Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a trans with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is offered as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

ETA:
Their own words, not mine. Reinforces my reflection per above.

https://hegetsus.com/en/articles/he-gets-us-has-an-agenda

When I see those ads I think...

Depart from me, I never knew you.

Supported by Relevant and Christianity Today, two of the more left leaning rags out there

maybe the current Pope?

Hobby Lobby founder David Green is a large contributor.

The left loves to subvert the portion of Christian belief that happens to somewhat align with leftist dogma. They want Christians to discard the rest of the religion in favor of adopting more leftist ideology. It is how they subvert any institution and direct its resources to their own religious political system.

Dill-Ag13 said:

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Supported by Relevant and Christianity Today, two of the more left leaning rags out there

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The left and right have historically needed each other as tempering voices. The modern left is no longer listening to the right, and the result is that they have elevated "compassion" as the transcendental virtue with truth and justice relegated to footnotes.

The irony is that without the bite of sin, there is no love in Jesus' (now meaningless) sacrifice.

Many denominations and mega churches have found temporary wealth in preaching exclusively feel good theology, and the funders of these adds are presumably trying to appeal to a broken culture with an outstretched hand… but they undermine the gospel and their entire premise when they divorce themselves from the behavioral standard.

They are confusing ads, almost designed to guilt Christians who haven't done anything wrong by accusing us of being anti-LGBTQRS+.

The trans in the ad looks like the son of Twisted Sister.

"Religious" people who espouse Jesus as a feel good hippie annoy this Catholic to no end. Its wrong and a near heretical take on his ministry.

This is a central plan to all of this. It's too well coordinated, implemented and funded.

What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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"Religious" people who espouse Jesus as a feel good hippie annoy this Catholic to no end. Its wrong and a near heretical take on his ministry.

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But


But He wore sandals and had long hair.

2wealfth Man said:

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Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a tran with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

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They are heretical. It's nothing but pure subversion of Christianity to push lgbtq, open borders, and more. They actively misrepresent and take bible verses out of context to do this.

They've got 100+ million to push this.

Numerous liberal and "reformed" churches/organizations are behind it.

Their position is that Christians are the problem with Christianity.

The ads are designed to sound nice and harmless, but propaganda is often rather subtle.

There is always a balance.

Sometimes we only focus on the Justice and forget about Grace.

As long as there is not a denial of either, it's not wrong. Some people only hear one or the other though.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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"Religious" people who espouse Jesus as a feel good hippie annoy this Catholic to no end. Its wrong and a near heretical take on his ministry.

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Not a feel good hippie, but definitely an anti establishment socialist. Jesus would want nothing to do with our government and politics left or right.

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What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

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As Mouth said: subversion. There is no "go and sin no more" message, just a "he loves you as you are" message. It's selling cheap grace; which disservices the non-believer. And the framing intends to shame fiery Christians for their ardency.

if we elected Jesus as president, maybe then we can be communist because he'd feed, clothe, and shelter everyone with miracles. Until then, Catholics, continue giving generously to the charities of your choosing, but vote the destructive amoral socialist democrats out.

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What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

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We are supposed to get Him. Not He gets us. That is again the arrogance of man that is our greatest failing and sin.

Jesus loves the sinner. But never will He condone the sin.

Nanomachines son said:

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2wealfth Man said:

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Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a tran with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

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They are heretical. It's nothing but pure subversion of Christianity to push lgbtq, open borders, and more. They actively misrepresent and take bible verses out of context to do this.

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Hatred under the name of Christianity is also heretical. That said we as a nation have laws that the executive branch is failing to enforce. But hatred is never part of the game. You cant cherry pick the word dude.

Love the Lord your God with all you heart, mind and soul.
Love you neighbor as you love yourself.

-- s Jesus Christ

BCG Disciple said:

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What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

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christians who harbor hatred in their hearts for the marginalized experiencing cognitive dissonance over the fact that hatred is not very christlike

ttu_85 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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2wealfth Man said:

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Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a tran with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

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They are heretical. It's nothing but pure subversion of Christianity to push lgbtq, open borders, and more. They actively misrepresent and take bible verses out of context to do this.

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Hatred under the name of Christianity is also heretical. That said we as a nation have laws that the executive branch is failing to enforce. But hatred is never part of the game. You cant cherry pick the word dude.

Love the Lord your God with all you heart, mind and soul.
Love you neighbor as you love yourself.

-- s Jesus Christ

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Are you saying you actively support a group that deliberately takes the Bible out of context to push leftist beliefs? Do you know what the Bible says about false prophets and those who intentionally lead people astray?

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The left loves to subvert the portion of Christian belief that happens to somewhat align with leftist dogma. They want Christians to discard the rest of the religion in favor of adopting more leftist ideology. It is how they subvert any I institution snd ints resources to their own religious political system.

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leftist Jews have been doing this for decades in the USA focusing on Judaism's "social justice" teachings.

and of course leaving out 3,500 years of Jewish history and "an eye for an eye" in the Torah.

I guess I don't agree. I'm not saying you can't come to that conclusion, but I think you have to project your own bias to do so. Although I will admit that I haven't seen all of these ads. I'm not sure how the love your enemies ad makes you jump to this conclusion.

Christians (pick your denomination) are pretty judgmental and opinionated about their specific stance on Christianity. At the end of the day, grace is as easy to come by as it gets and Christianity is unique in that regard. No, there is nothing that encourages to continue sinning, but I think there is an understood reality that only a single person was free of sin.

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Nanomachines son said:

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2wealfth Man said:

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Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a tran with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

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They are heretical. It's nothing but pure subversion of Christianity to push lgbtq, open borders, and more. They actively misrepresent and take bible verses out of context to do this.

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Hatred under the name of Christianity is also heretical. That said we as a nation have laws that the executive branch is failing to enforce. But hatred is never part of the game. You cant cherry pick the word dude.

Love the Lord your God with all you heart, mind and soul.
Love you neighbor as you love yourself.

-- s Jesus Christ

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Rapier108 said:

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They've got 100+ million to push this.

Numerous liberal and "reformed" churches/organizations are behind it.

Their position is that Christians are the problem with Christianity.

The ads are designed to sound nice and harmless, but propaganda is often rather subtle.

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This is indeed the subtle message. It's the constant drum beat of anti-white, anti-conservative propaganda to shape public opinion in a way that marginalizes white conservatives. It conditions the mind so well that even when I see successful white people enjoying themselves I almost feel uncomfortable, as if they don't deserve it and it should make me think negatively about them.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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"Religious" people who espouse Jesus as a feel good hippie annoy this Catholic to no end. Its wrong and a near heretical take on his ministry.

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Yep...These are not the words of a hippie...

Get Off My Lawn said:

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BCG Disciple said:

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What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

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As Mouth said: subversion. There is no "go and sin no more" message, just a "he loves you as you are" message. It's selling cheap grace; which disservices the non-believer. And the framing intends to shame fiery Christians for their ardency.

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I have a feeling these are mostly designed to influence/condition certain Christians, particularly female ones who are more susceptible to such emotionally driven messages. And the youth.

They're not tryng to grow the kingdom...they're trying to tear the fabric.

Anyone else remember "I Found It!" bumper stickers from the 1970s?

Two things Jesus said when talking to people about their sin always convicts me:

1) Do you want to be healed?
2) Go and sin no more

Yes he gets us... but more so he wants us to die to ourselves, turn from our sin, and follow him.

Dill-Ag13 said:

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Supported by Relevant and Christianity Today, two of the more left leaning rags out there

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Christianity Astray

Every time one of these ads comes up, I can't help but think of these words...

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Old McDonald said:

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BCG Disciple said:

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What exactly is the problem with the ads? Not going to lie, I didn't particularly like it at first but getting a little perspective it's hard for me to take issue with the message conveyed.

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christians who harbor hatred in their hearts for the marginalized experiencing cognitive dissonance over the fact that hatred is not very christlike

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Your troll game has really slipped.

Nanomachines son said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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2wealfth Man said:

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Someone is spending a ton of money on these. National TV, signage at major sporting events, etc. The ads are really opaque to me. There was one yesterday during a hockey game , I believe which showed a tran with a sad face, what I took to be a druggie, minority working a food service job, etc.

This is as a Christian: No doubt he "gets us" and wants to reach all members of the human race with his message but there is a big big AND here which is not being said (notably, we/humanity have to take up the cross and follow him). I just feel like they are promoting this "destructive empathy" which we see all too much of these days without saying the hard part out loud in their ads.

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They are heretical. It's nothing but pure subversion of Christianity to push lgbtq, open borders, and more. They actively misrepresent and take bible verses out of context to do this.

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Hatred under the name of Christianity is also heretical. That said we as a nation have laws that the executive branch is failing to enforce. But hatred is never part of the game. You cant cherry pick the word dude.

Love the Lord your God with all you heart, mind and soul.
Love you neighbor as you love yourself.

-- s Jesus Christ

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Are you saying you actively support a group that deliberately takes the Bible out of context to push leftist beliefs? Do you know what the Bible says about false prophets and those who intentionally lead people astray?

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Do you pay attention to posting history at all? I am well aware of what the Bible says about false prophets and what happens to people that lead others astray. I also know those prophets were Jewish as was Jesus himself as well as his Apostles.

Lots of false prophets out there and you will know them by their fruit. Hatred of a people is a poisonous fruit. Hatred of sin is not.

sleepybeagle said:

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Two things Jesus said when talking to people about their sin always convicts me:

1) Do you want to be healed?
2) Go and sin no more

Yes he gets us... but more so he wants us to die to ourselves, turn from our sin, and follow him.

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This is right.

If these ads had a good piece at the end just saying "remember to sin no more" I would be ecstatic about these messages.