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Trump classified documents case dismissed
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Democrats and Ethics is an Oxymoron...Ellis Wyatt said:Or you guys can just take to kick to the teeth and move on.damiond said:
lawfare libs already have a contingency planIf Judge Cannon dismisses the indictment because she finds Smith was unlawfully appointed, here’s what DOJ should do:
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
1) Don’t appeal
2) Have US Atty in FL refile the same charges in a new case - it would be very easy and fast
3) case gets reassigned- hopefully to a new judge 1/
It won't be "easy" because it is clear much of the evidence was tainted. The whole thing was a sham. Maybe take some ethics courses.
"You are being watched..."
Pylon Cam said:
I can't think of a stupider thing to do politically than not to recharge him…letting a criminal get away with his crimes just because he's running for president would set an incredibly dangerous precedent.
If you actually cared about law and order, you would want Trump in prison where where he belongs. No one is above the law.
Is that why your side tried to kill him?
I don't think "petty" is an adequate description for raiding a former president's house, illegally using a grand jury in another jurisdiction, illegally using a special prosecutor, illegally violating attorney-client privilege, illegally leaking to the press, repeatedly lying to the public, and illegally staging photos to blast to social media, tainting evidence in the process.Quote:
This whole thing was petty. Glad its over
"The Superseding Indictment is DISMISSED because Special Counsel Smith's appointment violates the Appointment's Clause of the United States Constitution."
Bye
Bye
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Sour puss Jack Smith is good at getting slapped around, getting kicke in the teeth via various U.S. courts.
He should get on a plane back to Europe and play lawyer over at The Hague.
He should get on a plane back to Europe and play lawyer over at The Hague.
Thanks hawg
Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
-Moderator
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AggieUSMC said:There's lots of delusional people on X but this guy takes the cake.damiond said:
lawfare libs already have a contingency planIf Judge Cannon dismisses the indictment because she finds Smith was unlawfully appointed, here’s what DOJ should do:
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
1) Don’t appeal
2) Have US Atty in FL refile the same charges in a new case - it would be very easy and fast
3) case gets reassigned- hopefully to a new judge 1/4) Smith’s prosecution team are designated as Special AUSA’s in FL to continue prosecuting the case.
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
I can’t see any reason this wouldn’t work - it’s faster than an appeal and gives them a chance of drawing a new judge without having to argue for removing Cannon. 2/
I have no idea who that guy is, but the administration clearly has a path forward on this charge by refiling and prosecuting it via the normal USAG route.
This ruling seems to be constitutionally correct, but it's a temporary reprieve at this point.
I don't think these charges should have ever been brought, and wouldn't have been brought against anyone other than Trump, but they can fairly easily be brought again despite this ruling.
Or they could take their lumps and move on. More lawfare may be their only winning move, but I don't think the American public is going to look favorably on it.DTP02 said:AggieUSMC said:There's lots of delusional people on X but this guy takes the cake.damiond said:
lawfare libs already have a contingency planIf Judge Cannon dismisses the indictment because she finds Smith was unlawfully appointed, here’s what DOJ should do:
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
1) Don’t appeal
2) Have US Atty in FL refile the same charges in a new case - it would be very easy and fast
3) case gets reassigned- hopefully to a new judge 1/4) Smith’s prosecution team are designated as Special AUSA’s in FL to continue prosecuting the case.
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
I can’t see any reason this wouldn’t work - it’s faster than an appeal and gives them a chance of drawing a new judge without having to argue for removing Cannon. 2/
I have no idea who that guy is, but the administration clearly has a path forward on this charge by refiling and prosecuting it under the normal USAG route.
This ruling seems to be constitutionally correct, but it's a temporary reprieve at this point.
Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
I got you. But I'm not going to be ugly to anyone anymore. Not that I'm being naive, but I'm taking the advice of my pastor after his surmon yesterday. What they did was wrong.
How much did this cost TRUMP and the tax payers. They should be required to pay Trumps fees for this crap
"If you got to tell em who you are, you ain't"
Pylon Cam said:
Step 1: Appoint biased judges who will bend over backwards to protect you.
Step 2: Commit crimes.
Step 3: Profit. In this case literally profit, off of stolen national secrets and security documents.
Why so many good Aggies support this narcissistic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and overall evil person is beyond me. Trump is the antithesis of our university's core values.
1).The Constitution has an appointments clause. Perhaps you should read it. This should have been cut and dry from the beginning. Jack Smith was never authorized by Congress to do anything.
2) No evidence of "literal profit" from NS information. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read on Reddit. Also please be aware that those pieces of paper covering the documents and marking them as classified were put there by the FBI during the raid for the purposes of photography and public dissemination. The documents being scattered all over the floor was also done by the FBI and were not found that way.
3) Trump has never been adjucated as a "rapist."
4) The felony convictions were result of a prosecutor twisting the law to apply to an alleged amorphous federal crime that was never adjucated at the federal level. This prosecutor ran for office on a platform of "getting Trump" and despite a huge fishing expedition this BS case based on bad legal theory is all he could muster. The third most powerful attorney in the United States Department of Justice resigned from his position to take a menial assistant prosecutor role in The Manhattan District Attorney's office to help Bragg in the prosecution. No one takes a huge step down in career like that without some incredible political motivation.
Pylon Cam said:
Step 1: Appoint biased judges who will bend over backwards to protect you.
Step 2: Commit crimes.
Step 3: Profit. In this case literally profit, off of stolen national secrets and security documents.
Why so many good Aggies support this narcissistic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and overall evil person is beyond me. Trump is the antithesis of our university's core values.
Cry. Harder. Such delicious tears.
Maybe don't bring BS cases and they won't unravel. Now back to getting your info from The View for you.
If they refile, it gives Trump the perfect opportunity to talk about Biden's case being dismissed because Biden was found to be mentally incompetent.
They bypassed the local FBI office and the local AG office for a reason. They wanted to control this case from DC.
As we move forward in Uniting our Nation after the horrific events on Saturday, this dismissal of the Lawless Indictment in Florida should be just the first step, followed quickly by the dismissal of ALL the Witch Hunts — The January 6th Hoax in Washington, D.C., the Manhattan…
— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) July 15, 2024
Ellis Wyatt said:Or they could take their lumps and move on. More lawfare may be their only winning move, but I don't think the American public is going to look favorably on it.DTP02 said:AggieUSMC said:There's lots of delusional people on X but this guy takes the cake.damiond said:
lawfare libs already have a contingency planIf Judge Cannon dismisses the indictment because she finds Smith was unlawfully appointed, here’s what DOJ should do:
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
1) Don’t appeal
2) Have US Atty in FL refile the same charges in a new case - it would be very easy and fast
3) case gets reassigned- hopefully to a new judge 1/4) Smith’s prosecution team are designated as Special AUSA’s in FL to continue prosecuting the case.
— Randall Eliason (@RDEliason) June 22, 2024
I can’t see any reason this wouldn’t work - it’s faster than an appeal and gives them a chance of drawing a new judge without having to argue for removing Cannon. 2/
I have no idea who that guy is, but the administration clearly has a path forward on this charge by refiling and prosecuting it under the normal USAG route.
This ruling seems to be constitutionally correct, but it's a temporary reprieve at this point.
We can hope. I'm not sure what makes more sense strategically for the current administration, in terms of impacting the election. I think their base would want it re-filed, some of the lefty comments on here and quoted tweets attest to that. . I'm not sure the right could be any more fired up at this point, so the real question politically is how the independents see it.
BREAKING: Given the recent decision by Judge Cannon regarding prosecutor Jack Smith’s “classified documents” case, the following can now be stated.
— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) July 15, 2024
1. A filed whistleblower complaint has Smith and other members close to him inside the DOJ under serious investigation by the DOJ…
Pylon Cam said:If you consider corruption and rulings not based in fact/law to be "good", then she'd be a great pick.nortex97 said:
Aileen could be a good pick for AG.
Then break it down "counselor".
In the Hunter Biden case, the prosecutor is the US Attorney for the District of Delaware. He was appointed by Trump, and confirmed by the Senate, and not fired when Biden took office. Garland appointed him as special prosecutor, so that he could file cases outside his jurisdiction and follow the Hunter trail wherever it leads. That's why he is the prosecutor for tax charges pending in California, despite it being out of Delaware.Charpie said:
Can someone explain how this will all work for other special prosecutors? I mean does this mean that they are ALL illegally appointed?
Smith, on the other hand, is not a US Attorney or deputy US Attorney. He holds no office created by statute. There was a special prosecutor statute in existence for 25 years (IIRC), but it lapsed (had a sunset date), and Congress has never passed another one. To fill the void, Janet Reno created some Justice Department rules for special prosecutors, but that agency action does not meet the constitutional requirements of the Appointments Clause according to Clarence Thomas in his concurrence in the immunity case, and now Judge Cook.
Keep it going! Make America Great Again!!!
Tell Garland to stop making illegal appointments. This has nothing to do with TrumpPylon Cam said:
Step 1: Appoint biased judges who will bend over backwards to protect you.
Step 2: Commit crimes.
Step 3: Profit. In this case literally profit, off of stolen national secrets and security documents.
Why so many good Aggies support this narcissistic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and overall evil person is beyond me. Trump is the antithesis of our university's core values.
The copium is strong...MiamiHopper said:
Finally. Now get this in front of a judge that knows what they are doing.
AtticusMatlock said:Pylon Cam said:
Step 1: Appoint biased judges who will bend over backwards to protect you.
Step 2: Commit crimes.
Step 3: Profit. In this case literally profit, off of stolen national secrets and security documents.
Why so many good Aggies support this narcissistic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and overall evil person is beyond me. Trump is the antithesis of our university's core values.
1).The Constitution has an appointments clause. Perhaps you should read it. This should have been cut and dry from the beginning. Jack Smith was never authorized by Congress to do anything.
2) No evidence of "literal profit" from NS information. Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read on Reddit. Also please be aware that those pieces of paper covering the documents and marking them as classified were put there by the FBI during the raid for the purposes of photography and public dissemination. The documents being scattered all over the floor was also done by the FBI and were not found that way.
3) Trump has never been adjucated as a "rapist."
4) The felony convictions were result of a prosecutor twisting the law to apply to an alleged amorphous federal crime that was never adjucated at the federal level. This prosecutor ran for office on a platform of "getting Trump" and despite a huge fishing expedition this BS case based on bad legal theory is all he could muster. The third most powerful attorney in the United States Department of Justice resigned from his position to take a menial assistant prosecutor role in The Manhattan District Attorney's office to help Bragg in the prosecution. No one takes a huge step down in career like that without some incredible political motivation.
Viper16 said:GOP friendly huh. So, you are insinuating she dismissed the case because she is a GOP friendly judge!Bunk Moreland said:fullback44 said:
I'm no expert on any of these Trump cases… I figured all these cases were just BS to stsrt with
This case was for sure. This judge, however, is a GOP friendly judge. DOJ was going to have to be perfect to get this past her, and obviously she took issue with how Smith was appointed to start with all of this.
To help you out, she basically dismissed the case because Jack Smith's appointment was unconstitutional/unlawful..
We could easily say Jack Smith is Democrat Friendly, which he is, but it would be pointless like your comment.
Some advice...Don't try to assume so much about a basic factual statement.
I said GOP friendly because, well for starters she was appointed by Trump, and more specifically with regards to the context of this and all the other cases...because she differs from the other judges in DC and NY who are doing the bidding of Biden and the Dems to take him down. I was agreeing with the person I replied to that they are all bs cases but pointing out the main reason this one was different.
Good grief some of yall wake up looking to be outraged.
What I expected the response would be. Outraged.....laughable.Bunk Moreland said:Viper16 said:GOP friendly huh. So, you are insinuating she dismissed the case because she is a GOP friendly judge!Bunk Moreland said:fullback44 said:
I'm no expert on any of these Trump cases… I figured all these cases were just BS to stsrt with
This case was for sure. This judge, however, is a GOP friendly judge. DOJ was going to have to be perfect to get this past her, and obviously she took issue with how Smith was appointed to start with all of this.
To help you out, she basically dismissed the case because Jack Smith's appointment was unconstitutional/unlawful..
We could easily say Jack Smith is Democrat Friendly, which he is, but it would be pointless like your comment.
Some advice...Don't try to assume so much about a basic factual statement.
I said GOP friendly because, well for starters she was appointed by Trump, and more specifically with regards to the context of this and all the other cases...because she differs from the other judges in DC and NY who are doing the bidding of Biden and the Dems to take him down. I was agreeing with the person I replied to that they are all bs cases but pointing out the main reason this one was different.
Good grief some of yall wake up looking to be outraged.
FTR:
If Jack Smith appeals the decision by Judge Cannon, it goes to the 11th Circuit, where Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas presides.
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) July 15, 2024
Game on, democrats. pic.twitter.com/efYo27cIGG
You do realize Biden was accused of the same documentation retention malfeasance, but was only not charged bc the prosecutor deemed him too senile?Pylon Cam said:
I can't think of a stupider thing to do politically than not to recharge him…letting a criminal get away with his crimes just because he's running for president would set an incredibly dangerous precedent.
If you actually cared about law and order, you would want Trump in prison where where he belongs. No one is above the law.
But you are ok with that very same senile president to appt a prosecutor to go after his top political rival for that crime?
And Biden has additional malfeasance since some of the documents were from his time as a Senator and should not have been removed from a SCIF.Aston04 said:You do realize Biden was accused of the same documentation retention malfeasance, but was only not charged bc the prosecutor deemed him too senile?Pylon Cam said:
I can't think of a stupider thing to do politically than not to recharge him…letting a criminal get away with his crimes just because he's running for president would set an incredibly dangerous precedent.
If you actually cared about law and order, you would want Trump in prison where where he belongs. No one is above the law.
But you are ok with that very same senile president to appt a prosecutor to go after his top political rival for that crime?
Haven't seen those particular people around recently.Ag with kids said:But, some people were so ADAMANT it was frivolous to allege this...aggiehawg said:
So that Ed Meese amicus had the legs I thought it did. Also didn't make sense that Trump would receive inel briefings while under indictment for espionage.
Yee-haw!
And when the appointment issues had been broached during the Mueller investigation and dismissed by courts reviewing it that was a very different fact situation. Mueller had, in the past, been Senate confirmed a few times. Also, Rosenstein was Senate confirmed and he was Mueller's superior and exercised supervision (such as it was) but Garland disavowed any control nor direction over Smith.
Fitzgerald, Durham, Hur and Weiss were all Senate confirmed US Attorneys.
Did Mueller prosecute anyone under his own name? Or were those farmed out to US Attorneys? I don't know.aggiehawg said:Haven't seen those particular people around recently.Ag with kids said:But, some people were so ADAMANT it was frivolous to allege this...aggiehawg said:
So that Ed Meese amicus had the legs I thought it did. Also didn't make sense that Trump would receive inel briefings while under indictment for espionage.
Yee-haw!
And when the appointment issues had been broached during the Mueller investigation and dismissed by courts reviewing it that was a very different fact situation. Mueller had, in the past, been Senate confirmed a few times. Also, Rosenstein was Senate confirmed and he was Mueller's superior and exercised supervision (such as it was) but Garland disavowed any control nor direction over Smith.
Fitzgerald, Durham, Hur and Weiss were all Senate confirmed US Attorneys.
will25u said:BREAKING: Given the recent decision by Judge Cannon regarding prosecutor Jack Smith’s “classified documents” case, the following can now be stated.
— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) July 15, 2024
1. A filed whistleblower complaint has Smith and other members close to him inside the DOJ under serious investigation by the DOJ…
I hope that's true. We need more whistleblowers to stand up and stay strong. Not surprised there are huge bribes being thrown around. And copying Elon on that post was brilliant.
Pylon Cam said:
Step 1: Appoint biased judges who will bend over backwards to protect you.
Step 2: Commit crimes.
Step 3: Profit. In this case literally profit, off of stolen national secrets and security documents.
Why so many good Aggies support this narcissistic convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and overall evil person is beyond me. Trump is the antithesis of our university's core values.
Good, never should have gone this far
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