Shots fired at Trump [Keep it factual -- Staff]

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In reply to birdman • 5:05p, 7/24/24
birdman said:
The whole "we aren't trained as counter snipers" is ridiculous.

You could have plopped the retired police chief from Beaver Falls on that roof in a lawn chain and problem solved.

That kid wasn't going to go up there and get in a gun fight. He looked for an obvious weakness and found it. And it happened to be the best place to take a shot from.
That's what gets me man.

The stars align and this kid goes full Leroy Jenkins.

Somehow managed to get off an uncontested perfect shot on Trump and then seven more shots.

The factual timeline is such that he scrambles on the roof at the exact moment the two guys in position to see him inexplicably abandon their post. There's simply no arguing around that fact.

The two overwatch people downstairs while the shooter circles around upstairs. Some real Tom & Jerry **** right there.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 5:22p, 7/24/24
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
birdman said:
The whole "we aren't trained as counter snipers" is ridiculous.

You could have plopped the retired police chief from Beaver Falls on that roof in a lawn chain and problem solved.

That kid wasn't going to go up there and get in a gun fight. He looked for an obvious weakness and found it. And it happened to be the best place to take a shot from.
That's what gets me man.

The stars align and this kid goes full Leroy Jenkins.

Somehow managed to get off an uncontested perfect shot on Trump and then seven more shots.

The factual timeline is such that he scrambles on the roof at the exact moment the two guys in position to see him inexplicably abandon their post. There's simply no arguing around that fact.

The two overwatch people downstairs while the shooter circles around upstairs. Some real Tom & Jerry **** right there.
Just a mannequin with head on a swivel, dressed in uniform sitting in a chair with a rubber ducky. Just like they put empty police cars along the freewaysto get people to slow down.
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5:41p, 7/24/24




Interesting new information about the shooter. Looks like he had a Gab account that was not scrubbed.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 5:50p, 7/24/24
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Interesting new information about the shooter. Looks like he had a Gab account that was not scrubbed.
Help an Ol' Dame out here. Wray said today that the "gamer account" associated with Crooks was a fake account created after July 13th. This is a separate platform that existed before July 13?
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In reply to aggiehawg • 5:52p, 7/24/24
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Interesting new information about the shooter. Looks like he had a Gab account that was not scrubbed.
Help an Ol' Dame out here. Wray said today that the "gamer account" associated with Crooks was a fake account created after July 13th. This is a separate platform that existed before July 13?


Gab is not a gamer website, it's like Twitter.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 5:53p, 7/24/24
I think the gamer account was on the Steam platform.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 5:53p, 7/24/24
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Thanks. Hard to keep up with all of that. Appreciate it.
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In reply to drcrinum • 7:28p, 7/24/24
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drcrinum said:



Iran?



Where is Valerie Jarret???
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 7:53p, 7/24/24
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drcrinum said:



Iran?



Where is Valerie Jarret???
Busy speaking into Biden's earpiece telling him what he is going to say tonight.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 8:20p, 7/24/24
Damn man. Me and you need to sit down and visit over a beer.

Have always liked your commentary on stuff here.

Meet you in Moscow at a time and date TBD.
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In reply to Ag by Association • 9:18p, 7/24/24
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In reply to SpreadsheetAg • 10:58a, 7/25/24
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drcrinum said:



Iran?



Where is Valerie Jarret???
Don't know, but American leadership has in no way disavowed Iran, nor have they used the harsh language that they use towards Israel and Netanyahu. Crazy, huh?
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12:01p, 7/25/24
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Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:01p, 7/25/24
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It is time for the new director to be brought into Congress for grilling and then summarily fired.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:08p, 7/25/24
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Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE
It almost doesn't matter from that range imo. Looks like there is a scope on there, so if it was even decently sighted in, it would not be hard to land a head shot from 130-140 yds. Heard so many rumors of iron sights, which does not appear to be the case, from that picture.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:08p, 7/25/24
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It is time for the new director to be brought into Congress for grilling and then summarily fired.
I am unclear if the new Acting Director was on the Trump/Butler, PA team? He might not have been in the loop on that one if he had been on the NATO meeting team.
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In reply to Ag by Association • 12:10p, 7/25/24
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Damn man. Me and you need to sit down and visit over a beer.

Have always liked your commentary on stuff here.

Meet you in Moscow at a time and date TBD.


SMR is the first person id grab lunch with from this board, without a doubt.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:10p, 7/25/24
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It is time for the new director to be brought into Congress for grilling and then summarily fired.
I am unclear if the new Acting Director was on the Trump/Butler, PA team? He might not have been in the loop on that one if he had been on the NATO meeting team.
Dan Bongino knows him and said he is worse than Cheatle. And he has heavily implied that this guy is the one who repeatedly denied requests for enhanced security for Trump.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:12p, 7/25/24
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Thanks. Did not catch that one from Bongino.
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 12:13p, 7/25/24
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Ellis Wyatt said:
aggiehawg said:
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It is time for the new director to be brought into Congress for grilling and then summarily fired.
I am unclear if the new Acting Director was on the Trump/Butler, PA team? He might not have been in the loop on that one if he had been on the NATO meeting team.
Dan Bongino knows him and said he is worse than Cheatle. And he has heavily implied that this guy is the one who repeatedly denied requests for enhanced security for Trump.
So why are they not just going to the source and asking the SAC to testify? Would put to bed all of these "I don't have that information" answers.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 12:14p, 7/25/24
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not


“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 12:15p, 7/25/24
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El Gallo Blanco said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE
It almost doesn't matter from that range imo. Looks like there is a scope on there, so if it was even decently sighted in, it would not be hard to land a head shot from 130-140 yds. Heard so many rumors of iron sights, which does not appear to be the case, from that picture.


So you think Trump dodged the bullet or the guy missed? Which one?
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In reply to MarkTwain • 12:20p, 7/25/24
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MarkTwain said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not



Red dot. Can be accurate if sighted in correctly. No magnification but the bullet hits where the dot is. Similar to iron sights in that no magnification unless one is equipped, but it's easier to see the little glowing dot than lining up the iron sights.
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:24p, 7/25/24
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Ag by Association said:
Damn man. Me and you need to sit down and visit over a beer.

Have always liked your commentary on stuff here.

Meet you in Moscow at a time and date TBD.


SMR is the first person id grab lunch with from this board, without a doubt.
Same...I bet he even drinks something cool.
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In reply to ANSC Ag • 12:25p, 7/25/24
ANSC Ag said:
El Gallo Blanco said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE
It almost doesn't matter from that range imo. Looks like there is a scope on there, so if it was even decently sighted in, it would not be hard to land a head shot from 130-140 yds. Heard so many rumors of iron sights, which does not appear to be the case, from that picture.


So you think Trump dodged the bullet or the guy missed? Which one?
Trump dodged with head turn imo. To me that is obvious. Otherwise it would have been a kill shot and I don't even like to imagine what this nation is like right now.
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In reply to techno-ag • 12:27p, 7/25/24
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techno-ag said:
MarkTwain said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not



Red dot. Can be accurate if sighted in correctly. No magnification but the bullet hits where the dot is. Similar to iron sights in that no magnification unless one is equipped, but it's easier to see the little glowing dot than lining up the iron sights.



Just as a point on how capable a shooter can be with a simple dot. Aaron Hayes who owns Hayes Customs, can rapidly shoot a 24" steel plate at 600 yards with just a dot, no magnification .

Now he is a professional shooter and the kid was not, but it's possible for trained people to do a lot with simple gear.
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In reply to MarkTwain • 12:28p, 7/25/24
MarkTwain said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not


To me it looks like the mag is on the bottom and scope on top...either that, or red dot, with magnifier (like I have).

It doesn't look like a small standard red dot optic alone to me...that being said, it's not the best image, and at 43, my eyes are just starting to degrade a bit.
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In reply to Madman • 12:29p, 7/25/24
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Madman said:
techno-ag said:
MarkTwain said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not



Red dot. Can be accurate if sighted in correctly. No magnification but the bullet hits where the dot is. Similar to iron sights in that no magnification unless one is equipped, but it's easier to see the little glowing dot than lining up the iron sights.



Just as a point on how capable a shooter can be with a simple dot. Aaron Hayes who owns Hayes Customs, can rapidly shoot a 24" steel plate at 600 yards with just a dot, no magnification .

Now he is a professional shooter and the kid was not, but it's possible for trained people to do a lot with simple gear.


Shooter was a regular at a gun range / club, I think that's more practice than 99% of Americans. Shooter was on target and Trump's head turn prevented death. Shooter had more than enough talent to kill at that range and even further.
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 12:41p, 7/25/24
El Gallo Blanco said:
MarkTwain said:
aggiehawg said:


Can someone identify the type of scope here?

Source of picture is HERE



It appears to be this type of optics that has been widely mislabeled as a scope by many. Scopes generally have some level of magnification level. These types of optics do not


To me it looks like the mag is on the bottom and scope on top...either that, or red dot, with magnifier (like I have).

It doesn't look like a small standard red dot optic alone to me...that being said, it's not the best image, and at 43, my eyes are just starting to degrade a bit.



Geez do you know how many variations of red dot optics there are?

Here's another still no magnification


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12:43p, 7/25/24
Pat Fallon recreated the possibility of the shot using his own AR and a red dot at 130 yds prone on a slight pitch and hit 9 of 10 and his one miss would have hit the ear.
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12:51p, 7/25/24
I'll admit right up front that I am a number of pages behind; but has anyone addressed the issue of Wray saying they don't know if Trump was actually hit by a bullet? WTH?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-director-says-theres-some-question-over-what-struck-trumps-ear/ar-BB1qCAaM?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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In reply to newsjunkie • 12:53p, 7/25/24
newsjunkie said:
I'll admit right up front that I am a number of pages behind; but has anyone addressed the issue of Wray saying they don't know if Trump was actually hit by a bullet? WTH?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-director-says-theres-some-question-over-what-struck-trumps-ear/ar-BB1qCAaM?ocid=BingNewsSerp



It hasn't been addressed because it's nonsense he didn't even say. The Daily Mail tried to start the narrative and the lazy MSM just quoted them.
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In reply to MarkTwain • 12:55p, 7/25/24
Ah, thanks so much. Should've known with the MSN tag line.
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In reply to newsjunkie • 1:00p, 7/25/24
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I'll admit right up front that I am a number of pages behind; but has anyone addressed the issue of Wray saying they don't know if Trump was actually hit by a bullet? WTH?
It's bull***** Same basic bull**** a couple of morons tried to peddle here a couple of days ago.
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