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Woods Ag said:

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That's a cop out.

You have 2 options. Make a choice like a big boy

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Insults stopped working on me when I got out of middle school.

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That's exactly what someone who is affected by an insult would say.

MiamiHopper said:

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I don't think taking pictures of cover sheets covering classified documents affects the charges against Trump.

I also don't think that selective prosecution is an issue here. Where is the case of someone not being charged for withholding docs containing NDA upon issue of a grand jury subpoena? Where is the case of some else who refused to return documents upon demand yet was not charged?

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Where is the case of issuing a grand jury subpoena for others that have had similar information? THAT is the selective prosecution part.

But, then, you know that and you don't care. As long as TRUMP gets punished.

HarleySpoon said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Woods Ag said:

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That's a cop out.

You have 2 options. Make a choice like a big boy

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Insults stopped working on me when I got out of middle school.

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That's exactly what someone who is affected by an insult would say.

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If the expected effect was to make me want to vote for POTUS this year, it failed. So, how are you thinking I'm affected by it?

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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eric76 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Stop this, eric. Again, Sandy Berger literally stole documents by putting them in his pants. Nothing happened to him. Joe Biden stole documents and kept them where literal Chinese had access to them.

This was all a setup, and is an attempt to jail the opposition candidate. It's happening in front of your face and you refuse to wake up.

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You must have a poor memory. Berger actually did plead guilty and get a $10,000 fine and no prison time. It was certainly not enough of a sentence, but to say "nothing happened to him" is just flat wrong. I looked it up just now -- he also lost his security clearance.

Trump could have avoided this if he would have cooperated with them to return the documents. That he didn't is all on Trump, not the FBI, not the DOJ, and not the current piece of crap administration.

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"NARA had ongoing communications with the representatives of former President Trump throughout 2021, which resulted in the transfer of 15 boxes to NARA in January 2022," David Ferriero, who served as NARA director from November 2009 until April, wrote to House Oversight Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., in response to an inquiry in February.

He said that the agency was in the process of inventorying the contents of the boxes as of Feb. 18.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-vs-national-archives-timeline-leading-mar-a-lago-raid

There was cooperation. At issue is a he said-crooked administration said about what wasn't returned. That's the heart of the matter so quit with your "didn't cooperate" if you are going to play word games.

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Funny how he jumps all over someone casually claiming 'nothing happened' to Berger but then in the same sentence casually claims Trump didn't cooperate when evidence shows that he actually did. Always minimizing what the Dems do wrong and exaggerating what the Republicans do wrong.

Ag with kids said:

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Woods Ag said:

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That's a cop out.

You have 2 options. Make a choice like a big boy

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Insults stopped working on me when I got out of middle school.

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It's okay. You've told us many times.

Probably best to ignore the other posters.

MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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Oh really? He had stuff from when he was a SENATOR - That was 17 years ago. Why didn't he give it back LONG ago?

Oh...and it was 100% illegal for him to have taken it in the first place. Senators (and VPs) don't have original classification authority.

Apparently substantial chain of custody problems with the evidence.

It was packed up by FOUR different federal entities at different times/places and delivered at different times. Some of it was sent from federal storage to Mar Al Lago as long as 9 months AFTER the trump presidency ended. The FBI raid did not determine which cache of boxes and which associated evidence were part of which consignment and originally packed by which entity. The evidence was subsequently mixed when it was inventoried so nobody can be sure if a particular document was part of a certain shipment and which entity was responsible for reviewing/sorting/packing it.

On top of that, during the subsequent investigation, the DOJ has now had to admit some of the recovered original evidence is now lost/misplaced.

What a total **** show.

On top of all this, there is no reliable indication Trump himself was responsible for personally selecting and packing any specific portion of it, and therefore knew the contents and its status.

This case did need to be halted and re-examined for legal viability.

MiamiHopper said:

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Does this mean that Trump did not willfully retain documents containing national defense information and did not return them when demanded?

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Considering the prosecution has coordinated all of this with the Biden regime, continually staged evidence, tampered with evidence, leaked, lied, played legal games, illegally conducted this witch hunt, violated Trump's constitutional rights, intentionally used a Grand Jury in the wrong jurisdiction, hidden evidence from the defense, and hidden evidence from the judge, I would say yes.

MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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He stole some of the documents decades ago. He did not "cooperate."

Ag with kids said:

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MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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Oh really? He had stuff from when he was a SENATOR - That was 17 years ago. Why didn't he give it back LONG ago?

Oh...and it was 100% illegal for him to have taken it in the first place. Senators (and VPs) don't have original classification authority.

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And when busted was ruled too mentally incompetent to be held accountable. And on top of that, Biden blamed it all on his staff.

Such great leadership we have.

MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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How do you "fully cooperate" without defending what you believe is right? Given all the lawfare going on with Trump, how do you define the term "unlikely"?

any claims made against Trump now will be assumed to be made up

Because they always are.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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How do you "fully cooperate" without defending what you believe is right? Given all the lawfare going on with Trump, how do you define the term "unlikely"?

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And he kept some of the documents at the Chinese Penn Biden Center, where we have no idea which members of the CCP had access to them.

I am sure giving the docs back after his Chinese masters had all the info was no big deal, especially because he didn't even get a slap on the wrist and got to keep all of the bribe money.

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HarleySpoon said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Woods Ag said:

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That's a cop out.

You have 2 options. Make a choice like a big boy

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Insults stopped working on me when I got out of middle school.

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That's exactly what someone who is affected by an insult would say.

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If the expected effect was to make me want to vote for POTUS this year, it failed. So, how are you thinking I'm affected by it?

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I have no idea what his expected impact was on you...your argument that his comment is not impacting you is with the guy that is impacting you. Honestly, I haven't even gone back and read the imbedded quotes to know what he said about you. I just know that when someone gets into and argument about an actual or perceived insult, then the actual or perceived insult is having some impact. We ignore comments either positive or negative that have no impact on us. For example, your comment impacted me....I found it humorous that an adult would make that statement. The impact of your comment impacted me to the extent that I replied and quoted your comment. That then illicited a response...which I again found humorous and impacted me to the point that I am writing this response. Come on man.....surely you think it's funny for an adult to say: "You're insult didn't work on me....and I'm no longer in middle school." That's funny stuff. You're starting to making seem like you weren't trying to be humorous. Now don't you find it quite humorous that someone that wasn't even in your discourse has written this epistle simply to say...."that's funny stuff."

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Stop this, eric. Again, Sandy Berger literally stole documents by putting them in his pants. Nothing happened to him. Joe Biden stole documents and kept them where literal Chinese had access to them.

This was all a setup, and is an attempt to jail the opposition candidate. It's happening in front of your face and you refuse to wake up.

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This.

General Jack D. Ripper said:

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I could have sworn we knew this shortly after. Maybe I'm having a Mandela moment,.

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Me too.

And not the dumb metoo.

HarleySpoon said:

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Ag with kids said:

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HarleySpoon said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Woods Ag said:

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That's a cop out.

You have 2 options. Make a choice like a big boy

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Insults stopped working on me when I got out of middle school.

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That's exactly what someone who is affected by an insult would say.

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If the expected effect was to make me want to vote for POTUS this year, it failed. So, how are you thinking I'm affected by it?

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I have no idea what his expected impact was on you...your argument that his comment is not impacting you is with the guy that is impacting you. Honestly, I haven't even gone back and read the imbedded quotes to know what he said about you. I just know that when someone gets into and argument about an actual or perceived insult, then the actual or perceived insult is having some impact. We ignore comments either positive or negative that have no impact on us. For example, your comment impacted me....I found it humorous that an adult would make that statement. The impact of your comment impacted me to the extent that I replied and quoted your comment. That then illicited a response...which I again found humorous and impacted me to the point that I am writing this response. Come on man.....surely you think it's funny for an adult to say: "You're insult didn't work on me....and I'm no longer in middle school." That's funny stuff. You're starting to making seem like you weren't trying to be humorous. Now don't you find it quite humorous that someone that wasn't even in your discourse has written this epistle simply to say...."that's funny stuff."

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It appears you misunderstood my response to him (and misread it).

But, I'm glad you were affected enough to respond to me. Shows you care. I'm flattered.

TyHolden said:

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stuff like this is why we all know Trump has no chance at winning the election. they will do everything and anything to make sure this doesn't happen.

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They would do it to any Republican candidate.

Things are getting so big now though I don't think they can do what they did in 2020. At least I hope not. We need Trump back in office.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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MiamiHopper said:

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" Now do Biden."

He cooperated. So did Pence. If Trump had fully cooperated it is unlikely that he would have been indicted in FL.

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How do you "fully cooperate" without defending what you believe is right? Given all the lawfare going on with Trump, how do you define the term "unlikely"?

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And he kept some of the documents at the Chinese Penn Biden Center, where we have no idea which members of the CCP had access to them.

I am sure giving the docs back after his Chinese masters had all the info was no big deal, especially because he didn't even get a slap on the wrist and got to keep all of the bribe money.

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You're a much better man than I am.

Healthy discussions and debates are outstanding.

Complete lack of reason and logic is infuriating.

fasthorse05 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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And he kept some of the documents at the Chinese Penn Biden Center, where we have no idea which members of the CCP had access to them.

I am sure giving the docs back after his Chinese masters had all the info was no big deal, especially because he didn't even get a slap on the wrist and got to keep all of the bribe money.

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You're a much better man than I am.

Healthy discussions and debates are outstanding.

Complete lack of reason and logic is infuriating.

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As is propaganda. Some posters have brought nothing but propaganda to this board for years. And others refuse to see through it, no matter how many times they're sucked in.

Propaganda is a huge tool of the left these days, as the subject of this thread proves. In fact, propaganda does much more to advance the cause of big government than facts do.

It's all for the kids.

Oh look, another hoax FBI crime. I recommend clicking thru:

Another fed trap. This time, a man who appears to be a loner in Arizona who takes care of an 82-year-old man and goes to gun shows.

Set up by another seasoned FBI informant (CHS) pic.twitter.com/sGfUu4yUfe

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) June 19, 2024

FED: Are we gonna do the fed thing that the feds thought up?

FED VICTIM: Ok

FED: Also don't forget to bring your confederate flag to the crime scene and also please say some stuff about BLM into my key fob that's a recording device

FED VICTIM: Ok pic.twitter.com/dvmoNRruKm

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) June 19, 2024

Note; guy was a moron, but the FBI is really pretty dangerous at this point.

And they're using these fake plots that they set up to create fake news that they then cite to tell the world how dangerous the right is to America. Gay and trans activists are slaughtering people, and gun rights folks are being entrapped. Sounds like a country with two systems of justice.