Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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In reply to MarkTwain • 9:47p, 7/25/24
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MarkTwain said:
FTAG 2000 said:
It's not strange. Law enforcement moves weapons away from bad guys as a matter of procedure.


Exactly he was disarmed by the first officer there who had to literally pull it from his dead hands




So is that his left hand stuck in the trigger well?
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In reply to MarkTwain • 10:12p, 7/25/24
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MarkTwain said:
Decay said:
Yeah in that picture the grip and magazine is facing away towards the top. The red dot is sticking down and right. Down and left is maybe like charging handle or something?


Exactly



Almost looks like two separate optics there. Maybe a red dot with magnifier?
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In reply to JFABNRGR • 10:14p, 7/25/24
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Just putting his prints on the weapon.
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10:19p, 7/25/24
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Bongino said someone showed the vantage point of the CS with the kill shot. Has anyone seen that report
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In reply to swampstander • 10:47p, 7/25/24
The iron sights are flipped up.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 10:53p, 7/25/24
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Ellis Wyatt said:
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It is time for the new director to be brought into Congress for grilling and then summarily fired.
I pointed out in an entirely unrelated thread that there was a TFR around the rally that day.

What kind of drone was it? I know some will automatically geofence an area when one comes up. We've have DJIs do that before.

But, this also craps on the FAA requirement for Remote ID. I'm going to guess we will be having a BIG discussion at our next standards meeting with the government...
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In reply to Tom Fox • 11:00p, 7/25/24
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The iron sights are flipped up.


At least there's no shoulder thing that goes up
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In reply to GAC06 • 11:01p, 7/25/24
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Missing a bayonet, too.
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In reply to TexasRebel • 11:03p, 7/25/24
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Missing a bayonet, too.
And the chainsaw attachment.

Thank god he didn't have that!!!
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In reply to oh no • 12:29a, 7/26/24
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zgolfz85 said:
I don't understand what libs gain by claiming he wasn't hit directly? It was clearly an assassination attempt whether he was struck or not. It just makes them look petty. This is not a conspiracy theory with a payoff, it's just childish.
i think a belief that he wasn't directly shot would support their confirmation bias they were programmed with that Trump is just an actor and nothing more


I don't think many of them know how a bullet works and believe if it hit him in the ear, that it should have exploded like a missile and took off half his head.
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3:13a, 7/26/24
Here's a screenshot from the video I posted and given that bit of a shine on the red dot it might be this model Holosun AEMS. Regardless still no magnification

https://holosun.com/uploads/20210830/0d535ac15dbf7e6686efcbc5d095762b.pdf




“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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7:21a, 7/26/24
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In reply to will25u • 7:55a, 7/26/24
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will25u said:


He better make sure they record it and he records it. After RussiaGate and what happened to Flynn
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8:18a, 7/26/24
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Pretty harrowing to see how close he got and how easy of a shot it was


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In reply to will25u • 8:31a, 7/26/24
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will25u said:
What did Trump know and when did he know it??????
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In reply to will25u • 8:32a, 7/26/24
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will25u said:
Obligatory...

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In reply to will25u • 8:35a, 7/26/24
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will25u said:
Never trust the enemy
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In reply to will25u • 8:41a, 7/26/24
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.
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In reply to Tom Fox • 8:50a, 7/26/24
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.

But if they keep insisting, do it in writing with time for written responses filled with :"as I understand it," "my recolledtion at this time is," etc. But Trump really does not have any relevant information other than he was shot in the ear. Never saw the guy, was not receiving radio chatter before he took the stage, etc.
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9:06a, 7/26/24
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HAs any video emerged from people standing to Trump's left? Video where you could see that building in the background and the potential shooter. If there is I haven't seen it.
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In reply to 4stringAg • 9:08a, 7/26/24
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4stringAg said:
HAs any video emerged from people standing to Trump's left? Video where you could see that building in the background and the potential shooter. If there is I haven't seen it.

The FBI confiscated everyone's cell phones. They'll get them back but their vids will be gone.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 9:13a, 7/26/24
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aggiehawg said:
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:26a, 7/26/24
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aggiehawg said:
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
Unless his statement was in court, lying to local/state cops is usually a very minor infraction. Lying to federal agents is a federal felony likely to result in a stint in the BOP.

There is zero reason for Trump tp talk with the FBI. Zero.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:45a, 7/26/24
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Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
Yes. Michael Flynn, who was a victim of an entrapment scheme by the FBI which the FBI director admitted to.
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9:51a, 7/26/24
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Surprised they've already taken down the stage and stands. No longer possible for 3rd parties to do independent assessments of trajectories.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:55a, 7/26/24
Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
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That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
Ummmm... have you seen how they've treated Trump since he came down that escalator?
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 9:57a, 7/26/24
That won't cause anyone to question the FBI's investigation….
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In reply to swampstander • 10:04a, 7/26/24
swampstander said:
MarkTwain said:
Decay said:
Yeah in that picture the grip and magazine is facing away towards the top. The red dot is sticking down and right. Down and left is maybe like charging handle or something?


Exactly



Almost looks like two separate optics there. Maybe a red dot with magnifier?
That's what I said. That's the setup I have and it just looked familiar to me (I realize I could be wrong...it's a grainy pic). But apparently I am dumb for thinking that could possibly be the case.

EDIT: I think I stand corrected. Just saw the non grainy image and looks much different to me. Looks like just red dot.

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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 10:10a, 7/26/24
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you just say that because you don't have the correct grips on you CZ Shadow 2.
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In reply to nortex97 • 10:10a, 7/26/24
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nortex97 said:
Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
Quote:
That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
Yes. Michael Flynn, who was a victim of an entrapment scheme by the FBI which the FBI director admitted to.
Flynn was not making statements as the victim of a crime.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 10:11a, 7/26/24
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Guitarsoup said:
nortex97 said:
Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
Quote:
That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?
Yes. Michael Flynn, who was a victim of an entrapment scheme by the FBI which the FBI director admitted to.
Flynn was not making statements as the victim of a crime.
He was in the process of becoming a victim of the crime. Not much of a distinction.

Edit: and the whole purpose of the questioning (or investigation) was to induce him to make a false statement, which they then ludicrously claimed misled the investigation, so that they could prosecute him/get him removed from his job. Their notes afterward even admitted they didn't think he felt he was making a false statement.

That's the parallel.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 10:24a, 7/26/24
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Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
Quote:
That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?


Has anyone been prosecuted for claiming an NDA expense as legal expense?

Has anyone been impeached for making a phone call?

Has anyone been persecuted for putting the value on a loan document that matched the banks valuation?

Has anyone ever been spies on due to these ass wipes lying to a FISA court?

LMAO.

If there is no reason the FEDs need to talk to Trump, you question it because of their very recent track record.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 11:31a, 7/26/24
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Guitarsoup said:
aggiehawg said:
Quote:
That would be stupid. The shooter is dead. There will not be a criminal prosecution.

Perjury trap. Don't need a victim statement when there will be no prosecution nor sentencing of the perp.
This is ridiculous. Has any actual victim (not a Jussie Smollett) ever been prosecuted for perjury for their victim statement?


If you look at his rape conviction and real estate fraud conviction in NY and don't see why he should avoid those guys like the plague, not sure anything would convince you. No reason to speak with the fbi and no way I would except under my own strictest of terms.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 12:16p, 7/26/24
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FTAG 2000 said:
4stringAg said:
HAs any video emerged from people standing to Trump's left? Video where you could see that building in the background and the potential shooter. If there is I haven't seen it.

The FBI confiscated everyone's cell phones. They'll get them back but their vids will be gone.


A lot of people have their phones set to automatically upload photos and videos to cloud storage. Speaking from personal experience, as soon as I take a photo or video, it gets uploaded to my Google photos account. Should be data out there, not to mention they aren't going to go through the motions of cracking everyone's cell phone just to wipe some videos... we've seen how painful it is for them to even crack a single phone of a terrorist or other perp when lives are on the line. Now reduce that sense of urgency and multiply by hundreds of devices with varying levels of security controls and encryption.
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