And now…some sort of semi-private press conference at 2EST/1CST today?

https://t.co/Dd4ofBMXY7

— Susan Crabtree (@susancrabtree) August 2, 2024

The cover up/clown show is obviously losing believers.

I think it was more or less common knowledge in DC power circles that JFK was killed as part of a conspiracy.

Now, unlike then, we have more media that needs to fill air time, and of course the new and independent journalists are able to share information.

But either way the odds of actual crimes being punished is super low.

Madman said:

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I think it was more or less common knowledge in DC power circles that JFK was killed as part of a conspiracy.

Now, unlike then, we have more media that needs to fill air time, and of course the new and independent journalists are able to share information.

But either way the odds of actual crimes being punished is super low.

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Liberals do not get punished...they get promoted to their "Peter Principle" level...

INSIDE JOB and this is how it went down:

“…. remember, let them take the shot first and then take out the patsy…”

“We’ll cover for you guys. No one will question why you waited…. we got the cover story ready….” pic.twitter.com/UBXzPLdEHB

— 💥Hank💥 (@HankishTwitZone) August 2, 2024

Most everyone's thinking it.

Here's a twist. A third shooter? Bad guy Crooks, Butler ESU, and SS Hercules team?

Watched that one earlier. Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

Are these lies to cover up incompetence and laziness?

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Are these lies to cover up incompetence and laziness?

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Or both

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Are these lies to cover up incompetence and laziness?

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I'll go with option 3.

Because nobody asked, here is what I think is best explains the assassination attempt, right now.

• FBI is chatting up Crooks as part of some ongoing program, similar to what we know they have done in the past. No idea if it was to kill somebody or Trump specifically. I just say this from the phone data and previous FBI activity
• Enough info on Crooks to know he hated Republicans but maybe politicians in general
• Crooks makes his attempt, fails, FBI goes into cover up mode
• USSS was not part of any conspiracy but is more than happy to lie and mislead to cover their own incompetence, but not because they know something. They are just willing to go along with other agencies who are stonewalling or lying.

So conspiracy yes, but more so after the fact to save jobs and prevent prison. I doubt this was a conspiracy to get Trump because sending the 20 yo dork is a very low probability play. More likely Crooks was being groomed to go do something stupid with a rifle so the anti 2A crowd could have another talking point in an election year. Crooks just decided to go above and beyond and that has left the security apparatus scrambling for cover.

It's almost like they're trying to foment conspiracies.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/it-was-set-up-secret-service-admits-they/

Madman said:

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Because nobody asked, here is what I think is best explains the assassination attempt, right now.

• FBI is chatting up Crooks as part of some ongoing program, similar to what we know they have done in the past. No idea if it was to kill somebody or Trump specifically. I just say this from the phone data and previous FBI activity
• Enough info on Crooks to know he hated Republicans but maybe politicians in general
• Crooks makes his attempt, fails, FBI goes into cover up mode
• USSS was not part of any conspiracy but is more than happy to lie and mislead to cover their own incompetence, but not because they know something. They are just willing to go along with other agencies who are stonewalling or lying.

So conspiracy yes, but more so after the fact to save jobs and prevent prison. I doubt this was a conspiracy to get Trump because sending the 20 yo dork is a very low probability play. More likely Crooks was being groomed to go do something stupid with a rifle so the anti 2A crowd could have another talking point in an election year. Crooks just decided to go above and beyond and that has left the security apparatus scrambling for cover.

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Close…

Two shooters…

Unknown shooter takes the head shot that only missed because the subject moved last moment…

Cooks role was to shoot randomly into the crowd after initial shooter took out Trump to make it look like one shooter who wanted to make it a mass shooting and simply got lucky with his kill shot on Trump as part of the process…

Cooks was the diversion…he was the sleight of hand who makes the public think it was some rando lone assassin versus an actual op…

USSS agents around the stage likely not read into the op…

Local LEO not read into the op…

USSS counter sniper team(s) may have been read into the op…

High level USSS and FBI and probably an extremely small group of elected individuals, at least one "friendly" news MSM news chief, and a private financier absolutely knew about the op…

FireAg said:

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Madman said:

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Because nobody asked, here is what I think is best explains the assassination attempt, right now.

• FBI is chatting up Crooks as part of some ongoing program, similar to what we know they have done in the past. No idea if it was to kill somebody or Trump specifically. I just say this from the phone data and previous FBI activity
• Enough info on Crooks to know he hated Republicans but maybe politicians in general
• Crooks makes his attempt, fails, FBI goes into cover up mode
• USSS was not part of any conspiracy but is more than happy to lie and mislead to cover their own incompetence, but not because they know something. They are just willing to go along with other agencies who are stonewalling or lying.

So conspiracy yes, but more so after the fact to save jobs and prevent prison. I doubt this was a conspiracy to get Trump because sending the 20 yo dork is a very low probability play. More likely Crooks was being groomed to go do something stupid with a rifle so the anti 2A crowd could have another talking point in an election year. Crooks just decided to go above and beyond and that has left the security apparatus scrambling for cover.

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Close…

Two shooters…

Unknown shooter takes the head shot that only missed because the subject moved last moment…

Cooks role was to shoot randomly into the crowd after initial shooter took out Trump to make it look like one shooter who wanted to make it a mass shooting and simply got lucky with his kill shot on Trump as part of the process…

Cooks was the diversion…he was the sleight of hand who makes the public think it was some rando lone assassin versus an actual op…

USSS agents around the stage likely not read into the op…

Local LEO not read into the op…

USSS counter sniper team(s) may have been read into the op…

High level USSS and FBI and probably an extremely small group of elected individuals, at least one "friendly" news MSM news chief, and a private financier absolutely knew about the op…

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Pretty good event timeline...

A lot better than the contradictory BS they have not told us because it would implicate media, Fed higher-ups and Ex- Fearless Leaders...

It's definitely these guys that knew exactly what time it was going to go down👇👀 pic.twitter.com/tpFcQzuJY7

— --YoMomma-- (@mommapancakess) August 4, 2024

I have an odd question that I haven't seen anyone else ask so I'm going to ask it here.

Does anyone find it strange that the FBI was in such a haste as to have what appears to be a field agent on the roof washing down the crime scene less than twenty four hours from the neutralization of Crooks? And my second question is why weren't even the slightest bit of biohazard remediation protocols used? Seriously there is an entire industry dedicated to this stuff that has been used for decades. A team comes in dressed up in Tyvek and full PPE and cleans up the mess.

There are literally laws and regulations governing this process for the state of Pennsylvania

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/Victim-Services/Documents/CRIME%20SCENE%20CLEANUP.pdf





BIOHAZARD & CRIME SCENE CLEANUP PENNSYLVANIA STATE REQUIREMENTS

Vehicle Requirements

Must carry copy of license
Surfaces easily cleanable
Enclosed cargo area, impervious to leaks and spills
DOT #, Address, Phone no., Biohazard symbol signage
Must deliver to transfer station (shop) or disposal location within 72 hours
Cannot transfer from vehicle to vehicle unless emergency (vehicle breaks down)
Manifest Requirements

Generator name, address, phone, and permit no.
Transporter and facility name, address, phone, and permit no.
Type and quantity of waste
Date collected/date picked-up or delivered
Storage Requirements

Stored no more than 30 days, if so then refrigerate at 32 degrees F
Separate area for storage marked with Biohazard Symbol, wording and "No unauthorized personnel"

I don't think the audio evidence supports an additional shooter. I don't think the known hurt people and bullet holes match up with an additional shooter.


Do you have a location in mind for the second shooter and was it just one shot?

MarkTwain said:

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I have an odd question that I haven't seen anyone else ask so I'm going to ask it here.

Does anyone find it strange that the FBI was in such a haste as to have what appears to be a field agent on the roof washing down the crime scene less than twenty four hours from the neutralization of Crooks? And my second question is why weren't even the slightest bit of biohazard remediation protocols used? Seriously there is an entire industry dedicated to this stuff that has been used for decades. A team comes in dressed up in Tyvek and full PPE and cleans up the mess.

There are literally laws and regulations governing this process for the state of Pennsylvania

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/Victim-Services/Documents/CRIME%20SCENE%20CLEANUP.pdf





BIOHAZARD & CRIME SCENE CLEANUP PENNSYLVANIA STATE REQUIREMENTS

Vehicle Requirements

Must carry copy of license
Surfaces easily cleanable
Enclosed cargo area, impervious to leaks and spills
DOT #, Address, Phone no., Biohazard symbol signage
Must deliver to transfer station (shop) or disposal location within 72 hours
Cannot transfer from vehicle to vehicle unless emergency (vehicle breaks down)
Manifest Requirements

Generator name, address, phone, and permit no.
Transporter and facility name, address, phone, and permit no.
Type and quantity of waste
Date collected/date picked-up or delivered
Storage Requirements

Stored no more than 30 days, if so then refrigerate at 32 degrees F
Separate area for storage marked with Biohazard Symbol, wording and "No unauthorized personnel"

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I think that was discussed early on in this thread...like first page or so. Odd thing, within hours of the shooting (after FBI said "that's a question for USSS...they are in charge.") FBI verified Crooks' DNA...from "his" corpse...then washed the roof down.

We've also discussed the facial pictures of the "shooter",which has a beard and rounded chin (attributed to Yearick" ), and other than the transitory pic of Crooks showing no beard and a pointy chin, we are fed a constant stream of 2-yr old pics of Crooks...

USSS Director sat before Congress and told us --nothing--...other than "we are responsible"; resigned the next day and left everything in the hands of a plug ugly DEI hire "Interim Director", who has come out in Congress telling us nothing, but promised to fix it...

Oh, and it was not a boating accident...

SeMgCo87 said:

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MarkTwain said:

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I have an odd question that I haven't seen anyone else ask so I'm going to ask it here.

Does anyone find it strange that the FBI was in such a haste as to have what appears to be a field agent on the roof washing down the crime scene less than twenty four hours from the neutralization of Crooks? And my second question is why weren't even the slightest bit of biohazard remediation protocols used? Seriously there is an entire industry dedicated to this stuff that has been used for decades. A team comes in dressed up in Tyvek and full PPE and cleans up the mess.

There are literally laws and regulations governing this process for the state of Pennsylvania

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/Victim-Services/Documents/CRIME%20SCENE%20CLEANUP.pdf





BIOHAZARD & CRIME SCENE CLEANUP PENNSYLVANIA STATE REQUIREMENTS

Vehicle Requirements

Must carry copy of license
Surfaces easily cleanable
Enclosed cargo area, impervious to leaks and spills
DOT #, Address, Phone no., Biohazard symbol signage
Must deliver to transfer station (shop) or disposal location within 72 hours
Cannot transfer from vehicle to vehicle unless emergency (vehicle breaks down)
Manifest Requirements

Generator name, address, phone, and permit no.
Transporter and facility name, address, phone, and permit no.
Type and quantity of waste
Date collected/date picked-up or delivered
Storage Requirements

Stored no more than 30 days, if so then refrigerate at 32 degrees F
Separate area for storage marked with Biohazard Symbol, wording and "No unauthorized personnel"

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I think that was discussed early on in this thread...like first page or so. Odd thing, within hours of the shooting (after FBI said "that's a question for USSS...they are in charge.") FBI verified Crooks' DNA...from "his" corpse...then washed the roof down.

We've also discussed the facial pictures of the "shooter",which has a beard and rounded chin (attributed to Yearick" ), and other than the transitory pic of Crooks showing no beard and a pointy chin, we are fed a constant stream of 2-yr old pics of Crooks...

USSS Director sat before Congress and told us --nothing--...other than "we are responsible"; resigned the next day and left everything in the hands of a plug ugly DEI hire "Interim Director", who has come out in Congress telling us nothing, but promised to fix it...

Oh, and it was not a boating accident...

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I saw on page two where the same water hose picture was posted and the only comment was something about magic space boots and never anything related to my question so that's why I asked along with providing what's the actual state requirements are for specifically the commonwealth of Pennsylvania

Madman said:

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I don't think the audio evidence supports an additional shooter. I don't think the known hurt people and bullet holes match up with an additional shooter.


Do you have a location in mind for the second shooter and was it just one shot?

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I agree with this. I think the second shooter theory gained such prominence with the JFK assassination and the grassy knoll that people are projecting it onto this situation.

I don't know why they decided to quickly/crudely hose down the roof as such. I assume they just routinely ignore state laws being the wonderful FBI and all and didn't want any folks going up there to gather DNA samples to then check for 'ourselves' if it was really Crooks who was shot there.

I don't know what shocked me more, finding out that the Secret Service had never provided Trump counter sniper protection until the Butler rally or that they didn't provide the Secret Service snipers radios but told them to use their personal cell phones to text each other. pic.twitter.com/7Y16GNiFaE

— @amuse (@amuse) August 4, 2024

The counter snipers didn't even have radio's? WTAF?

MarkTwain said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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MarkTwain said:

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I have an odd question that I haven't seen anyone else ask so I'm going to ask it here.

Does anyone find it strange that the FBI was in such a haste as to have what appears to be a field agent on the roof washing down the crime scene less than twenty four hours from the neutralization of Crooks? And my second question is why weren't even the slightest bit of biohazard remediation protocols used? Seriously there is an entire industry dedicated to this stuff that has been used for decades. A team comes in dressed up in Tyvek and full PPE and cleans up the mess.

There are literally laws and regulations governing this process for the state of Pennsylvania

https://www.pccd.pa.gov/Victim-Services/Documents/CRIME%20SCENE%20CLEANUP.pdf





BIOHAZARD & CRIME SCENE CLEANUP PENNSYLVANIA STATE REQUIREMENTS

Vehicle Requirements

Must carry copy of license
Surfaces easily cleanable
Enclosed cargo area, impervious to leaks and spills
DOT #, Address, Phone no., Biohazard symbol signage
Must deliver to transfer station (shop) or disposal location within 72 hours
Cannot transfer from vehicle to vehicle unless emergency (vehicle breaks down)
Manifest Requirements

Generator name, address, phone, and permit no.
Transporter and facility name, address, phone, and permit no.
Type and quantity of waste
Date collected/date picked-up or delivered
Storage Requirements

Stored no more than 30 days, if so then refrigerate at 32 degrees F
Separate area for storage marked with Biohazard Symbol, wording and "No unauthorized personnel"

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I think that was discussed early on in this thread...like first page or so. Odd thing, within hours of the shooting (after FBI said "that's a question for USSS...they are in charge.") FBI verified Crooks' DNA...from "his" corpse...then washed the roof down.

We've also discussed the facial pictures of the "shooter",which has a beard and rounded chin (attributed to Yearick" ), and other than the transitory pic of Crooks showing no beard and a pointy chin, we are fed a constant stream of 2-yr old pics of Crooks...

USSS Director sat before Congress and told us --nothing--...other than "we are responsible"; resigned the next day and left everything in the hands of a plug ugly DEI hire "Interim Director", who has come out in Congress telling us nothing, but promised to fix it...

Oh, and it was not a boating accident...

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I saw on page two where the same water hose picture was posted and the only comment was something about magic space boots and never anything related to my question so that's why I asked along with providing what's the actual state requirements are for specifically the commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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I apologize... it seems that with eyes getting worse, some of my memory goes with it...

Aggiehawg started a thread regarding some evidence collected and "positioned for a convenient photo", without the typical CSI tagging and scaling...my response to that, on that thread, is to what I referred.

The two threads started very close to each other, Hawg asked good questions there. And we now know that F_I was in charge all along, but all Alphabets were involved in handing the hot potato to each other. Until, of course, the CIA informed us that "MKULTRA was not used on Crooks".

Me protesteth too much, methinks...

Madman said:

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I don't think the audio evidence supports an additional shooter. I don't think the known hurt people and bullet holes match up with an additional shooter.


Do you have a location in mind for the second shooter and was it just one shot?

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What audio evidence? That which we can allegedly "hear" and try to count shots? I've listened to it many times, and I count between maybe 8-10 shots, and some have argued they can make out different types of weapons in those shots…I can't, but some say they can…so I argue we really don't know but can't rule it out…

As for location, I have said since the beginning I would be looking for something directly behind the goober on the roof who I believe was there for distraction and target practice…slightly elevated like in a tree has been my theory, but I can't argue against someone being lower either…I do believe though that they were both off in the same general direction, and similar elevations, but the second shooter, in my opinion is slightly higher (or lower) than the kid who became the deceased…

Can I prove it? Nope… It's simply my theory…. But it is frankly more plausible than trying to make myself believe that USSS is simply that "incompetent" that they completely miss a dude who spent an entire day trying to draw attention to himself…enough so that many random citizens and local LEO all saw him, found him to be suspicious, and even followed him up onto a roof seeing a weapon in tow, and USSS simply had no clue he was there…

Honestly, about the only thing I really question in my theory is whether or not any of the counter sniper teams (or any individual members of those teams) was read into the op… refusing to provide them with direct radio comms makes me wonder if they were in the dark too…

FireAg said:

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Madman said:

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I don't think the audio evidence supports an additional shooter. I don't think the known hurt people and bullet holes match up with an additional shooter.


Do you have a location in mind for the second shooter and was it just one shot?

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What audio evidence? That which we can allegedly "hear" and try to count shots? I've listened to it many times, and I count between maybe 8-10 shots, and some have argued they can make out different types of weapons in those shots…I can't, but some say they can…so I argue we really don't know but can't rule it out…

As for location, I have said since the beginning I would be looking for something directly behind the goober on the roof who I believe was there for distraction and target practice…slightly elevated like in a tree has been my theory, but I can't argue against someone being lower either…I do believe though that they were both off in the same general direction, and similar elevations, but the second shooter, in my opinion is slightly higher (or lower) than the kid who became the deceased…

Can I prove it? Nope… It's simply my theory…. But it is frankly more plausible than trying to make myself believe that USSS is simply that "incompetent" that they completely miss a dude who spent an entire day trying to draw attention to himself…enough so that many random citizens and local LEO all saw him, found him to be suspicious, and even followed him up onto a roof seeing a weapon in tow, and USSS simply had no clue he was there…

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There's a video on here, I think, that has the agents counting casings...eight I believe, also there is a "MIB type" guy standing there in a grey suit.

And there appears to be no efforts of the agents to collect and record those casings, or anything else...not mention the extreme haste to power wash all of the blood evidence off the roof...does that include any possible bone fragments?

But, it was a boating accident...right??

8 casings in one spot…yup…

How many casings in another spot? We will never know, because in the mass confusion at the moment of the incident, the shooter who took the head shot retrieved their casing and slipped away…

I keep trying to tell folks this…why are magicians so good at what they do? Sleight of hand…

They get your eyes and mind paying attention to exactly what they want you to pay attention to so that the real trick can be pulled off without you realizing it…even while you are sitting there thinking you are staring at every little detail and nothing is going to get past you…

There are a lot of folks making claims about the audio/photo of the bullet etc. But most don't realize a supersonic round will have two audio sounds, the crack from being fired and the sonic boom. I am not citing anyone's video/claims in particular, but it is often very confusing to the amateurs imho.

I've seen nothing that really makes me think there was a second shooter, period. Speculation about a guy in the building, or tree line, or water tower really doesn't add up in my mind. I don't think if there were someone there they'd have been able to get away unnoticed, mainly. It seems pretty clear (again, just my take) the shooter "Crooks" on the roof got off 8 shots, before being killed.

Been awhile since I have posted. In the past, I have made posts about someone in BCS getting rich with non-profits for illegal immigrants. According to their website, they are now in Las Vegas. This person and others were involved with raising money with Brazos County Democratic Party supposedly to pay BTU bills. According to BCDP meeting notes, there were issues with how that money was spent. On a July 18 Facebook post, he said he had purchased his second Lamborghini. Of interest, at the end of the following video, he states that he is working on a project to purchase land north of Houston. Is this Tiny Hope Village? You can translate to English if needed with CC:

Here is a link to that person with Biden:

A heartfelt message for our community 🙏🏼❤️ pic.twitter.com/i6HNictUhN

— Carlos Eduardo Espina (@cespina1998) June 19, 2024

Next, in the past, I have made posts about Middle Seat's involvement with raising funds for the Biden, Beto, and numerous other campaigns. Something of interest is that they are not yet advertising that they are involved with the current Harris campaign. Of note is the fact that Fetterman is listed as a client. Take a minute to look at the case studies and how Middle Seat has been involved in influencing/fundraising some of these people. https://middleseat.co/work/

I believe the trees in the distance, behind where Cooks was, is where a pro sniper would have taken the head shot…

It's a much more difficult shot, but it would be a well concealed spot for a pro to sit and subsequently disappear from because all of the attention would have been on things taking place well in front of him…mainly Cooks (who was in plain sight), and the commotion on the stage itself…

Follow up with more info.

KBTX article: https://www.kbtx.com/2021/12/27/college-station-native-turns-passion-into-nonprofit/

Links to Detained Refugee Solidarity Fund no longer exist.

Link to purchase citizenship card: https://www.flowcode.com/page/carloseduardoespina

Listening to the active and retired guys that do this for a living and the idea of shooting from a tree is just a bad one and unlikely. And going for a head shot is also unlikely.

I don't think any of the trees have good or similar line of sight


I'll post more later. But I'm actually at the range now getting ready for a big match in October

https://vs3gun.com/

May not have been a tree…that would
Just be the easiest to disappear from…

This thread may not have the most descriptive title, but it is concerning the assassination attempt on President Trump not just conspiracies in general… You might want to start your own thread.