TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
Yea...how does someone climb up on a building with a direct line of fire and not be spotted? How does SS not flag that building as a spot to watch?TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
I am not a high level trained sniper, but that looked... unnatural. It could have been his physiological reaction to "oh ****, did that happen?" but I feel like they are trained better than that.JFABNRGR said:TxAg82 said:You can tell he notices the assassin just before the first shot is fired. That all occurred fast.AtlAg05 said:Check out this angle. Counter snipers see something and engage? #shooter #snipers pic.twitter.com/lD3J651SkJ
— Colagram (@coladoggxxx) July 14, 2024
Here's the video of the SS sniper possibly returning fire.
His movement behind that rifle and not performing follow through is very odd.
Too late to make it. He's in PA, the fights are in Denver.PatriotAg02 said:Supposedly he's going to the UFC fight with Dana White tonight in Denver. That's the word anyway.aginlakeway said:
I'd be stunned if Trump doesn't address the country tonight.
DannyDuberstein said:TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
100%.
If this shooter had any sense of completing this, center mass would be logical. First shot may have been CM and Trump didn't flinch so he went to the head.drcrinum said:I downloaded that image from twitter and blew it up on my computer screen. Sure looks like a hole with rays in the cloth radiating outward from the periphery of the hole.Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:
Thoughts?Trump’s bulletproof vest… pic.twitter.com/LdTyJs5arQ
— Ben Owen (@hrkbenowen) July 14, 2024
TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
There was a TFR there. ANY unauthorized drone would have either had LEOs make the pilot it bring it down or it would have been shot down (or taken down with other C-UAS methods).jcc96 said:KatyAg01 said:
In this day and age, how is there not drone surveillance at events like this? Would likely go a long way to snuffing this kind of attempt out, if not at least having video documentation of how they got in position, what car dropped them off, etc.
Unlike Jan 6, this is truly a dark day in our history; third world countries are looking at this and saying, "Damn!"
7. 1. 3. Easy date for me to commit to memory given the area code for my cell. I won't let anyone on the left forget this day, especially if they utter the phrase "threat to democracy."
So who's to keep someone from flying another drone or taking over a drone and shooting at a target. I wouldn't think that would be the safest thing either.
sleepybeagle said:Yea...how does someone climb up on a building with a direct line of fire and not be spotted? How does SS not flag that building as a spot to watch?TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
aTmAg said:Yeah I saw it. To come away with that with some sort of conspiracy theory that the SS saw the guy on the roof let him get a couple shots off, and then said "well you shot enough.. NOW I'm going to kill you" is preposterous.Science Denier said:aTmAg said:That's like saying a Jimbo was looking specifically at me while I'm in a crowd at kyle field. Just because he's looking in my direction doesn't mean he sees ME. Especially if he has binoculars. By nature, the field of view on binoculars is small.Science Denier said:aTmAg said:I think he said he pointed it out to policed. Not SS. So I can imagine they aren't all on the same coms together. I imagine the SS is on encrypted coms.UntoldSpirit said:After he was pointed out by bystanders for at least two minutes to them. That's the part that's going to fuel the conspiracy theories. The guy on the BBC interview - if he never surfaces again that's going to be really suspicious.aTmAg said:
Don't bash the SS in any conspiracy nonsense. That makes us look like idiots. We aren't talking about the FBI here. They shoot the shooter impressively quickly.
No. He said the SS was specifically watching him with binoculars as he kept pointing to him.
There wasn't a crowd there. It was a party that went outside to hear Trump.
Did you see the tweet?
Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:If this shooter had any sense of completing this, center mass would be logical. First shot may have been CM and Trump didn't flinch so he went to the head.drcrinum said:I downloaded that image from twitter and blew it up on my computer screen. Sure looks like a hole with rays in the cloth radiating outward from the periphery of the hole.Kunkle for Congress TX-34 said:
Thoughts?Trump’s bulletproof vest… pic.twitter.com/LdTyJs5arQ
— Ben Owen (@hrkbenowen) July 14, 2024
Roses are redUlysses90 said:BREAKING: Mark Violets who uploaded a YouTube video saying justice was coming identified as Trump shooter pic.twitter.com/hpl8p8xcBr
— Simon Ateba (@simonateba) July 14, 2024
Literally a fraction of an inch at the last millisecond. 100% divine intervention. pic.twitter.com/Ayn1nAUhHJ
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) July 14, 2024
rolo said:apparently no one was hurt, since the shooter was on the side, and apparently the hydraulics of the crane were touched. @realDonaldTrump 🙏🏽 pic.twitter.com/vxpICcFY4l
— Vitolii (@Vitolii_) July 13, 2024
🚨JUST IN: President Trump's motorcade leaves hospital pic.twitter.com/yiMm62xEw5
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) July 14, 2024
Put your glasses on my friend.txaggie_08 said:
You think he'd fly commercial?
I don't think Trump's gonna make it, but number of planned flights for an evening means nothing.
F I G H T S not F L I G H T SQuote:
Too late to make it. He's in PA, the fights are in Denver.
I think there's only 7 or 8 fights left tonight.
Bearpitbull said:Ellis Wyatt said:Both sides are not shooting people. Both sides aren't corrupting the legal system to jail opposition. One side is doing that.nomadic_ag said:
Terrible terrible day for the country. Praying for Trump and his family.
I wish both sides would cool down the rhetoric. It's out of hand. There are crazies out there who believe it all it be true.
There is no moral equivalence.
Sure. I cannot imagine needing to tell yourself that. Both sides are guilty of the bull**** place we find ourselves. Two old idiots are our choices.
Bearpitbull said:Ellis Wyatt said:Both sides are not shooting people. Both sides aren't corrupting the legal system to jail opposition. One side is doing that.nomadic_ag said:
Terrible terrible day for the country. Praying for Trump and his family.
I wish both sides would cool down the rhetoric. It's out of hand. There are crazies out there who believe it all it be true.
There is no moral equivalence.
Sure. I cannot imagine needing to tell yourself that. Both sides are guilty of the bull**** place we find ourselves. Two old idiots are our choices.
LRHF said:TX_COWDOC said:
This. He should have been ushered off stage immediately. Lots of questions about the coordination and basic integrity of the security detail (local, state, federal).
After watching some of the post attempt video e.g. as he was loaded into the suburban and one of the agents cannot holster her pistol, I'm not sure that Mayorkas assigned the A team to protect Trump.
Been thinking exactly the same thing! Way too slow…
For clarity's sake, I think they were yelling at local police who were manning the perimeter. One of the issues to be determined is whether it is true, as has been alleged, that DHS had refused requests for more staffing on Trump's security detail.tylercsbn9 said:sleepybeagle said:Yea...how does someone climb up on a building with a direct line of fire and not be spotted? How does SS not flag that building as a spot to watch?TommyBrady said:
Have to wait to know exactly all the mess ups here but for a former president and Nominee for President to be within an inch of his brain being splattered on stage is a Secret Service Failure and if his campaign had asked for more protection and was denied everybody in that decision making line needs to be fired.
He was spotted by some random ass people and they were yelling to the secret service about it for minutes. Trump should have been whisked away minutes prior.
