooks' gun, the president might have been killed, or many other bystanders.

The complete and utter failure of the Secret Service to do even the minimum necessary to provide more than protection theater is puzzling. Puzzling, that is, if you believe that the people involved were dedicated to keeping Trump alive.
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Local cops are the real heroes in all this.
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CHICAGO Trump rally gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks used encrypted messaging accounts on various platforms located in Belgium, New Zealand and Germany, according to a member of a congressional task force investigating his assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump.

Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.), one of 13 lawmakers tapped to serve on the House bipartisan task force, told reporters at a Wednesday press conference at the Trump Hotel Chicago that the "overseas accounts" piqued his suspicion immediately regarding the shooter's motives."

"Why does a 19-year-old kid who is a health care aid need encrypted platforms not even based in the United States, but based abroad where most terrorist organizations know it is harder for our law enforcement to get into?" asked Waltz.
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This is merely a middle aged conspiracy at this point, vs. Butler, or JFK etc, but is this true? I've always wondered why Obama latched onto Wright's church, outside of a need to show some sort of loosely christian background.

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What are y'all's thoughts on the Accelerationist theory applying to the Trump assassin?

I've heard of accelerationist ideology, but someone shared this video with me and made me consider it as a possible motive.

This independent journalist is having their YouTube posts removed regularly, so take it for what it's worthโ€ฆ I thought it was an interesting angle to consider.



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Never heard of this term. Will watch and then comment later.
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Re: Accelerationist. Would you say Antifa is an accelerationist group? If so, the idea of the assassination attempt being an Antifa orchestrated event by a few rogue Antifa actors (Crooks, Yearick, Hooper, ??) to incite societal breakdown makes sense. Did it require inside help? No, if you assume the SS and FBI are simply incompetent. Would it surprise anyone if it had inside help? No, assuming there are bad actors in the SS/FBI who 'allowed' the Antifa group room to be successful while maintaining plausible deniability. I am of the opinion we will never know as the SS/FBI will never admit to either scenario.

To clarify, I am not saying the SS/FBI had direct knowledge of Crooks's plan. I am simply saying security gaps may have been allowed to exist on the off chance someone wanted to take advantage.

Also, I am not dismissing the SS/FBI direct knowledge or participation.
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The idea of Accelerationism hmmm. I am finding it impossible to share my thoughts in a clear manner.


How would you not count any group actively doing anything in the real world as part of this idea? I mean all people and groups that act violently or destructively are trying to get their way NOW.

But I would still assume most of them aren't knowingly or unknowingly framing their actions under the banner of Accelerationism. But any person that wanted to put them in that group would be factually correct to do so.

Or in other words I think its a kind of useless way of explaining or framing anything. As it has no specificity or predictive power.
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From what I understand, there are various forms of Accelerationism that aren't inherently based in left or right ideology. Both extremes exist it seems.

As of recent times, from my understanding it essentially consists now of nihilistic terror groups that believe that society as a whole is inevitably on the verge of collapse, and want to accelerate the collapse by causing chaos in any way possible.
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USSS just didn't pick up the radios the locals set aside to communicate with them in Butler. Some are now suspended finally, with pay:
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The day before the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, a tactical team of local police officers set aside radios for their Secret Service partners so the two agencies could communicate during the former president's July 13 campaign rally.

But those radios were never picked up.

The next day, three minutes before shots were fired toward Trump, local police radioed that a man was on a nearby roof. That warning never made it to the Secret Service, whose snipers didn't know the would-be assassin was on the roof until shots rang out. In the 15 seconds it took for snipers to lock onto and kill the shooter, he was able to fire off eight shots...

"I can confirm that the Butler County ESU team made radios available to the Secret Service and that they were not utilized by the Secret Service," Goldinger said in a statement. While it's unclear if Secret Service would have gotten the warning about a man on the roof had they picked up the radios, Goldinger said, "It is safe to assume that if a holder of an ESU radio was paying attention, they would have received the call."
Three minutes is a long time in a situation like this. Snipers could have been on Thomas Crooks before he fired a shot if they'd gotten those messages. Whose responsibility was it to pick up those radios? Why didn't they do it? Beyond that, why didn't the Secret Service have a better system in place to share information?
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Very important/good thread as to how Fauci became empowered by the Patriot act to develop bioweapons, eventually resorting to the use of the Wuhan Institute of Virology:







I hope more folks click through the links (I don't want to make this post too long or I'd include more). Fauci is guilty of crimes against humanity.
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It needs its own thread. Start an OP and leave this here.
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I've sentenced myself to only one new thread a week. Feel free to go for it.
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JFABNRGR said:

It needs its own thread. Start an OP and leave this here.

I dunno. This could easily morph into an all conspiracies thread.
Trump will fix it.
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Shooter's father lawyers up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13765351/Father-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-hires-criminal-attorney.html
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techno-ag said:

Shooter's father lawyers up.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13765351/Father-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-hires-criminal-attorney.html
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In April, Crooks searched websites for information on major depressive disorder and depressive crisis treatment.

Speaking shortly after the shooting one family friend told DailyMail.com that they had been aware of a decline in Crooks's mental health in recent years and assumed he was either bi-polar or schizophrenic.
Also from the article.
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Is it possible the arrest of the Telegram messaging app CEO has anything to do with Crooks case? Is it possible that Crooks was using Telegram and the company refused to cooperate with the investigation? Also wild that social media / messaging platforms used for all kinds of things but suddenly it's a priority to go after this one guy.
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After the Crumbley case in MI, that is just smart to lawyer up. If the reports are true that their son was declining mentally and still transferred ownership of the gun to him?
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Six-weeks later and the most reasonable explanation is that the kid was loped out on psychotropic drugs and had grandiose delusions. Whether he had any outside support or encouragement is the obvious question that remains. And also coincidentally the part that investigative authorities are struggling with the most.

6-weeks later and we cant figure out what's going on with a 20-y/o ****bird kid living in his parents basement.

If we struggling this much with a 20-y/o kid, just how safe are we from threats that aren't a 20-year old kid?

A 20 y/o kid serving food at a nursing home somehow owned everybody involved.

Wild times.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13780647/Lawmakers-head-Butler-Pennsylvania-gather-firsthand-facts-Trump-shooting-ground-zero-Secret-Service-slow-walks-information.html
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This crap is getting old. Ten SS agents on her personal detail?

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Sickening, and true. Please note; this is a bipartisan problem.
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I may need to do this

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It was a conspiracy to make this thread title look like the Funny Political Tweet thread.

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That's ok man. All contributions welcome. Your posts were just as good as many others on here.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Is it possible the arrest of the Telegram messaging app CEO has anything to do with Crooks case? Is it possible that Crooks was using Telegram and the company refused to cooperate with the investigation? Also wild that social media / messaging platforms used for all kinds of things but suddenly it's a priority to go after this one guy.
Just read where the warrant for the Telegram CEO was issued 4-days before Trump was shot so this doesn't appear to be related.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Is it possible the arrest of the Telegram messaging app CEO has anything to do with Crooks case? Is it possible that Crooks was using Telegram and the company refused to cooperate with the investigation? Also wild that social media / messaging platforms used for all kinds of things but suddenly it's a priority to go after this one guy.
Just read where the warrant for the Telegram CEO was issued 4-days before Trump was shot so this doesn't appear to be related.
I wouldn't assume the CIA-related assassination attempt and CIA-related arrest warrant in France had to follow a set chronological order. The blob clearly got word of RFK's pending support for Trump (and electoral margins) and decided to put plans into action, imho. The Russian-national CEO's travel plans probably dictated the timing of the arrest, not the near-hit in Butler.

I'd just like to note RFK's thoughts on becoming the CIA director:



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I keep going back to Erik Prince's interview on the SRS podcast where he said;

This assassination attempt was simply an escalation of force, to accomplish the primary objective of keeping Trump out of office, when all the other operations thus far have failed.
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JFABNRGR said:

I keep going back to Erik Prince's interview on the SRS podcast where he said;

This assassination attempt was simply an escalation of force, to accomplish the primary objective of keeping Trump out of office, when all the other operations thus far have failed.

Your post reminds me of the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

If memory serves me.

  • First the US sends the economists to make a pitch
  • If the above doesn't work they send the assassins
  • If the above doesn't work they send the military
  • Then the new guy gets to sit down with the economists

And I think if you look at what we can say is a fact about South America and Africa it would be hard to argue the author was lying.
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Madman said:

JFABNRGR said:

I keep going back to Erik Prince's interview on the SRS podcast where he said;

This assassination attempt was simply an escalation of force, to accomplish the primary objective of keeping Trump out of office, when all the other operations thus far have failed.

Your post reminds me of the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

If memory serves me.

  • First the US sends the economists to make a pitch
  • If the above doesn't work they send the assassins
  • If the above doesn't work they send the military
  • Then the new guy gets to sit down with the economists

And I think if you look at what we can say is a fact about South America and Africa it would be hard to argue the author was lying.


You could change a few words there and apply that same principle or strategy to all those allies of Trump who turned on him.
 
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