drcrinum said:BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 20, 2024
The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking… pic.twitter.com/3B0K7GV6ki
VegasAg86 said:drcrinum said:BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 20, 2024
The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking… pic.twitter.com/3B0K7GV6ki
The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?
BuddysBud said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:Somehow that key fact eludes us.Science Denier said:That is defined as "immediately after" by the police that fell off the roof.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Agreed on all that. I'm hung up on the last possible moment. The very last clear chance to avoid imminent disaster which was the time between pointing a rifle at a cop and shots fired. All the timelines we've seen so far seem to omit that key fact.
But it's clear that we looking at failures stacked on top of failures here as you describe.
A second? A min?
1. How many seconds elapsed between somebody pointing a rifle at the cop and Trump getting shot in the ear?
2. Did either one of the two cops involved in peeking over the roof get on the radio and call in an IMMINENT threat over the radio?
3. If they did immediately call it in, exactly how many seconds elapsed between USSS being on notice of an IMMINENT threat and Trump being shot in ear?
For item 2, a local authority, the sheriff I believe, said that both officers radioed about the shooter immediately after the officer fell off the roof. He said that they were on an open channel that should have been heard by all in site LEO, including the SS.
At that point, the SS should have surrounded Trump and pulled him off. That was probably the sixth or seventh chance they had to prevent the shooting.
With what they knew, the start of Trump's program should had been delayed. Trump should have been pulled off several minutes before the shooting based upon actions that caused the policeman to check the roof and people in the crowd yelling.
To rehash what has been said 100 times already, it either was total and complete incompetence by the SS, or it was intentionally set up to assassinate a political rival.
If the FBI and SS and the Biden administration have their way, we will never know which one for certain because both options make them look bad.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.Quote:
The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Raiderjay said:this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Your 10-y/o nephew wouldn't attempt what this guy did in Call of Duty because he would get taken out in 3 milliseconds by someone with a $8000 gaming rig.Raiderjay said:this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
zgolfz85 said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Yep. I just can't get there. I was initially on the incompetence wagon, but there simply has to be more to this
Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.aggiehawg said:Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.Quote:
The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Meaning the SAIC (Special Agent in Charge) failed to react and pass on that info to the protective detail. Who was the SAIC?Stat Monitor Repairman said:Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.aggiehawg said:Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.Quote:
The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
aggiehawg said:Meaning the SAIC (Special Agent in Charge) failed to react and pass on that info to the protective detail. Who was the SAIC?Stat Monitor Repairman said:Officer who first spotted the gunman called the command center a full 26 minutes before Trump was shot.aggiehawg said:Liasions with all agencies are in that room and monitor their comms passing on any critical information to their cohorts. Also in the command center are the maps with the grids/zoes where LEOs are stationed or scanning around a designated area.Quote:
The sites broadcastify.com and the related radioreference.com are where the police scanner nerds hang out these days. This is a pretty good thread explaining the onsite comms plan between local LE and USSS. The consensus seems to be that local cops do not communicate directly with USSS on a shared channel, but there was an on-site command post where a human operator would have been relaying messages as needed.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
techno-ag said:Raiderjay said:this is why people are going conspiracy crazy on this thing, cause none of that makes any sense.....Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
It shows the incompetence of the USSS more than anything else.
Goes all the way back to the advance team. They had to have done a very scaled back site plan...for some reason.Quote:
I mean this is what happened based on the evidence out there. Combined with incompetence and complacency from the people in charge.
VegasAg86 said:drcrinum said:BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 20, 2024
The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking… pic.twitter.com/3B0K7GV6ki
The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?
Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.Quote:
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
HarryJ33tamu said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.HarryJ33tamu said:Was it the local LE sniper hindered by trees? If so, could explain the miss. If he was hindered by trees to the closest rooftop, why was he set up there?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
How does a local LE professional sniper with superior optics, a superior weapon system, superior ballistics, superior training and a fixed and stable shooting position miss?
A professional sniper misses while a 20-year old kid on a dangerously sloped hot tin roof executes a perfect shot on shot #1.
The 15 seconds that elapses between first shot and 10th and final shot is inexplicable.
Yup and if you believe that's not exactly what happened then yOu'Re a CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRiSt!!!
BuddysBud said:VegasAg86 said:drcrinum said:BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 20, 2024
The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking… pic.twitter.com/3B0K7GV6ki
The local PD claims they weren't security, they only had 7 guys there doing traffic. Who runs this team?
A few days ago we discussed that the local snipe team was/was supposed to be on the roof but they ended up setting up inside on the second floor of the building adjacent to the roof where the shooter was set up.
To miss from that position they must have had Mr Magoo for the sniper. The shooter should have been in spear range from that sniper location.
agent-maroon said:Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.Quote:
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.
The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.
Lonestar_Ag09 said:agent-maroon said:Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.Quote:
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.
The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.
Former….
That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president
are you saying I'm a lib?Schneider Electric said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:agent-maroon said:Say that out loud if you still think he just got lucky. He would have had a more difficult time executing a plan to buy a six pack of beer on Friday night, yet on Saturday he shot and nearly assassinated a POTUS.Quote:
20-y/o kid with an Amazon drone, golf range finder and collapsable ladder from Home Depot, off the shelf ammo from Guns 'R Us and his dad's off the shelf AR manages to select a superior shooting position and evade multiple teams of professional counter-snipers equipped with every conceivable advantage but still manages to shoot prone from a sloped hot-tin roof while scaring off a cop just seconds before and score a direct hit from 140-yards on a roof in plane view of God and everybody.
What's our first official communication from the people who supposedly safeguard our highest elected officials and technically our entire system of government? A memo telling us to stop being mean to female agents.
The world's a dangerous place and 95% of the planet would love to see our great political experiment go away. We need some adults in charge and we need them now.
Former….
That's exactly why his detail sucked. He was being treated as a former President not the presumed next president
This is a perfect illustration of why it is a waste of time to engage Libs
WOW
— CoolBlue (@BackThebluecool) July 20, 2024
This is probably the most in depth
analysis l've seen of what Crooks was able to pull off at the Trump Rally in Butler, PA.
The Director of Secret Service Kimberly Cheatle and Mayorkas must be fired immediately for their lack of transparency.
Rest in peace, Corey… pic.twitter.com/AOfc5NV38L