Acknowledged missteps?

Seems like a little more than a misstep, no?

Is she soft peddling this?

Is this Mr. Chow from The Hangover saying "but did you die?"

Who on planet earth has the privilege to screw up this bad and be this obstinate?

Shows up at the RNC and busts out with the classic "now is not the time or the place."

A different perspective...

I have done Photography as well…

It is VERY UNUSUAL for a photographer to use 1/8000 shutter speed @ 30 FPS in broad daylight.

UNLESS you are INTENTIONALLY trying to CLEARLY capture something happening VERY FAST.

Like a BULLET blowing someone’s head clean off their shoulders… https://t.co/rPuhexVlJT pic.twitter.com/VUXJTSaXKm

— The Patriot Voice (@TPV_John) July 18, 2024

It's not even that fancy. My 80D could catch that.

1/8000" shutter may have been to allow a low F and a decent ISO in bright sunlight.

Were the settings even manually set?

Foreverconservative said:

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BREAKING: Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle gets cornered by US Senators demanding answers on why she wanted Trump murdered. Sen. Marsha Blackburn and other prominent senators can be seen in this

Do not let up guys. We can't let them get away with what they did on July… pic.twitter.com/3i11u0tjC3

— George (@BehizyTweets) July 18, 2024

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Wow. Notice the lack of msm cameras on that.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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nortex97 said:

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Check.

And this is the guy whose people the SS 'leadership' wanted to point the fingers at:

BREAKING.🚨

"There was a blanket tactical channel being used. Everyone who was on that tactical channel heard it."

The local officer that confronted the Trump rally shooter radioed in to a shared police channel that there was an armed gunman on the roof prior to former… pic.twitter.com/WmxeZuSJgq

— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) July 17, 2024

Yet again (sorry if repetitive on this thread etc), no excuse for leaving Trump on the "X" for the shooter given what was known, and documented thoroughly, for anywhere from 26 minutes to 3 hours.

It's real damn hard to see this as merely 'incompetence' on the USSS team planning/leadership, imho.

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From that interview and other reports it seems like the below is a plausible timeline specifically for the shooter's area:

1. Officers get reports of dude on roof from people around the building. (Are they radioing in again at this point? If so what's the report?)
2. Officers circle building trying to find way up.
3. Officers give up on finding a ladder and one tries to boost the other up.
4. Cop 1 pokes his head over edge of roof while trying to boost himself up there, sees shooter who initially points his weapon at Cop 1.
5. Cop 1 falls and drops about 8 feet on the ground. Cop 1 and 2 then radio command post? (Still seems unclear when they actually saw/reported a weapon and that guy says he doesn't know)
6. Shooter then turns around and starts firing.

Definitely helpful info there. It seems like there are still questions around when the shooter was actually reported to command post, because if it was right after Cop 1 fell off the roof not sure that would have been enough time to pull Trump off stage if he immediately turned around, aimed and started firing.

And then the other important question for the SS would be - should being told there's a shady looking kid wandering around the perimeter with a range finder have been enough to cancel or postpone the event. Definitely need to get more info on who knew what and at what point in the day.

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Question for you regular shooters, I only hunt two or three times a year. Assuming Crooks pointed the AR at the cop , how long would it take him (assuming he is an average shooter) to get the gun back to a shooting position, get Trump in his optics, settle in and take the shot?

And if the radio was open, how were the snipers not zeroed in where they knew the cop was looking and not see the commotion of the kid swinging the gun around and then getting back to set up?

Also, I get the slope of the roof keeps the snipers from seeing him up to a point, but how far from the peak would he be where he, or his gun, would be visible? Especially from their higher perch and the low slope of the shooters roof?

Goodnight Irene said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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nortex97 said:

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Check.

And this is the guy whose people the SS 'leadership' wanted to point the fingers at:

BREAKING.🚨

"There was a blanket tactical channel being used. Everyone who was on that tactical channel heard it."

The local officer that confronted the Trump rally shooter radioed in to a shared police channel that there was an armed gunman on the roof prior to former… pic.twitter.com/WmxeZuSJgq

— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) July 17, 2024

Yet again (sorry if repetitive on this thread etc), no excuse for leaving Trump on the "X" for the shooter given what was known, and documented thoroughly, for anywhere from 26 minutes to 3 hours.

It's real damn hard to see this as merely 'incompetence' on the USSS team planning/leadership, imho.

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From that interview and other reports it seems like the below is a plausible timeline specifically for the shooter's area:

1. Officers get reports of dude on roof from people around the building. (Are they radioing in again at this point? If so what's the report?)
2. Officers circle building trying to find way up.
3. Officers give up on finding a ladder and one tries to boost the other up.
4. Cop 1 pokes his head over edge of roof while trying to boost himself up there, sees shooter who initially points his weapon at Cop 1.
5. Cop 1 falls and drops about 8 feet on the ground. Cop 1 and 2 then radio command post? (Still seems unclear when they actually saw/reported a weapon and that guy says he doesn't know)
6. Shooter then turns around and starts firing.

Definitely helpful info there. It seems like there are still questions around when the shooter was actually reported to command post, because if it was right after Cop 1 fell off the roof not sure that would have been enough time to pull Trump off stage if he immediately turned around, aimed and started firing.

And then the other important question for the SS would be - should being told there's a shady looking kid wandering around the perimeter with a range finder have been enough to cancel or postpone the event. Definitely need to get more info on who knew what and at what point in the day.

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Question for you regular shooters, I only hunt two or three times a year. Assuming Crooks pointed the AR at the cop , how long would it take him (assuming he is an average shooter) to get the gun back to a shooting position, get Trump in his optics, settle in and take the shot?

And if the radio was open, how were the snipers not zeroed in where they knew the cop was looking and not see the commotion of the kid swinging the gun around and then getting back to set up?

Also, I get the slope of the roof keeps the snipers from seeing him up to a point, but how far from the peak would he be where he, or his gun, would be visible? Especially from their higher perch and the low slope of the shooters roof?

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The snipers were well above Trump. If Trump was visible to the shooter, the shooter was visible to the snipers. If he had a good position and had just turned around to look back, he could get back in and on target in a few seconds.

C@LAg said:

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Good, cause we all want to know HOW this happened👇🤯🤦‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/rhl6hjcNvW

— Liberacrat Media™️ (@Liberacrat) July 17, 2024

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I know this is all a very serious matter but that dam meme with the lady and pistol and cartoon character is funny … she will probably need to go hide under a rock for a few years … laughing stock of the SS..

Sorry back to the thread

How is it possible that the shooter wasn't taken out immediately?

How is it possible that there was any delay?

Use of deadly force goes on the basis of a continuum.

At the top of that continuum are thee elements.

Weapon + Opportunity = Action

Both of those criteria are met here as soon as someone sighted with a rifle moves in the direction of prone position.

Both of those criteria mandate an immediate response.

Whether you trying to defend yourself or a third party under your protection.

So the fact that they watched the guy for an hour, and watched the guy set up defies all logic and reason. It's inconsistent with basic use of force protocol. By not shooting the guy on sight you are doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing under any use of force scenario, self defense or defense of a third person.

What is the reasonable explanation for this?

Is there a reasonable explanation for this?

Bellards Boys said:

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drcrinum said:

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REVEALED: The firm that took the suspicious and enormous bet against President Trump’s Truth Social stock ($DJT) ONE DAY before the assassination attempt is Austin Private Wealth LLC, majority held by George Soros’ Vanguard and BlackRock.

Coincidentally, BlackRock, the party… https://t.co/JbRi7aC4Db pic.twitter.com/ipHT63xH6J

— DiedSuddenly (@DiedSuddenly_) July 18, 2024

Wouldn't you know it...

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This is a great post

When nothing makes sense = always follow the $$$$.

Good good find

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This one is probably because the convention started Monday and they figured the stock would tank. Nothing more.

Weird to see a wealth management firm do something like that. Seems more hedge fund, private equity type no?

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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How is it possible that the shooter wasn't taken out immediately?

How is it possible that there was any delay?

Use of deadly force goes on the basis of a continuum.

At the top of that continuum are thee elements.

Weapon + Opportunity = Action

Both of those criteria are met here as soon as someone sighted with a rifle moves in the direction of prone position.

Both of those criteria mandate an immediate response.

Whether you trying to defend yourself or a third party under your protection.

So the fact that they watched the guy for an hour, and watched the guy set up defies all logic and reason. It's inconsistent with basic use of force protocol. By not shooting the guy on sight you are doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing under any use of force scenario, self defense or defense of a third person.

What is the reasonable explanation for this?

Is there a reasonable explanation for this?

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The only plausible scenario I can come up with would be they thought maybe he was local LEO. But all of the other info coming in about him being noted as suspicious and that local LEOs had an aerial picture of him on the roof prior to the shooting and an open channel to the USSS makes that possibility seem very remote. I keep coming back to the idea that somebody in the USSS chain of command had them holding fire (either through incompetence or malice; and I don't think malice can be ruled out yet), until the shooter fired and then the snipers took matters into their own hands.

Boozer92 said:

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It strikes me that kid taking ap classes doesn't go to college but becomes a kitchen worker in a nursing home. His parents were at least middle class I would think. I doubt this was a money decision

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He went to college, don't blame you for not knowing it... find it odd since they never mention any of his college classmates and haven't interviewed any of them or any of his college profs

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The Community College of Allegheny, or CCAC, has confirmed that Crooks attended the school between September 2021 and May 2024. He graduated with an associate degree in engineering science.

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Maybe they don't want some indoctrination stuff becoming a talking point.

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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FFS

His camera is so fancy and high tech there's no reason not to shoot fast and ensure you get zero blur from hands, camera, wind moving the camera, etc. heck most of those camera men were moving constantly which will add blur. Full daylight allows you to shoot faster because you don't need a high iso

That's a poor take and only for conspiracy take.

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It would be good to know how many times has Doug Mills taken pics of stationary speakers at 1/8000 speed? If it’s not unusual he should show us his pictures. And tell us what made him use 1/8000 for the pictures of Trump speaking? What high speed event was he hoping to capture?

— “Mad” Anthony Wayne (@scottv470) July 18, 2024

Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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FFS

His camera is so fancy and high tech there's no reason not to shoot fast and ensure you get zero blur from hands, camera, wind moving the camera, etc. heck most of those camera men were moving constantly which will add blur. Full daylight allows you to shoot faster because you don't need a high iso

That's a poor take and only for conspiracy take.

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It would be good to know how many times has Doug Mills taken pics of stationary speakers at 1/8000 speed? If it’s not unusual he should show us his pictures. And tell us what made him use 1/8000 for the pictures of Trump speaking? What high speed event was he hoping to capture?

— “Mad” Anthony Wayne (@scottv470) July 18, 2024

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He also had a Go Pro on the whole time.
🚩🚩🚩

— AG 🔥 (@Yolo304741) July 18, 2024

Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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FFS

His camera is so fancy and high tech there's no reason not to shoot fast and ensure you get zero blur from hands, camera, wind moving the camera, etc. heck most of those camera men were moving constantly which will add blur. Full daylight allows you to shoot faster because you don't need a high iso

That's a poor take and only for conspiracy take.

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It would be good to know how many times has Doug Mills taken pics of stationary speakers at 1/8000 speed? If it’s not unusual he should show us his pictures. And tell us what made him use 1/8000 for the pictures of Trump speaking? What high speed event was he hoping to capture?

— “Mad” Anthony Wayne (@scottv470) July 18, 2024

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Hey @dougmillsnyt
This suggestion could be easily disproven. Just need you to provide images with these exact same shutter speeds for other recent @realDonaldTrump events.
Shouldn’t be hard to do.
Or is it? @DonaldJTrumpJr agreed?

— bnrealwithu ✖️💙 (@bnrealwithu) July 18, 2024

Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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FFS

His camera is so fancy and high tech there's no reason not to shoot fast and ensure you get zero blur from hands, camera, wind moving the camera, etc. heck most of those camera men were moving constantly which will add blur. Full daylight allows you to shoot faster because you don't need a high iso

That's a poor take and only for conspiracy take.

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It would be good to know how many times has Doug Mills taken pics of stationary speakers at 1/8000 speed? If it’s not unusual he should show us his pictures. And tell us what made him use 1/8000 for the pictures of Trump speaking? What high speed event was he hoping to capture?

— “Mad” Anthony Wayne (@scottv470) July 18, 2024

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Hey @dougmillsnyt
This suggestion could be easily disproven. Just need you to provide images with these exact same shutter speeds for other recent @realDonaldTrump events.
Shouldn’t be hard to do.
Or is it? @DonaldJTrumpJr agreed?

— bnrealwithu ✖️💙 (@bnrealwithu) July 18, 2024

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Same guy who caught this iconic image... guy just is always at the right place at the right time, huh? pic.twitter.com/DUmnU3mU2h

— Pattern Recognition Expert (@DarthKansasCity) July 18, 2024

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Quote:

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1. Local cops dropped the ball
2. He was outside the perimeter
3. Sloped roof
4. It was the Iranians

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Just a moment. Just a moment ..

16 July - 14:48 update

5. The USSS suffered from a lack of resources

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6. "He got lost in the crowd"

Joe axing the same questions being asked on here.

LOL, I think we all know why…

Anyone wondering why they aren't using this photo of the shooter? pic.twitter.com/9JKPxkEV4t

— Paul Hookem 🇺🇸 (@PaulHook_em) July 18, 2024

The current 'official' story is the snipers/SS watched him on the roof for 20 minutes and did nothing to remove/protect Trump:

Sen. Dan Sullivan was the one who asked the question about a foreign nexus, citing recent reporting about an Iranian assassination plot against Trump.

I’m told only four questions were allowed on the call, and that USSS Director Cheatle barely spoke.

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) July 17, 2024

nortex97 said:

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LOL, I think we all know why…

Anyone wondering why they aren't using this photo of the shooter? pic.twitter.com/9JKPxkEV4t

— Paul Hookem 🇺🇸 (@PaulHook_em) July 18, 2024

The current 'official' story is the snipers/SS watched him on the roof for 20 minutes and did nothing to remove/protect Trump:

Sen. Dan Sullivan was the one who asked the question about a foreign nexus, citing recent reporting about an Iranian assassination plot against Trump.

I’m told only four questions were allowed on the call, and that USSS Director Cheatle barely spoke.

— Andrew Desiderio (@AndrewDesiderio) July 17, 2024

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Only four questions and the one ultimately responsible isn't even answering while being protected. That say alot right there.

Shove your head in the sand.

Nothing to see here.

Lol.


Either you are spirituality awake and see all this for what it is, or you are scrambling to make excuses to explain this event that has you so torn up. I hope you all find the path.

They finally dug up some online postings.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/18/us-news/trumps-would-be-assassin-thomas-crooks-wrote-chilling-online-post-foreshadowing-rally-shooting-report/

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Would-be Donald Trump assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks wrote a chilling online message that hinted to sinister plans for the day he shot up the former president's Butler, Pa. rally over the weekend.

"July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds," the 20-year-old gunman allegedly wrote on Steam, a popular online platform where gamers communicate with one another, Fox News reported.

The foreshadowing message was revealed to US senators during a briefing with top law enforcement officials on Wednesday.

Crooks, 20, also had images of the Republican presidential nominee as well as President Biden on his cellphone, and searched the dates of the Democratic National Convention and Trump's Pennsylvania rally - where he shot the 45th president from a nearby rooftop, law enforcement sources told The Post.

Investigators are mining through the shooter's phones and computer in search of answers to the assassination attempt - but have not yet identified a motive.

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txags92 said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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How is it possible that the shooter wasn't taken out immediately?

How is it possible that there was any delay?

Use of deadly force goes on the basis of a continuum.

At the top of that continuum are thee elements.

Weapon + Opportunity = Action

Both of those criteria are met here as soon as someone sighted with a rifle moves in the direction of prone position.

Both of those criteria mandate an immediate response.

Whether you trying to defend yourself or a third party under your protection.

So the fact that they watched the guy for an hour, and watched the guy set up defies all logic and reason. It's inconsistent with basic use of force protocol. By not shooting the guy on sight you are doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing under any use of force scenario, self defense or defense of a third person.

What is the reasonable explanation for this?

Is there a reasonable explanation for this?

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The only plausible scenario I can come up with would be they thought maybe he was local LEO. But all of the other info coming in about him being noted as suspicious and that local LEOs had an aerial picture of him on the roof prior to the shooting and an open channel to the USSS makes that possibility seem very remote. I keep coming back to the idea that somebody in the USSS chain of command had them holding fire (either through incompetence or malice; and I don't think malice can be ruled out yet), until the shooter fired and then the snipers took matters into their own hands.

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I thought we already had a statement from one of the snipers saying they had him under surveillance but their orders were not to fire first and even after the shots they just acted on their own to takr him out. Later they were told not to speak and it may have been scrubbed but I swear that happened in the first 6 hours atfer. Or was that unconfirmed to be an actual sniper? It was some social media post.

redsquirrelAG said:

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Shove your head in the sand.

Nothing to see here.

Lol.


Either you are spirituality awake and see all this for what it is, or you are scrambling to make excuses to explain this event that has you so torn up. I hope you all find the path.

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Not sure what you're referring to here.

redsquirrelAG said:

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Shove your head in the sand.

Nothing to see here.

Lol.


Either you are spirituality awake and see all this for what it is, or you are scrambling to make excuses to explain this event that has you so torn up. I hope you all find the path.

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Regarding the photograph though - even if you knew it was coming and wanted to get that image timing it to the 1/3000th of a second necessary would be impossible by human reaction, unless you were just taking 3000 pics per second for several seconds. Randomly it is possible of course. There was no speed factor involved in capturing his iconic Bush 9/11 photo just had to be there. This one seems highly lucky to me thats all. The fact that he was there is not surprising,