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Naw man, that's just what "they" want you to know about the new narrative that other shot was the second shooter aiming at snipers and the crowds!

Read between the lines maaaan
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drcrinum said:





The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?
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So there should be at least one hole in the metal roof. Flex-Seal tape FTMFW.
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VegasAg86 said:

drcrinum said:





The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?


I think Pennsylvania State police were there too, maybe one of their snipers shot and missed...From everything I have seen, the local PD was just there to control traffic, and they got pulled in by the bystanders that were seeing the assassin climbing the roof so they went to investigate.
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How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
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BuddysBud said:

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Agreed on all that. I'm hung up on the last possible moment. The very last clear chance to avoid imminent disaster which was the time between pointing a rifle at a cop and shots fired. All the timelines we've seen so far seem to omit that key fact.

But it's clear that we looking at failures stacked on top of failures here as you describe.
That is defined as "immediately after" by the police that fell off the roof.

A second? A min?
Somehow that key fact eludes us.

1. How many seconds elapsed between somebody pointing a rifle at the cop and Trump getting shot in the ear?

2. Did either one of the two cops involved in peeking over the roof get on the radio and call in an IMMINENT threat over the radio?

3. If they did immediately call it in, exactly how many seconds elapsed between USSS being on notice of an IMMINENT threat and Trump being shot in ear?


For item 2, a local authority, the sheriff I believe, said that both officers radioed about the shooter immediately after the officer fell off the roof. He said that they were on an open channel that should have been heard by all in site LEO, including the SS.

At that point, the SS should have surrounded Trump and pulled him off. That was probably the sixth or seventh chance they had to prevent the shooting.
With what they knew, the start of Trump's program should had been delayed. Trump should have been pulled off several minutes before the shooting based upon actions that caused the policeman to check the roof and people in the crowd yelling.

To rehash what has been said 100 times already, it either was total and complete incompetence by the SS, or it was intentionally set up to assassinate a political rival.

If the FBI and SS and the Biden administration have their way, we will never know which one for certain because both options make them look bad.


The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.

https://forums.radioreference.com/threads/trump-shooting-coverage.476111/
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.

We are up to 10 shots now? Lol…what a joke…
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Quote:

The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.


Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.


Yup and if you believe that's not exactly what happened then yOu'Re a CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiSt!!!
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Raiderjay said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....

It shows the incompetence of the USSS more than anything else.
Trump will fix it.
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Raiderjay said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....
Your 10-y/o nephew wouldn't attempt what this guy did in Call of Duty because he would get taken out in 3 milliseconds by someone with a $8000 gaming rig.

What we just saw is the equivalent of a kid dominating Call of Duty running on a 1982 ColecoVision console.

It's inexplicable.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.


Yep. I just can't get there. I was initially on the incompetence wagon, but there simply has to be more to this
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zgolfz85 said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.


Yep. I just can't get there. I was initially on the incompetence wagon, but there simply has to be more to this


And, add all they have done to Trump already, and all the lies they've told us and all the actions that were deemed "conspiracy theories" that were proven to be true.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 8 times, well go **** yourself.
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So we are to now believe two things: a local PD sniper missed the gunman lying flat on a roof and the shot the USSS took was a one in a million shot?
So these shots were reasonable and two snipers within 200 yards had a miss and the other was nearly impossible?

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aggiehawg said:

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The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.
Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

aggiehawg said:

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The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.
Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.
Meaning the SAIC (Special Agent in Charge) failed to react and pass on that info to the protective detail. Who was the SAIC?
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Crazy point:

The shooter used a drone, the USSS didn't.....
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aggiehawg said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

aggiehawg said:

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The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.
Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.
Meaning the SAIC (Special Agent in Charge) failed to react and pass on that info to the protective detail. Who was the SAIC?
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.


I mean this is what happened based on the evidence out there. Combined with incompetence and complacency from the people in charge.
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techno-ag said:

Raiderjay said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....

It shows the incompetence of the USSS more than anything else.


But how much was intentional "incompetence"? I do think there has been an intentionally lax approach to protecting Trump, with direction coming from high in our govt. Understaffed. Under qualified.

They set the table and were just waiting for a nutter to finally come along, leaving themselves plausible deniability in the end
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I mean this is what happened based on the evidence out there. Combined with incompetence and complacency from the people in charge.
Goes all the way back to the advance team. They had to have done a very scaled back site plan...for some reason.
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VegasAg86 said:

drcrinum said:





The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?


A few days ago we discussed that the local snipe team was/was supposed to be on the roof but they ended up setting up inside on the second floor of the building adjacent to the roof where the shooter was set up.

To miss from that position they must have had Mr Magoo for the sniper. The shooter should have been in spear range from that sniper location.
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Agreed. And they only took one shot. Just one. With a 5mph crosswind. With something .300 or more powerful - and missed from short range? Unless they were using a 5.55 rifle - in which case what the hell??
I don't think there was a second sniper - the first round cracked by Trumps ear and he paused. If there was a skilled sniper, the next two rounds wouldn't have missed. They need to open up on who shot what and when.
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The sniper from PA state force has been suspended for several days. It was for standard discharge of weapon. PA spokesman said they weren't sure if sniper bullet hit but that he fired his official.

Don't worry about the trees blocking the sniper view. Hypothetical example - Sniper team 1 looks east. Team 2 covers north and west. Team 3 looks everywhere else. If one of those these is blocked to see something, that's okay. As long as every spot can be covered by somebody, and we know whose responsibility it is.

Just make sure that somebody can see every area.
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20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.

What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.

The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.
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HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

HarryJ33tamu said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?

A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.

The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.


Yup and if you believe that's not exactly what happened then yOu'Re a CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiSt!!!

No, if you swear he was only a patsy, never fired a shot, was intentionally seen, a shot came from behind him for a guy in a tree stand and another shooter who zip lined from a water tower after shooting only the stands….then your a conspiracy theorist
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BuddysBud said:

VegasAg86 said:

drcrinum said:





The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?


A few days ago we discussed that the local snipe team was/was supposed to be on the roof but they ended up setting up inside on the second floor of the building adjacent to the roof where the shooter was set up.

To miss from that position they must have had Mr Magoo for the sniper. The shooter should have been in spear range from that sniper location.

What I read is they were to be counter sniper on the roof. The local team is a sniper team not counter sniper trained and could do their sniper job from inside.

At that point SS should have pivoted and replaced the roof team but they didn't and allowed the roof to be open
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agent-maroon said:

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20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.

What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.

The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.

Former….

That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

agent-maroon said:

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20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.

What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.

The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.

Former….

That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president



This is a perfect illustration of why it is a waste of time to engage Libs
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Schneider Electric said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

agent-maroon said:

Quote:

20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.

What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.

The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.

Former….

That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president



This is a perfect illustration of why it is a waste of time to engage Libs
are you saying I'm a lib?

That's a first
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SIAP.. I am a few hundred posts behind....


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