NoahAg said:

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Blue no matter who.
I fully expect Biden to get *90MM votes this time.

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Have 9 million people really died since 2020? That's nuts

This thread went about as expected. Four posters actually responded and all be but one were berated and called idiots. Never change, f16. Never change.

Jeeper79 said:

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northeastag said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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I voted for Biden in 2020. It was an anti-Trump vote. I won't vote for him again. But I also still won't vote for Trump.

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Well I'm not sure I believe you, as it is really hard to just "sit it out" when the time for actual voting arrives. But I suspect there are quite a few voters (like you) from both sides thinking the same thing. RFK Jr may get more votes, or there may simply just be lower overall turnout.

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If you can't accept the truth when it staring you in the face because the whole concept of truth has been purposely distorted from all directions and trust levels have dropped into the basement, we have a much bigger problem that can't be solved with an election.

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What in the heck are you talking about. The truth is staring me in the face? I just said that I wasn't sure I believe you'd go through with not voting for one of the two major candidates. I also ventured there are probably a lot of people like you. How in the world is that "ignoring the truth"?

Gordo14 said:

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I will vote for Biden, but it's the GOPs fault because there are very few people that would make me vote for Biden. My ultimate objective is to get the GOP back to a sane and healthier place post-Trump and that only likely happens if he loses. But it doesn't matter because I don't live in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.

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There are folks who have to rely on others to discern colors….then there are others who can not discern politics and end up voting for the things that they complain the most about.

Just take any complaint offered up by a Biden voter against Trump and that complaint with some sig multiplier is applicable to Biden.

My favorite claim by Biden supporters is the believe in a Republic Democracy, they support the military and the constitution……..then without taking a second breath start bleeping nonsense about Trump.

northeastag said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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northeastag said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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I voted for Biden in 2020. It was an anti-Trump vote. I won't vote for him again. But I also still won't vote for Trump.

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Well I'm not sure I believe you, as it is really hard to just "sit it out" when the time for actual voting arrives. But I suspect there are quite a few voters (like you) from both sides thinking the same thing. RFK Jr may get more votes, or there may simply just be lower overall turnout.

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If you can't accept the truth when it staring you in the face because the whole concept of truth has been purposely distorted from all directions and trust levels have dropped into the basement, we have a much bigger problem that can't be solved with an election.

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What in the heck are you talking about. The truth is staring me in the face? I just said that I wasn't sure I believe you'd go through with not voting for one of the two major candidates. I also ventured there are probably a lot of people like you. How in the world is that "ignoring the truth"?

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I told you what I'd do. That's the truth. You don't know whether to believe it or not.

Maroon Dawn said:

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They will but none of them will actually admit it. They'll claim that they're supporting some non-factor 3rd party candidate to avoid having to defend their vote for Dork Brandon

We all know who these posters are

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Yup. And you can't reason with them. They will stand behind their "principles " and "morals" and make a decision that leads to everyone being worse off, but at least they can sleep soundly at night feeling that they are righteous. Some will say that they don't live in a swing state so it doesn't matter, and some will say they're playing the long game where they want the GOP to be burned to the ground and rebuilt in a perfect, more conservative fashion.

They think they're being principled in their decisions, but they're just too foolish to understand the consequences of their actions. Sometimes adults have to make hard choices, not just the one that makes them feel the best.

YokelRidesAgain said:

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Jim Hogg is angry said:

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Are you planning to vote for him this election cycle? If so, why? If not, why not?

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I have voted Democrat in six straight Presidential elections (voted Libertarian in 1996), of course including voting for Biden in 2020.

I will not vote for Biden this year.

Why? In short, Biden has failed to deliver on the implied promise of basic competence, dating back to the Orwellian "Inflation Reduction Act" and the disastrous fall of Kabul.

And far from moderating the worst impulses of the woke left, the Biden administration has acquiesced to divisions of society on the basis of who is allowed to claim victimhood. (The government, of course, decides who is and is not a worthy victim.)

And lastly, RFK Jr. is a lunatic moonbat, but he's absolutely right: employing the Justice department to try to jail your political rivals is a more insidious and greater threat to democracy than Trump's stupid Capitol riot.

If you told me in 2020 that I was going to vote for Trump in 2024, I would have laughed at you. But here we are.

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Respectable take.

Well done.

Jeeper79 said:

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I voted for Biden in 2020. It was an anti-Trump vote. I won't vote for him again. But I also still won't vote for Trump.

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That's not how math works. What a wasted vote. Doesn't your vote mean anything? Your vote is valuable. Vote for something otherwise don't vote.

Jeeper79 said:

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I voted for Biden in 2020. It was an anti-Trump vote. I won't vote for him again. But I also still won't vote for Trump.

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Why?

Two of my good friends voted for Biden in spite of Trump in 2020. They both are huge Trump supporters now. And yes I remind them of their vote anytime they ***** about inflation, taxes or woke DEI *****

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CNN host Fareed Zakaria said on this week's broadcast of "GPS Sunday" that the criminal charges brought against former President Donald Trump in New York City were politically motivated.

Zakaria said, "Trump is now leading in almost all the swing states, but behind those numbers lie even more troubling details. As someone worried about the prospects of a second Trump term, I think it is best to be honest about reality. I understand that polls are not always accurate, but in general, they have tended to underestimate Donald Trump's support, not overestimate it. I doubt that there are many shy Biden voters in the country."

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That is something people tend to overlook. No shy Biden voters except for on forum 16.

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He added, "Republicans seem to be uniting behind Trump. Whatever opposition he faced in the primaries has largely melted away. And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base, who sees him as a martyr and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated. This happens to be true. In my opinion, I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump. A majority of Americans are skeptical that Trump will be able to get a fair trial according to a CNN poll."

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Birdwatcher said:

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I will crawl through broken glass to vote for Joseph Robinette Biden a 2nd time this November. Trump is a disgusting pile of filth

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You go gurl.

Biden is a saint

America largely prospered for four years under Trump. And America has largely suffered under four years of Biden.

Nothing else matters. It's a simple decision. But clearly, there are still some (insert word for people that make repeatedly stupid decisions) on this thread.

Somethings not quite right with "Jeeper79". Either his parents threw him in the air and forgot to catch him while a baby, or he has been brainwashed and dipped in some sort of illusionary doctrine to trust in the political establishment. This isn't an election for personality plus, this is about saving our country from Marxist/Commie nuts. There is only one choice to that end. Trump!

YokelRidesAgain said:

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Jim Hogg is angry said:

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Are you planning to vote for him this election cycle? If so, why? If not, why not?

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I have voted Democrat in six straight Presidential elections (voted Libertarian in 1996), of course including voting for Biden in 2020.

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Wow, might be the first person ever on this board to honestly declare this.

There should be 80,999,999 others, but we dont really hear from them.

Odd, don't you think? For being the most popular President in the history of our country and all. Very few will proclaim that they actually voted for him, even the really ******ed ones.

Gordo14 said:

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I will vote for Biden, but it's the GOPs fault because there are very few people that would make me vote for Biden. My ultimate objective is to get the GOP back to a sane and healthier place post-Trump and that only likely happens if he loses. But it doesn't matter because I don't live in Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.

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It isn't the GOP's fault you are a biden voter. Take personal responsibility. I doubt many believe that anyone who votes for biden really has the objective to "get the GOP back to a sane and healthier place."

dreyOO said:

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America largely prospered for four years under Trump. And America has largely suffered under four years of Biden.

Nothing else matters. It's a simple decision. But clearly, there are still some (insert word for people that make repeatedly stupid decisions) on this thread.

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Lemming: a person who follows the will of others, especially in a mass movement, and heads straight into a situation or circumstance that is dangerous, stupid, or destructive.

aka Biden lemmings.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Wow, might be the first person ever on this board to honestly declare this.

There should be 80,999,999 others, but we dont really hear from them.

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Does it not also seem odd to you that Donald Trump got 5 million more votes than Barack Obama in 2008? Except for Biden, he got the most votes in the history of the country by a substantial amount.

If you make it really easy for people to vote, many of them do. This isn't rocket surgery.

No, it's no one's fault but yours. You are not very smart if you vote for Biden.

He's not very smart either, and hasnt been his entire life, but now he very clearly has dementia, so you voting for him is even more inexcusable.

But yeah, whatever ghosts you are scared of will still exist after Joe is dead in like 2 years.

He's the only incumbent president to gain votes (a lot of them) and lose.

And if you dont think there's anything strange about that, well, then you're a democrat.

The idiot you voted for didnt even attempt to run a campaign. and yet still got he most votes ever. Interdasting.

BadMoonRisin said:

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He's the only incumbent president to gain votes (a lot of them) and lose.

And if you dont think there's anything strange about that, well, then you're a democrat.

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How many incumbent Presidents faced a vote by mail election?

It's amusing how many of you believe that you can draw a valid conclusion with an n=1.

None. The left ran the 2020 election like American Idol. It was an absolute disgrace.

But you love it, dont you. Because it got your dog**** brain "president" elected.

Enjoy the clownworld that you voted for. You deserve it.

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They will but none of them will actually admit it. They'll claim that they're supporting some non-factor 3rd party candidate to avoid having to defend their vote for Dork Brandon

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Jeeper79 said:

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I voted for Biden in 2020. It was an anti-Trump vote. I won't vote for him again. But I also still won't vote for Trump.

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Local lefty already proving me right. Jeepers will 100% vote Biden but he doesn't want to defend his vote for Peepaw Poopy Pants

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Ive voted R my whole life with the exception of Trump, but whatever helps you sleep better, I guess.

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God he even does the full classic Concerned Moderate bit! "I've ALWAYS voted Republican my whole life! Please ignore literally every post I've ever made on this board where I do nothing but goalie for Democrats!"

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The opinion of some rando in a message board such as yourself carries no weight in my day to day goings on. The thing that does take up head space for me is that the die has already been cast for this cycle, and no matter who wins, we all lose (and likely not by a small margin).

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With one of the choices, we will be much better off in terms of the border, inflation, the economy, taxes, energy independence, and on many other levels. Even you biden supporters know which candidate that is. But whatever helps you sleep better, I guess.

BadMoonRisin said:

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But you love it, dont you. Because it got your dog**** brain "president" elected.

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I'm on the record here already. Biden failed.

I'm for your guy now.

Another amusing thing is why Trump is going to win this election (which he will).

Hint: it has very little to do with what people on F16 want.

YokelRidesAgain said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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He's the only incumbent president to gain votes (a lot of them) and lose.

And if you dont think there's anything strange about that, well, then you're a democrat.

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How many incumbent Presidents faced a vote by mail election?

It's amusing how many of you believe that you can draw a valid conclusion with an n=1.

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How many had states violating their own election laws, doing things like not verifying signatures?

Birdwatcher said:

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I will crawl through broken glass piles of dirty Depends to vote for Joseph Robinette Biden a 2nd time this November. Trump is a disgusting pile of filth

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Birdwatcher said:

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I will crawl through broken glass to vote for Joseph Robinette Biden a 2nd time this November. Trump is a disgusting pile of filth

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Myself and my entire family (wife, 4 daughters, SIL, FIL, MIL, Father, Mother) look forward to cancelling your vote.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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How many had states violating their own election laws, doing things like not verifying signatures?

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Many. What's your point?

I'm sure that there was a whole lot of cheating going on, on an individual level.

Previous restrictions made it slightly harder to cheat, for morons. It was not that hard in the first place, in most jurisdictions.

For example, my ex-wife's mother requested an absentee ballot in her name and voted for her in 2004 in Florida (for GWB). Was that, technically, a felony? Yup. Did anyone find out about it, or care? Nope.

Doubtlessly, many people on both sides voted on behalf of their demented or otherwise incapacitated relatives in 2020. What has not been documented is any actual evidence of a bias in favor of one side or another.

taterchip said:

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Somethings not quite right with "Jeeper79". Either his parents threw him in the air and forgot to catch him while a baby, or he has been brainwashed and dipped in some sort of illusionary doctrine to trust in the political establishment. This isn't an election for personality plus, this is about saving our country from Marxist/Commie nuts. There is only one choice to that end. Trump!

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Youre severely disillusioned if you think this country would be better with 4 more years of Trump. I understand the anyone-but-a-D voters and I understand the he's-all-we-got voters.

But MAGA voters really screwed the pooch when we had other (better) options in the primary. Now no matter who wins, we all lose.

And as a non-MAGA, I'm capable of saying such things without resorting to name calling or questioning the mental capacity of people I don't agree with. Or at the very least, I have the self-awareness and decency to not say it out loud. You're only proving my point for me on why Trump sucks. Congratulations on being the perfect represent for him, though. You sound just like him.