aggiesed8r said:

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Wow! This thread got out of hand quick.

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This board is a good reminder to separate the belief from the believer.

MouthBQ98 said:

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The left loves to subvert the portion of Christian belief that happens to somewhat align with leftist dogma. They want Christians to discard the rest of the religion in favor of adopting more leftist ideology. It is how they subvert any institution and direct its resources to their own religious political system.

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"He Gets Us" has faced criticism over the extensive spending by the campaign, its donors' support of anti-abortion and anti-LGBT groups, and disputes over claims that the campaign is apolitical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Gets_Us

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The left doesn't like these ads either.

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you remember, Jesus included the most provocative situations for his parables. The Samaritans were considered religious outcasts, and his point in the parable was that we need to consider the more uncomfortable facts about ourselves. He could have made it more digestible for the people who were listening, but he didn't. Is it our jobs to serve those who are our neighbors? He gave us that answer. He even told us who our neighbors are, and it doesn't jive with what we really want them to be.

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You're confirming what we're all saying: this ad is a liberal Christian condemnation of conservative Christians. It isn't calling anyone to Christ (or the church), it isn't calling for unity, and it isn't engaging with issues at a substantive level to further the church. It's just here to gloat like the Pharisee rather than pray like the publican (which, ironically, you seem to miss - the ad is a plank in the eye of those who made it).

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I don't see any of that, but I guess you are going to see what you are looking for. I can tell you that if we are bristling at the idea of Jesus serving those whom we don't like politically, that is an us problem, and one that he specifically called out.

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You can read and understand biblical parables but when an advert pops up you just nod your head and obey without thinking? Right…

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I am absolutely in favor of skepticism, especially when it comes to marketing, but the criticism had better be for the right reasons, and so far it has all I've seen is versions of people acting like Pharisees, deciding who we have and have not been called to serve. Conveniently, all the ones deserving just happen to agree with us.

There are plenty of things that I am sure are legitimate points of contention, but that should not be one of them.

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Let's apply your skepticism then. Who do you think the target audience of these ads is? You think the left-coded groups will see these and walk into church seeking to repent and turn from their sins? Who is Jesus 'getting' in these ads?

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Is this a real question? It is aimed to challenge some preconceived notions of Jesus. It's not meant to be steps 1 to 100 of salvation. It's aimed at turning a closed ear of someone who would immediately say no because of politics or something else unrelated into a possible open ear to hear something new to them

Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you remember, Jesus included the most provocative situations for his parables. The Samaritans were considered religious outcasts, and his point in the parable was that we need to consider the more uncomfortable facts about ourselves. He could have made it more digestible for the people who were listening, but he didn't. Is it our jobs to serve those who are our neighbors? He gave us that answer. He even told us who our neighbors are, and it doesn't jive with what we really want them to be.

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You're confirming what we're all saying: this ad is a liberal Christian condemnation of conservative Christians. It isn't calling anyone to Christ (or the church), it isn't calling for unity, and it isn't engaging with issues at a substantive level to further the church. It's just here to gloat like the Pharisee rather than pray like the publican (which, ironically, you seem to miss - the ad is a plank in the eye of those who made it).

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I don't see any of that, but I guess you are going to see what you are looking for. I can tell you that if we are bristling at the idea of Jesus serving those whom we don't like politically, that is an us problem, and one that he specifically called out.

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You can read and understand biblical parables but when an advert pops up you just nod your head and obey without thinking? Right…

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I am absolutely in favor of skepticism, especially when it comes to marketing, but the criticism had better be for the right reasons, and so far it has all I've seen is versions of people acting like Pharisees, deciding who we have and have not been called to serve. Conveniently, all the ones deserving just happen to agree with us.

There are plenty of things that I am sure are legitimate points of contention, but that should not be one of them.

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Let's apply your skepticism then. Who do you think the target audience of these ads is? You think the left-coded groups will see these and walk into church seeking to repent and turn from their sins? Who is Jesus 'getting' in these ads?

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Is this a real question? It is aimed to challenge some preconceived notions of Jesus. It's not meant to be steps 1 to 100 of salvation. It's aimed at turning a closed ear of someone who would immediately say no because of politics or something else unrelated into a possible open ear to hear something new to them

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So a woman who is pro-choice watches this and says…what?

Seems like a thread for the R&P board to me. Sorry we all aren't staunch Christians bc we went to TAMU

Try not clicking or posting.

You're welcome.

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It's a hard thing to get just right. The world has told all of the people these commercials are aimed at that Christianity and Christians are their enemy. Politics has told Christians that their opposites on the left are the enemy, and so we tend to reinforce that lie. We as Christians are as polarized as anyone is in this culture.

God has told us the opposite. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood. God does not see left vs right, man vs woman, black vs white. We are all sinners in need of a savior. We all have the same starting point, whether we are "right" (politically or socially) or not. So no, the message is not heretical. It is a starting point, and as long as it is just the starting point to begin the relationship with the One who matters, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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Everything you said is based on assumptions, and the assumptions are wrong. There is no "starting point" apart from the Gospel. The ad plays, you go their website, and then there is a promotion for a "study" and bunch of links to social justice talking points. No Gospel to be found anywhere. Its trash.

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I've never visited the site before, but it looks like they have gospel linked to most of the pieces I clicked on.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/what-is-foot-washing-and-what-does-it-symbolize

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Scripture References: John 13:1-17, Matthew 23:11-12, Luke 7:37-50

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/loving-your-neighbor-is-nearly-impossible-how-can-we-do-it

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Scripture References: Luke 10:25-37, John 13:1-17

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/jesus-was-exclusively-inclusive

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Scripture References: Romans 12:15-18, Galatians 3:28, John 4:1-29, Luke 8:1-3

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What???? None of the links you just shared have the Gospel anywhere. They all talk about "how Jesus wanted us to treat others"

Faustus said:

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tk111 said:

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Phatbob said:

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It's a hard thing to get just right. The world has told all of the people these commercials are aimed at that Christianity and Christians are their enemy. Politics has told Christians that their opposites on the left are the enemy, and so we tend to reinforce that lie. We as Christians are as polarized as anyone is in this culture.

God has told us the opposite. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood. God does not see left vs right, man vs woman, black vs white. We are all sinners in need of a savior. We all have the same starting point, whether we are "right" (politically or socially) or not. So no, the message is not heretical. It is a starting point, and as long as it is just the starting point to begin the relationship with the One who matters, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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Everything you said is based on assumptions, and the assumptions are wrong. There is no "starting point" apart from the Gospel. The ad plays, you go their website, and then there is a promotion for a "study" and bunch of links to social justice talking points. No Gospel to be found anywhere. Its trash.

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I've never visited the site before, but it looks like they have gospel linked to most of the pieces I clicked on.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/what-is-foot-washing-and-what-does-it-symbolize

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Scripture References: John 13:1-17, Matthew 23:11-12, Luke 7:37-50

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/loving-your-neighbor-is-nearly-impossible-how-can-we-do-it

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Scripture References: Luke 10:25-37, John 13:1-17

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/jesus-was-exclusively-inclusive

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Scripture References: Romans 12:15-18, Galatians 3:28, John 4:1-29, Luke 8:1-3

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etc.

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What would you say the Gospel is?

Tramp96 said:

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Faustus said:

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tk111 said:

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Phatbob said:

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It's a hard thing to get just right. The world has told all of the people these commercials are aimed at that Christianity and Christians are their enemy. Politics has told Christians that their opposites on the left are the enemy, and so we tend to reinforce that lie. We as Christians are as polarized as anyone is in this culture.

God has told us the opposite. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood. God does not see left vs right, man vs woman, black vs white. We are all sinners in need of a savior. We all have the same starting point, whether we are "right" (politically or socially) or not. So no, the message is not heretical. It is a starting point, and as long as it is just the starting point to begin the relationship with the One who matters, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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Everything you said is based on assumptions, and the assumptions are wrong. There is no "starting point" apart from the Gospel. The ad plays, you go their website, and then there is a promotion for a "study" and bunch of links to social justice talking points. No Gospel to be found anywhere. Its trash.

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I've never visited the site before, but it looks like they have gospel linked to most of the pieces I clicked on.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/what-is-foot-washing-and-what-does-it-symbolize

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Scripture References: John 13:1-17, Matthew 23:11-12, Luke 7:37-50

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/loving-your-neighbor-is-nearly-impossible-how-can-we-do-it

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Scripture References: Luke 10:25-37, John 13:1-17

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/jesus-was-exclusively-inclusive

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Scripture References: Romans 12:15-18, Galatians 3:28, John 4:1-29, Luke 8:1-3

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etc.

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What would you say the Gospel is?

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I assumed "gospel" had multiple meanings, one of which was scripture from the Bible.

After googling "the gospel" it turns out it's the teachings of Christ, and even more specifically just 4 books in the Bible - Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.

Scrolls up - I see Luke, John, and Matthew up there, so still safe, even if unknowingly.

AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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AGC said:

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Phatbob said:

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If you remember, Jesus included the most provocative situations for his parables. The Samaritans were considered religious outcasts, and his point in the parable was that we need to consider the more uncomfortable facts about ourselves. He could have made it more digestible for the people who were listening, but he didn't. Is it our jobs to serve those who are our neighbors? He gave us that answer. He even told us who our neighbors are, and it doesn't jive with what we really want them to be.

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You're confirming what we're all saying: this ad is a liberal Christian condemnation of conservative Christians. It isn't calling anyone to Christ (or the church), it isn't calling for unity, and it isn't engaging with issues at a substantive level to further the church. It's just here to gloat like the Pharisee rather than pray like the publican (which, ironically, you seem to miss - the ad is a plank in the eye of those who made it).

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I don't see any of that, but I guess you are going to see what you are looking for. I can tell you that if we are bristling at the idea of Jesus serving those whom we don't like politically, that is an us problem, and one that he specifically called out.

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You can read and understand biblical parables but when an advert pops up you just nod your head and obey without thinking? Right…

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I am absolutely in favor of skepticism, especially when it comes to marketing, but the criticism had better be for the right reasons, and so far it has all I've seen is versions of people acting like Pharisees, deciding who we have and have not been called to serve. Conveniently, all the ones deserving just happen to agree with us.

There are plenty of things that I am sure are legitimate points of contention, but that should not be one of them.

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Let's apply your skepticism then. Who do you think the target audience of these ads is? You think the left-coded groups will see these and walk into church seeking to repent and turn from their sins? Who is Jesus 'getting' in these ads?

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Is this a real question? It is aimed to challenge some preconceived notions of Jesus. It's not meant to be steps 1 to 100 of salvation. It's aimed at turning a closed ear of someone who would immediately say no because of politics or something else unrelated into a possible open ear to hear something new to them

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So a woman who is pro-choice watches this and says…what?

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Hopefully she says "Wow, I understand now that by taking a pro-choice position, I am condoning the gravest of sin against innocent human beings. I am so glad Jesus loves me enough to forgive me. Henceforth, although I will still love people who decide to have abortions, I will admonish them to stop their grave sin, and I will advocate for the innocent to stop being senselessly murdered."

DarkBrandon01 said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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The left loves to subvert the portion of Christian belief that happens to somewhat align with leftist dogma. They want Christians to discard the rest of the religion in favor of adopting more leftist ideology. It is how they subvert any institution and direct its resources to their own religious political system.

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"He Gets Us" has faced criticism over the extensive spending by the campaign, its donors' support of anti-abortion and anti-LGBT groups, and disputes over claims that the campaign is apolitical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Gets_Us

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The left doesn't like these ads either.

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BS...a lot of them do. And a lot of progressive Christians eat it up like crazy. And it influences a lot of the younger more impressionable ones.

Faustus said:

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Tramp96 said:

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Faustus said:

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tk111 said:

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Phatbob said:

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It's a hard thing to get just right. The world has told all of the people these commercials are aimed at that Christianity and Christians are their enemy. Politics has told Christians that their opposites on the left are the enemy, and so we tend to reinforce that lie. We as Christians are as polarized as anyone is in this culture.

God has told us the opposite. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood. God does not see left vs right, man vs woman, black vs white. We are all sinners in need of a savior. We all have the same starting point, whether we are "right" (politically or socially) or not. So no, the message is not heretical. It is a starting point, and as long as it is just the starting point to begin the relationship with the One who matters, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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Everything you said is based on assumptions, and the assumptions are wrong. There is no "starting point" apart from the Gospel. The ad plays, you go their website, and then there is a promotion for a "study" and bunch of links to social justice talking points. No Gospel to be found anywhere. Its trash.

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I've never visited the site before, but it looks like they have gospel linked to most of the pieces I clicked on.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/what-is-foot-washing-and-what-does-it-symbolize

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Scripture References: John 13:1-17, Matthew 23:11-12, Luke 7:37-50

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/loving-your-neighbor-is-nearly-impossible-how-can-we-do-it

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Scripture References: Luke 10:25-37, John 13:1-17

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/jesus-was-exclusively-inclusive

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Scripture References: Romans 12:15-18, Galatians 3:28, John 4:1-29, Luke 8:1-3

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etc.

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What would you say the Gospel is?

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I assumed "gospel" had multiple meanings, one of which was scripture from the Bible.

After googling "the gospel" it turns out it's the teachings of Christ, and even more specifically just 4 books in the Bible - Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.

Scrolls up - I see Luke, John, and Matthew up there, so still safe, even if unknowingly.

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The Gospel is the good news message that Jesus has died for our sins and defeated death through his death and resurrection. Part of this message is for us to know we are sinners, we have no chance at redemption through our own merit or works, but that we have peace knowing that Jesus paid for our sins in full since there was no way for us to do it on our own.

The four books of the Bible known as the Gospels tell the story of Jesus ministry on Earth spreading the good news of the Gospel. You have the synoptic Gospels which are Matthew, Mark, and Luke. They each provide basically similar recounts of Jesus ministry, but written for different audiences (Matthew was written with Jews as his primary audience, Luke was written with Gentiles in mind). There is a Church tradition that Mark's Gospel was Peter's account.

The Gospel of John came much later after the first three, and his is much more focused on the theology of it all. In some ways you can say he tied up any theological loose ends that maybe didn't get completely covered by the Synoptic Gospels.

All that to say...just because the website cites verses from the books of the Bible known as the Gospels, it doesn't mean it is actually preaching The Gospel to anyone. The links you provided do not actually say anything about the Good News that we are all sinners redeemed only by the blood of Christ.

I appreciate the homily, if I used the term correctly.

I learned something new today.

Faustus said:

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Tramp96 said:

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Faustus said:

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tk111 said:

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Phatbob said:

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It's a hard thing to get just right. The world has told all of the people these commercials are aimed at that Christianity and Christians are their enemy. Politics has told Christians that their opposites on the left are the enemy, and so we tend to reinforce that lie. We as Christians are as polarized as anyone is in this culture.

God has told us the opposite. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood. God does not see left vs right, man vs woman, black vs white. We are all sinners in need of a savior. We all have the same starting point, whether we are "right" (politically or socially) or not. So no, the message is not heretical. It is a starting point, and as long as it is just the starting point to begin the relationship with the One who matters, then it is doing what it is supposed to do.

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Everything you said is based on assumptions, and the assumptions are wrong. There is no "starting point" apart from the Gospel. The ad plays, you go their website, and then there is a promotion for a "study" and bunch of links to social justice talking points. No Gospel to be found anywhere. Its trash.

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I've never visited the site before, but it looks like they have gospel linked to most of the pieces I clicked on.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/what-is-foot-washing-and-what-does-it-symbolize

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Scripture References: John 13:1-17, Matthew 23:11-12, Luke 7:37-50

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/loving-your-neighbor-is-nearly-impossible-how-can-we-do-it

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Scripture References: Luke 10:25-37, John 13:1-17

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https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/jesus-was-exclusively-inclusive

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Scripture References: Romans 12:15-18, Galatians 3:28, John 4:1-29, Luke 8:1-3

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etc.

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What would you say the Gospel is?

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I assumed "gospel" had multiple meanings, one of which was scripture from the Bible.

After googling "the gospel" it turns out it's the teachings of Christ, and even more specifically just 4 books in the Bible - Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John.

Scrolls up - I see Luke, John, and Matthew up there, so still safe, even if unknowingly.

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Yikes this is fatally incorrect. I hope you read Tramp's post.

Edit: looks like you did read it. Can't tell if you're being facetious. I hope you take it to heart and understand that what he said is foundationally where you should begin to understand everything else in the Bible.

I took the shades off, and wiped the smirk off the emoji's face.

I generally appreciate learning new things, especially here where I clearly missed the mark on what 'the gospel" meant.

Cheers.

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I took the shades off, and wiped the smirk off the emoji's face.

I generally appreciate learning new things, especially here where I clearly missed the mark on what 'the gospel" meant.

Cheers.

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in game advertisement during A&M UH baseball game

Edey declaring is probably a less offensive lead-in for most too.