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Opinions some don't like about theories that haven't been proven or disproven, even if unlikely, but are getting a lot of discussion on X: don't deserve a response / need to be taken out as "trash" / need moderation on the discussion forum?

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Agreed on this issue.

If you reading this and struggling to keep up then perhaps this thread isn't the best place for you.

There is no arbiter of truth here.

Nobody knows what the hell is going on with this. You arrive at the truth by fleshing it out and scrutinizing it.

Thats what happened with the photographer.

Somebody posted a theory, we heard from some experts and the issue is now resolved. That's the deliberative process working.

Trying to pick and choose whats relevant or might be relevant is the same as people forcing others to call them by their pronouns. In other words the majority bending over to accommodate the needs of a few.

If folks can't keep up you got infinite other options. No reason to pee in the sandbox.

I dont think they're struggling to keep up.

In fact, I think it's the opposite. The frustrated posters are able to flesh out a ridiculous theory/talking points much sooner than others...but have to sift through pages of meritless speculation, instead of discussing new facts, etc.

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People who want to be therapists are often…messed up (ah, the Soprano's…). And let's face it, therapists also often encourage the use of SSRI's, which I think would be a very useful data point…we won't be given any time this year/ever about Crooks.

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Therapists usually do not have an opinion on medication, that is the job of a psychiatrist. In America they did to be too eager to prescribe brain rotting drugs that can cause a lot of harm and often turn people into zombies. There is research out there about the link between mass shooters (non gang/cartel) and SSRIs. In the case of this shooter, I would like to know if his parents were simply therapists or if they had the power to prescribe medicine and/or they pushed medication on him. I also want to know what he was on. A good therapist is neutral about medication but some are over zealous and really push their patients to see psychiatrist for meds instead of putting in the work to heal from trauma and work through the struggles via diet, exercise, and strategy.

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I dont think they're struggling to keep up.

In fact, I think the frustrated posters are able to flesh out a ridiculous theory/talking points much sooner than others...but have to sift through pages of meritless speculation, in stead of discussing new facts, etc.

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Welcome to texags

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AgGrad99 said:

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I dont think they're struggling to keep up.

In fact, I think the frustrated posters are able to flesh out a ridiculous theory/talking points much sooner than others...but have to sift through pages of meritless speculation, in stead of discussing new facts, etc.

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Welcome to texags

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Yea, I think it's a little humorous that the trans picture and subsequent derail (which is not verified and has no source) came from a longhorn.

How typical.

It would explain the hair though.

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

nortex97 said:

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People who want to be therapists are often…messed up (ah, the Soprano's…). And let's face it, therapists also often encourage the use of SSRI's, which I think would be a very useful data point…we won't be given any time this year/ever about Crooks.

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I know of a guy that councils teen age kids that commit crimes, many of the crimes are sexual related .. the dude has a sex problem, he must get with 3-4 girls a week .. that's his choice but he's over there counseling kids on sex related crimes .. lol .. crazy stuff .. the fox counseling the chicken in the hen house

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

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Listening to more of the exchange, she was in the hospitality suite thank what she called "donors." So does the SS solicit donations? That sounds weird to me.

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

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Listening to more of the exchange, she was in the hospitality suite thank what she called "donors." So does the SS solicit donations? That sounds weird to me.

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She's certainly at the center of all this. Do we expect her to actually show up on Monday per the House
subpoena?

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

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Listening to more of the exchange, she was in the hospitality suite thank what she called "donors." So does the SS solicit donations? That sounds weird to me.

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Maybe raising Secret Service NIL funds?

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to be fair, when I go, "he hated politicians" might be in my obit.

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I've seen some folks say some version of "if he hated politicians, why would he try to kill trump? he should like trump because he's an outsider/not a politician/etc." which for those of us over 30 might seem true, but trump has been the most famous politician in the world since the shooter was old enough to be aware of politics

makes me wonder if very young adults like the shooter are starting to see trump as a status-quo just-another-politician since he's been around for half their lives.

More than likely, she's referring to campaign donors....

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More than likely, she's referring to campaign donors....

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At the RNC? Or do you mean donors to the RNC Convention?

So the plot was to have this kid walk around for half an hour and find a spot to shoot from?

Thats 4D planning by the conspirators. Nobody would ever suspect something so outragious.

I think we're going to need the outdoor board to unravel this one.

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-assassination-attempt-investigation-continues-new-details/story?id=112020474

The more we know, the worse it gets.

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Law enforcement officials investigating the assassination attempt on Donald Trump told lawmakers Wednesday that 20 minutes passed between the time U.S. Secret Service snipers first spotted the gunman on a rooftop and the time shots were fired at the former president, according to several law enforcement officials and lawmakers briefed on the matter.

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Twenty minutes eyes on the perp.

Yet they allowed the former POTUS on the stage to speak and give that idiot a free line of fire.

Things like this contribute to the thought that something much more sinister is going on.

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Occam's Razor 101

double post

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Yeah he's a very good photographer who also got lucky. Trump gave a very Trumpy paise of his work a few years ago I read "The best. A genius photographer, a magician with a camera.' or something like that.

And when they are taking those pictures nowadays and hit click on the high end DSLR camera they bring, it takes like 10 or 20 in a row I believe. I think, but could be wrong, the camera even uploads images to the cloud (over time) automatically to be edited later, so they also aren't limited by the onboard flash storage even at this point.

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Pro cameras today are mirrorless dslr and are capable of shooting much higher speeds than 10-20 in a row

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You can't have a mirrorless DSLR.

Single Lens Reflex = mirror.

Somewhere there's some written rules of engagement.

And somebody had to sign off on those rules of engagement.

That should be question 1 and 2 at any hearing on this.

#3 would be to look at the rules of engagement as it pertains to Trump and look to see whether those rules changed over time.

That they ostensibly watched the guy set up for 20-minutes while on the phone with DC is incredulous.

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aggiehawg said:

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

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Listening to more of the exchange, she was in the hospitality suite thank what she called "donors." So does the SS solicit donations? That sounds weird to me.

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She's certainly at the center of all this. Do we expect her to actually show up on Monday per the House
subpoena?

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If this lady doesn't show for a congressional subpoena then we got to assume that it confirms what we already know.

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The Secret Service has separate physical standards for men and women agents. They are admitting that DEI is more important than competence. This is a recipe for disaster—and, if he is elected, President Trump must abolish DEI from the federal government.https://t.co/fgjcM8juKq pic.twitter.com/lbOFgMNo0F

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) July 15, 2024

This must be how the DEI Hamburgler who was hiding behind Trump got a job.

Absolutely ridiculous. Fundamental change.

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FIFY

BadMoonRisin said:

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The Secret Service has separate physical standards for men and women agents. They are admitting that DEI is more important than competence. This is a recipe for disaster—and, if he is elected, President Trump must abolish DEI from the federal government.https://t.co/fgjcM8juKq pic.twitter.com/lbOFgMNo0F

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) July 15, 2024

This must be how the DEI Hamburgler who was hiding behind Trump got a job.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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No

When you are a woman secret service head it means one of three things

A you're the baddest woman on the planet because you're basically taking the job of a soldier

B you been moved to the front of the line and it means that you will return favors whatever is asked

C you sucked a lot of ...... To get where you are.

I believe B

I appreciate the info!

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Aren't the cops and secret service supposed to be watching for suspicious people like this.

How did they not assign someone to shadow this guy.

It's inconceivable.

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What's more amazing is nothing has been mentioned about them even confronting him or inquiring about the range finder. That's a level of fail beyond incompetence.

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I don't know. It was not illegal or prohibited to bring in. It only looks bad after the fact.

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clearly incorrect

the fact he had a range finder led the Secret Service and Law Enforcement, as incompetent as they were -

to discuss him and try to take pictures of him and follow him. for more than an hour they were looking around for him as a suspicious figure

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I agree the range finder put him on their radar initially. That is documented. However, I'm not so sure it was a prohibited item.

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Yeah he's a very good photographer who also got lucky. Trump gave a very Trumpy paise of his work a few years ago I read "The best. A genius photographer, a magician with a camera.' or something like that.

And when they are taking those pictures nowadays and hit click on the high end DSLR camera they bring, it takes like 10 or 20 in a row I believe. I think, but could be wrong, the camera even uploads images to the cloud (over time) automatically to be edited later, so they also aren't limited by the onboard flash storage even at this point.

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Pro cameras today are mirrorless dslr and are capable of shooting much higher speeds than 10-20 in a row

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You can't have a mirrorless DSLR.

Single Lens Reflex = mirror.

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typing too fast. The not didn't show up. I've stated on numerous threads that his camera was mirrorless not dslr. My apologies.

Every time I post I miss 20 posts so I have to go back up and find my spot I am well aware of the differences between mirrorless and dslr. The poster I was commenting on made it appear the no 1 photo journalist in the world (or so they say) was shooting with a dslr

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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to be fair, when I go, "he hated politicians" might be in my obit.

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I've seen some folks say some version of "if he hated politicians, why would he try to kill trump? he should like trump because he's an outsider/not a politician/etc." which for those of us over 30 might seem true, but trump has been the most famous politician in the world since the shooter was old enough to be aware of politics

makes me wonder if very young adults like the shooter are starting to see trump as a status-quo just-another-politician since he's been around for half their lives.

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I rarely say that about your posts but this is probably a fair assessment.

One could easily argue that trump struggled to do anything during his time in office because of the ridiculous amounts of pushback he received from just about every angle. All the impeachments, media, political pushback, agency pushback etc is not status quo for "just another politician" ...

But that's all irrelevant because kids wouldn't remember or be exposed to that information.

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It strikes me that kid taking ap classes doesn't go to college but becomes a kitchen worker in a nursing home. His parents were at least middle class I would think. I doubt this was a money decision

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He went to college, don't blame you for not knowing it... find it odd since they never mention any of his college classmates and haven't interviewed any of them or any of his college profs

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The Community College of Allegheny, or CCAC, has confirmed that Crooks attended the school between September 2021 and May 2024. He graduated with an associate degree in engineering science.

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Maybe they don't want some indoctrination stuff becoming a talking point.

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Thank you for that. I had not seen that

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Somewhere there's some written rules of engagement.

And somebody had to sign off on those rules of engagement.

That should be question 1 and 2 at any hearing on this.

#3 would be to look at the rules of engagement as it pertains to Trump and look to see whether those rules changed over time.

That they ostensibly watched the guy set up for 20-minutes while on the phone with DC is incredulous.

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And there absolutely needs to be some form of demand by Congress or whomever is in oversight, for the communications between whoever was in charge in Butler and their DC superiors. Because the 20 minutes time indicates at least two massive failures:

• Getting Trump immediately out of harms way based on the potential danger
• Engaging the suspected shooter either with gunfire or sending someone up on that roof that isn't a local cop and getting him off of there.

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aggiehawg said:

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[Cheatle] was in an executive suite to congratulate her team for the job they are doing securing the convention.

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Who shows up to congratulate their team on a job well done while the job is going on?

Especially when that job is security and you've just had one of the biggest security failures of all time earlier that week?

You don't call your truck driver and congratulate him for delivering the load safely while they are still on I-70 crossing the rockies in February.

Another factual example of how we are completely detached from reality with all this.

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Listening to more of the exchange, she was in the hospitality suite thank what she called "donors." So does the SS solicit donations? That sounds weird to me.

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She's certainly at the center of all this. Do we expect her to actually show up on Monday per the House
subpoena?

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If this lady doesn't show for a congressional subpoena then we got to assume that it confirms what we already know.

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Isn't this what got Bannon jailed for contempt of Congress? I know rules don't apply to Dems.

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Director Cheatle welcomes the opportunity to testify before the committee.

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Ok then, it's settled. She accepted the subpoena and will testify on July 22.

Take solace in the fact that all of our questions will be answered in due course.

We've got the upmost confidence in this lady to reign all this back in and restore the public's faith in the democratic process.