Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Rossticus said:

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Like John Wayne said, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

If you wouldn't be willing to defend the US if it were attacked (which is the only conceivable scenario under which a draft would occur despite the lamentation of the pearl clutching alarmists) then you should identify one that you would, and move there. And if there is no country on the face of the earth you'd prefer to live in than the US and you'd still not fight, then there may be another problem. IMHO, of course.

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AggieT said:

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Recruiting numbers must be garbage. I wonder why.

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Emotional Support Cobra said:

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My grandfather joined the Army to avoid prison. The judge gave him 2 options.

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Is that code for Russia is no threat and they have sweet shopping carts according to Tucker Carlson

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Who the hell are you? Such a stupid post. Just another fly by premium poster I guess.

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What else could that post mean?


It's at best only pro American if some agreed upon variable is met.


So whats the variable?

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You were obviously mocking someone that doesn't want their kids fighting a war for our worthless government that has proven to have no interest in winning wars.

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I'm looking for clarification from someone I suspect does not respect the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and doesn't consider it a threat despite it being controlled by a psychopath

It's a current fad

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We have nukes too. Once those things start flying, we are all done for. Your mistake is thinking that Russia is the enemy. Our government has proven that they have zero interest in winning wars. They handcuff our soldiers with ridiculous ROE's while the enemy doesn't have to play by those rules. The last 20 years has proven that our government never wanted to win the war. I don't blame a soul for not wanting to fight for our government.

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You make the mistake of thinking Russia is rational, much less not run by an evil authoritarian sitting on the words largest nuclear arsenal. Not a threat, you're naive

You aren't even talking Russia. You're mad at the US gov and saying Russia is OK because of it

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Is that code for Russia is no threat and they have sweet shopping carts according to Tucker Carlson

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Who the hell are you? Such a stupid post. Just another fly by premium poster I guess.

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What else could that post mean?


It's at best only pro American if some agreed upon variable is met.


So whats the variable?

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You were obviously mocking someone that doesn't want their kids fighting a war for our worthless government that has proven to have no interest in winning wars.

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I'm looking for clarification from someone I suspect does not respect the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and doesn't consider it a threat despite it being controlled by a psychopath

It's a current fad

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We have nukes too. Once those things start flying, we are all done for. Your mistake is thinking that Russia is the enemy. Our government has proven that they have zero interest in winning wars. They handcuff our soldiers with ridiculous ROE's while the enemy doesn't have to play by those rules. The last 20 years has proven that our government never wanted to win the war. I don't blame a soul for not wanting to fight for our government.

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You make the mistake of thinking Russia is rational, much less not run by an evil authoritarian sitting on the words largest nuclear arsenal. Not a threat, you're naive

You aren't even talking Russia. You're mad at the US gov and saying Russia is OK because of it

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Would you send your son to go fight for a government that had no intention of winning a war?

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My daughter you mean and yes. I believe in America even if I'm not a fan of our politicians, both D and R.

It's not about our government, it's about the spread of evil that exists in the world, like Russia. You want to pretend Russia is not a threat becauseyou'ree mad at our government? Evil sociopath controls words largest nuclear arsenal is not a threat? Com'on

As messed up as many of our politicians are, most are not so far gone as to excuse Russia as not an enemy. At least not yet.

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So if you knew your kid was being sent to fight, and possibly die, in a war that our government didn't mean to win, you would be fine with that? You are naive if you don't believe in the military industrial complex. What war since WW2 has our government gone all out to win?

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AnScAggie said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Is that code for Russia is no threat and they have sweet shopping carts according to Tucker Carlson

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Who the hell are you? Such a stupid post. Just another fly by premium poster I guess.

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What else could that post mean?


It's at best only pro American if some agreed upon variable is met.


So whats the variable?

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You were obviously mocking someone that doesn't want their kids fighting a war for our worthless government that has proven to have no interest in winning wars.

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I'm looking for clarification from someone I suspect does not respect the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and doesn't consider it a threat despite it being controlled by a psychopath

It's a current fad

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We have nukes too. Once those things start flying, we are all done for. Your mistake is thinking that Russia is the enemy. Our government has proven that they have zero interest in winning wars. They handcuff our soldiers with ridiculous ROE's while the enemy doesn't have to play by those rules. The last 20 years has proven that our government never wanted to win the war. I don't blame a soul for not wanting to fight for our government.

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You make the mistake of thinking Russia is rational, much less not run by an evil authoritarian sitting on the words largest nuclear arsenal. Not a threat, you're naive

You aren't even talking Russia. You're mad at the US gov and saying Russia is OK because of it

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The fact that Russia couldn't roll over Ukraine in a few weeks or couple of months tells me all I need to know about the threat of Russia towards the US. I was terrified of nuclear war in elementary and middle school because I grew up in San Antonio which at the time was referred to as Military City USA. Nowadays, no way I'm worried about nuclear war with Russia, the real enemies of the USA are liberals, leftists, globalists, socialists and Marxists, or to simplify it, the Democratic Party. Therefore, no way would I want my son or the younger generation to go fight socialists and communists in some foreign country when we have a huge share of them here within our own borders.

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AnScAggie said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Is that code for Russia is no threat and they have sweet shopping carts according to Tucker Carlson

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Who the hell are you? Such a stupid post. Just another fly by premium poster I guess.

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What else could that post mean?


It's at best only pro American if some agreed upon variable is met.


So whats the variable?

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You were obviously mocking someone that doesn't want their kids fighting a war for our worthless government that has proven to have no interest in winning wars.

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I'm looking for clarification from someone I suspect does not respect the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and doesn't consider it a threat despite it being controlled by a psychopath

It's a current fad

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We have nukes too. Once those things start flying, we are all done for. Your mistake is thinking that Russia is the enemy. Our government has proven that they have zero interest in winning wars. They handcuff our soldiers with ridiculous ROE's while the enemy doesn't have to play by those rules. The last 20 years has proven that our government never wanted to win the war. I don't blame a soul for not wanting to fight for our government.

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You make the mistake of thinking Russia is rational, much less not run by an evil authoritarian sitting on the words largest nuclear arsenal. Not a threat, you're naive

You aren't even talking Russia. You're mad at the US gov and saying Russia is OK because of it

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The fact that Russia couldn't roll over Ukraine in a few weeks or couple of months tells me all I need to know about the threat of Russia towards the US. I was terrified of nuclear war in elementary and middle school because I grew up in San Antonio which at the time was referred to as Military City USA. Nowadays, no way I'm worried about nuclear war with Russia, the real enemies of the USA are liberals, leftists, globalists, socialists and Marxists, or to simplify it, the Democratic Party. Therefore, no way would I want my son or the younger generation to go fight socialists and communists in some foreign country when we have a huge share of them here within our own borders.

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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jamey said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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Is that code for Russia is no threat and they have sweet shopping carts according to Tucker Carlson

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Who the hell are you? Such a stupid post. Just another fly by premium poster I guess.

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What else could that post mean?


It's at best only pro American if some agreed upon variable is met.


So whats the variable?

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You were obviously mocking someone that doesn't want their kids fighting a war for our worthless government that has proven to have no interest in winning wars.

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I'm looking for clarification from someone I suspect does not respect the worlds largest nuclear arsenal and doesn't consider it a threat despite it being controlled by a psychopath

It's a current fad

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We have nukes too. Once those things start flying, we are all done for. Your mistake is thinking that Russia is the enemy. Our government has proven that they have zero interest in winning wars. They handcuff our soldiers with ridiculous ROE's while the enemy doesn't have to play by those rules. The last 20 years has proven that our government never wanted to win the war. I don't blame a soul for not wanting to fight for our government.

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You make the mistake of thinking Russia is rational, much less not run by an evil authoritarian sitting on the words largest nuclear arsenal. Not a threat, you're naive

You aren't even talking Russia. You're mad at the US gov and saying Russia is OK because of it

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Would you send your son to go fight for a government that had no intention of winning a war?

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My daughter you mean and yes. I believe in America even if I'm not a fan of our politicians, both D and R.

It's not about our government, it's about the spread of evil that exists in the world, like Russia. You want to pretend Russia is not a threat becauseyou'ree mad at our government? Evil sociopath controls words largest nuclear arsenal is not a threat? Com'on

As messed up as many of our politicians are, most are not so far gone as to excuse Russia as not an enemy. At least not yet.

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So if you knew your kid was being sent to fight, and possibly die, in a war that our government didn't mean to win, you would be fine with that? You are naive if you don't believe in the military industrial complex. What war since WW2 has our government gone all out to win?

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You've gone way off topic into hypothetical lala land

Tell me again how Russia isn't the enemy?

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Tango.Mike said:

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Rossticus said:

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Like John Wayne said, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

If you wouldn't be willing to defend the US if it were attacked (which is the only conceivable scenario under which a draft would occur despite the lamentation of the pearl clutching alarmists) then you should identify one that you would, and move there. And if there is no country on the face of the earth you'd prefer to live in than the US and you'd still not fight, then there may be another problem. IMHO, of course.

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Pretty ironic flex, since John Wayne was a draft dodger

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Rossticus said:

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Tango.Mike said:

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Rossticus said:

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Like John Wayne said, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

If you wouldn't be willing to defend the US if it were attacked (which is the only conceivable scenario under which a draft would occur despite the lamentation of the pearl clutching alarmists) then you should identify one that you would, and move there. And if there is no country on the face of the earth you'd prefer to live in than the US and you'd still not fight, then there may be another problem. IMHO, of course.

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Pretty ironic flex, since John Wayne was a draft dodger

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Not a flex. Intentional to see how many of the folks sprinting to brag about how they'd dodge a draft would be critical out of the other side of their mouth. Wayne's chicken **** decision to avoid the war aside, what he said isn't any less reflective of my sentiments on the matter.

The US has myriad faults. Folks who wouldn't be willing to defend the country of their birth, where they choose to live, against an imminent threat should point out another country they'd prefer to live in and then elucidate why they're not there.

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geoag58 said:

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Rossticus said:

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Tango.Mike said:

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Rossticus said:

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Like John Wayne said, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

If you wouldn't be willing to defend the US if it were attacked (which is the only conceivable scenario under which a draft would occur despite the lamentation of the pearl clutching alarmists) then you should identify one that you would, and move there. And if there is no country on the face of the earth you'd prefer to live in than the US and you'd still not fight, then there may be another problem. IMHO, of course.

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Pretty ironic flex, since John Wayne was a draft dodger

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Not a flex. Intentional to see how many of the folks sprinting to brag about how they'd dodge a draft would be critical out of the other side of their mouth. Wayne's chicken **** decision to avoid the war aside, what he said isn't any less reflective of my sentiments on the matter.

The US has myriad faults. Folks who wouldn't be willing to defend the country of their birth, where they choose to live, against an imminent threat should point out another country they'd prefer to live in and then elucidate why they're not there.

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You need to quit posting and get ready to deploy biden boy

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Rossticus said:

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Like John Wayne said, "Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be."

If you wouldn't be willing to defend the US if it were attacked (which is the only conceivable scenario under which a draft would occur despite the lamentation of the pearl clutching alarmists) then you should identify one that you would, and move there. And if there is no country on the face of the earth you'd prefer to live in than the US and you'd still not fight, then there may be another problem. IMHO, of course.

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• The law already says men will register for selective service on their 18 birthday
• This simply makes things equal with the women
• Whether a war is "just" in your mind is irrelevant. You're no better than the hippies and Canada runners of the 60s that you love to trash.

samurai_science said:

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Artorias said:

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My kids will never be reporting for a draft for a war that isn't a direct imminent threat to the homeland

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clarythedrill said:

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For those of you who say you will never allow your kid to be drafted, what exactly are you going to do IF we have a draft and they are indeed drafted?

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Woods Ag said:

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20 years ago I would have been willingly laid down my life for this country. 10 years ago probably the same. Even 5 years ago I would have.


Today - there's no ****ing way me or my son will fight for this shothole.

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4the_Record said:

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John Wayne did not dodge the draft. He was exempt as were all married men. He was 34 at the beginning and, while he could have still volunteered as did his friend Jimmy Stewart, it is completely untrue to say he dodged the draft.

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General Jack D. Ripper said:

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It's weird. A lot of people have woken up and realize that these wars are not "American" wars but the federal government's war. A lot of those people are former patriotic conservatives. It's funny because now, the left, who was traditionally anti war, have joined the neo-cons in being war hawks.

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eric76 said:

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Within two or three days after I turned 18, I proudly went down to the courthouse and registered for the draft.

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one safe place said:

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Draft? Just where is the ground war going to be?

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one safe place said:

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Draft? Just where is the ground war going to be?

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TAMU1990 said:

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one safe place said:

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Draft? Just where is the ground war going to be?

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Right here with the 20+ million illegal men Biden let in.

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