LMCane said:
"And I think Trump will find a way to rattle Biden and get him off script...which will be the most entertaining part."
stated by EVERY SINGLE TRUMPER BACK IN 2020 and Trump lost both debates.
how about not having the objective to 'rattle' your opponent but to actually lay out superior evidence on the debate issues?
Tramp96 said:BoydCrowder13 said:Tramp96 said:BoydCrowder13 said:Gigem314 said:Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.Old McDonald said:
trump is incapable of speaking a paragraph without rambling off on an incoherent tangent. he's falling asleep in courtrooms. he's a shell of his 2016 self. your media diet hides these moments from you while playing Biden's on a 24/7 loop because it's in their interest for you not to know better.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies.
One would have to be as senile as Biden to think he and Trump are basically the same. Which we all know is 100% false, but it's the best argument your side has to combat the abysmal failure that Biden and policies have been for the country.
Trump is about 4-5 years behind Biden in terms of decline. Watching the difference in Trump between 2016 and 2024 is roughly the same as the difference from Biden in 2012 to 2020.
Biden is clearly older and frailer.
Trump of 2024 is not the same as Trump 2016. Not sure that anyone can deny that. Time is the great equalizer.
We had a retirement party today for a 63 year old. It's crazy that in 15-20 years, she could be running for president.
I agree, but in the opposite direction. I think he has more energy now than he did in 2016. He's lost weight and I think it has definitely had a positive effect on him.
Agree to disagree
I NEVER agree to disagree. That's a loser mentality.
No teleprompter and no earpiece. If I were Trump, the first thing I'd do is break Joe's teleprompter.Ags4DaWin said:
No ear pieces or GTFO
Trump should not debate this clown unless they agree to an actual debate.
A debate where Biden can be hopped up on dope and fed answers through and ear piece helps him.
It does nothing for trump
SA68AG said:
With CNN moderating the debate I feel comfortable in predicting the emphasis of the debate will be
January 6
Abortion
Trump's legal issues and moral fitness
Climate change
Collusion with Putin
Little on the economy, immigration, or world affairs or anything else that really matters
Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
I don't trust Trump's mouth.Dude. I'm not a supporter. I am not going to vote for him.Old McDonald said:the "that's just how trump is" rebuttals to my post are pretty telling. he gets a pass for his senility because his supporters are numb to it, and so they ignore or hide from the evidence that it has indeed gotten worse since 2016 and even 2020. unfortunately, the fact that he's always been a cognitively impaired moron doesn't excuse him from being a cognitively impaired AND declining moron.Gigem314 said:
Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies
Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
I'd say it's about 14-15 years in cognitive decline...BoydCrowder13 said:Gigem314 said:Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.Old McDonald said:
trump is incapable of speaking a paragraph without rambling off on an incoherent tangent. he's falling asleep in courtrooms. he's a shell of his 2016 self. your media diet hides these moments from you while playing Biden's on a 24/7 loop because it's in their interest for you not to know better.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies.
One would have to be as senile as Biden to think he and Trump are basically the same. Which we all know is 100% false, but it's the best argument your side has to combat the abysmal failure that Biden and policies have been for the country.
Trump is about 4-5 years behind Biden in terms of decline. Watching the difference in Trump between 2016 and 2024 is roughly the same as the difference from Biden in 2012 to 2020.
Biden is clearly older and frailer.
Trump of 2024 is not the same as Trump 2016. Not sure that anyone can deny that. Time is the great equalizer.
We had a retirement party today for a 63 year old. It's crazy that in 15-20 years, she could be running for president.
Pumpkinhead said:Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
I was talking about about DURING the debate I have no confidence that would Trump could stay disciplined and keep focus on his policies. I think either he will go off the rails like rehashing 2020 or his personal issues, or make personal attacks on Biden that come across as poor taste, and I could easily see the mods goading him into it as well.
Hopefully makes more sense now
TheHungryDonkey said:Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
What policy are you speaking of?
The Trump campaign should PUBLICLY send a request/demand to CNN that they want the subjects to be picked from a set of topics agreed to by both campaigns and then send out a list of 10-12 that they should pick from. And demand/request that the Biden campaign PUBLICLY announce THEIR list of 10-12.SA68AG said:
With CNN moderating the debate I feel comfortable in predicting the emphasis of the debate will be
January 6
Abortion
Trump's legal issues and moral fitness
Climate change
Collusion with Putin
Little on the economy, immigration, or world affairs or anything else that really matters
UAS Ag said:The Trump campaign should PUBLICLY send a request/demand to CNN that they want the subjects to be picked from a set of topics agreed to by both campaigns and then send out a list of 10-12 that they should pick from. And demand/request that the Biden campaign PUBLICLY announce THEIR list of 10-12.SA68AG said:
With CNN moderating the debate I feel comfortable in predicting the emphasis of the debate will be
January 6
Abortion
Trump's legal issues and moral fitness
Climate change
Collusion with Putin
Little on the economy, immigration, or world affairs or anything else that really matters
That way EVERYONE knows what the lists are from each campaign...and will know if CNN favors one side or the other.
True...APHIS AG said:
CNN will be moderating the first one and I am sure that they will be providing Biden not only the questions but the answers also.
These are the type of questions for both "candidates".
Question for Biden: What does 2 + 2 equal to?
Question for Trump: What is the square root of 1,345,202.4.
I assume those will be on Biden's list.TheHungryDonkey said:UAS Ag said:The Trump campaign should PUBLICLY send a request/demand to CNN that they want the subjects to be picked from a set of topics agreed to by both campaigns and then send out a list of 10-12 that they should pick from. And demand/request that the Biden campaign PUBLICLY announce THEIR list of 10-12.SA68AG said:
With CNN moderating the debate I feel comfortable in predicting the emphasis of the debate will be
January 6
Abortion
Trump's legal issues and moral fitness
Climate change
Collusion with Putin
Little on the economy, immigration, or world affairs or anything else that really matters
That way EVERYONE knows what the lists are from each campaign...and will know if CNN favors one side or the other.
And a limit on fake tan? And no adult diapers for anyone talking about the others age
UAS Ag said:I'd say it's about 14-15 years in cognitive decline...BoydCrowder13 said:Gigem314 said:Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.Old McDonald said:
trump is incapable of speaking a paragraph without rambling off on an incoherent tangent. he's falling asleep in courtrooms. he's a shell of his 2016 self. your media diet hides these moments from you while playing Biden's on a 24/7 loop because it's in their interest for you not to know better.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies.
One would have to be as senile as Biden to think he and Trump are basically the same. Which we all know is 100% false, but it's the best argument your side has to combat the abysmal failure that Biden and policies have been for the country.
Trump is about 4-5 years behind Biden in terms of decline. Watching the difference in Trump between 2016 and 2024 is roughly the same as the difference from Biden in 2012 to 2020.
Biden is clearly older and frailer.
Trump of 2024 is not the same as Trump 2016. Not sure that anyone can deny that. Time is the great equalizer.
We had a retirement party today for a 63 year old. It's crazy that in 15-20 years, she could be running for president.
As to that last comment, when I first started work at LTV, I worked with an engineer who was 65 years old. His hobby was...wait for it...power lifting. This guy was jacked. A few months after I got in that group, he had to go on vacation because his parents were celebrating their 72nd wedding anniversary...
Moral of the story - not all people decline NEARLY at the same rate.
Hell, my Dad is 83 and he's WAY more cognitively lucid than many people his age (thank god).
BoydCrowder13 said:UAS Ag said:I'd say it's about 14-15 years in cognitive decline...BoydCrowder13 said:Gigem314 said:Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.Old McDonald said:
trump is incapable of speaking a paragraph without rambling off on an incoherent tangent. he's falling asleep in courtrooms. he's a shell of his 2016 self. your media diet hides these moments from you while playing Biden's on a 24/7 loop because it's in their interest for you not to know better.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies.
One would have to be as senile as Biden to think he and Trump are basically the same. Which we all know is 100% false, but it's the best argument your side has to combat the abysmal failure that Biden and policies have been for the country.
Trump is about 4-5 years behind Biden in terms of decline. Watching the difference in Trump between 2016 and 2024 is roughly the same as the difference from Biden in 2012 to 2020.
Biden is clearly older and frailer.
Trump of 2024 is not the same as Trump 2016. Not sure that anyone can deny that. Time is the great equalizer.
We had a retirement party today for a 63 year old. It's crazy that in 15-20 years, she could be running for president.
As to that last comment, when I first started work at LTV, I worked with an engineer who was 65 years old. His hobby was...wait for it...power lifting. This guy was jacked. A few months after I got in that group, he had to go on vacation because his parents were celebrating their 72nd wedding anniversary...
Moral of the story - not all people decline NEARLY at the same rate.
Hell, my Dad is 83 and he's WAY more cognitively lucid than many people his age (thank god).
That's great about your dad. But there is a big difference between "way more cognitively lucid than most people his age" and leading the country.
Well, sure...BoydCrowder13 said:UAS Ag said:I'd say it's about 14-15 years in cognitive decline...BoydCrowder13 said:Gigem314 said:Trump has always rambled, so no that's not a valid reason. So he fell asleep in the courtroom, that's the best you can do? Your guy Biden fell asleep during the SOTU as VP long before you cheered him on in 2020.Old McDonald said:
trump is incapable of speaking a paragraph without rambling off on an incoherent tangent. he's falling asleep in courtrooms. he's a shell of his 2016 self. your media diet hides these moments from you while playing Biden's on a 24/7 loop because it's in their interest for you not to know better.
The media hides Biden's senile moments, along with his disastrous policies.
One would have to be as senile as Biden to think he and Trump are basically the same. Which we all know is 100% false, but it's the best argument your side has to combat the abysmal failure that Biden and policies have been for the country.
Trump is about 4-5 years behind Biden in terms of decline. Watching the difference in Trump between 2016 and 2024 is roughly the same as the difference from Biden in 2012 to 2020.
Biden is clearly older and frailer.
Trump of 2024 is not the same as Trump 2016. Not sure that anyone can deny that. Time is the great equalizer.
We had a retirement party today for a 63 year old. It's crazy that in 15-20 years, she could be running for president.
As to that last comment, when I first started work at LTV, I worked with an engineer who was 65 years old. His hobby was...wait for it...power lifting. This guy was jacked. A few months after I got in that group, he had to go on vacation because his parents were celebrating their 72nd wedding anniversary...
Moral of the story - not all people decline NEARLY at the same rate.
Hell, my Dad is 83 and he's WAY more cognitively lucid than many people his age (thank god).
That's great about your dad. But there is a big difference between "way more cognitively lucid than most people his age" and leading the country.
Waiting for the counter to this that doesn't include adult diapers and orange coloring. How about some substance instead of drive by trolling. Or list out all the great things Biden has done.Logos Stick said:TheHungryDonkey said:Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
What policy are you speaking of?
Abortion
Foreign Policy
Immigration
Trade
Taxes
Energy
Regulation
I could go on
Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Waiting for the counter to this that doesn't include adult diapers and orange coloring. How about some substance instead of drive by trolling. Or list out all the great things Biden has done.Logos Stick said:TheHungryDonkey said:Logos Stick said:Pumpkinhead said:
I cringe thinking of those two people 'debating' as apparently the best candidates for President our country could come up with. Embarrassing. Biden is ready for assisted living and Trump will probably be an undisciplined clown who veers off policies into just making it all about him personally, such as complaining and dwelling on the the 2020 election, all the New York trial stuff, and so forth.
I am not sure I'd even want to watch. Ot certainly won't be if I am looking for an actual professional debate. Only if interested in a car wreck I suppose.
Policy wise, Trump was the best prez since Reagan.
Your post makes no sense.
What policy are you speaking of?
Abortion
Foreign Policy
Immigration
Trade
Taxes
Energy
Regulation
I could go on
C'mon man, it will be LIVE, so how can they edit the answers?? I LOVE that the opponents mic will be turned off while the other answers the questions. That will stop Trump from his rude and annoying habit of talking over others. Bring it on!Sims said:
No audience just means they can edit however they want and noone will know the diff.
That just screams transparency that the incumbent Presidential candidate would not debate in front of actual people.
Ignorance is bliss my friend.Opalka said:C'mon man, it will be LIVE, so how can they edit the answers?? I LOVE that the opponents mic will be turned off while the other answers the questions. That will stop Trump from his rude and annoying habit of talking over others. Bring it on!Sims said:
No audience just means they can edit however they want and noone will know the diff.
That just screams transparency that the incumbent Presidential candidate would not debate in front of actual people.
Opalka said:C'mon man, it will be LIVE, so how can they edit the answers?? I LOVE that the opponents mic will be turned off while the other answers the questions. That will stop Trump from his rude and annoying habit of talking over others. Bring it on!Sims said:
No audience just means they can edit however they want and noone will know the diff.
That just screams transparency that the incumbent Presidential candidate would not debate in front of actual people.
LMCane said:
again, Trump's big mouth led to stupid strategic mistakes
when Trump dared Biden to debate him "with no conditions" that just set the stage for the last 5 pages of Trumpers complaining!
how can you not see this- that TIME AFTER TIME for 7 years now it is Trump's mouth that gets him into trouble because he is so undisciplined?!
he never should have dared Biden "with any conditions"- only a dummy does that!
HTownAg98 said:LMCane said:
again, Trump's big mouth led to stupid strategic mistakes
when Trump dared Biden to debate him "with no conditions" that just set the stage for the last 5 pages of Trumpers complaining!
how can you not see this- that TIME AFTER TIME for 7 years now it is Trump's mouth that gets him into trouble because he is so undisciplined?!
he never should have dared Biden "with any conditions"- only a dummy does that!
The Biden campaign set this trap, and Trump walked right into it.
And to those that think the feed will be edited, that's preposterous. Both sides will have staffers off-stage watching, and they would know instantly if something is being edited.
Quote:
"They asked [Trump] to go visit American gravesites. He said, 'No.' He wouldn't do it. Because they were all 'suckers' and 'losers,'"
SA68AG said:
With CNN moderating the debate I feel comfortable in predicting the emphasis of the debate will be
January 6
Abortion
Trump's legal issues and moral fitness
Climate change
Collusion with Putin
Little on the economy, immigration, or world affairs or anything else that really matters
