Did Merchan ever rule on the motion to dismiss?

Another good listen from the Professor that was posted a few days ago.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Did Merchan ever rule on the motion to dismiss?

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I'm not sure if he formally ruled on their motion to dismiss after the State rested, but that would have become moot after he sent the jury to deliberate, and further moot when he denied the defense's Motion for a Judgment of Acquittal from the bench on May 30.

TXAggie2011 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Did Merchan ever rule on the motion to dismiss?

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I'm not sure if he formally ruled on their motion to dismiss after the State rested, but that would have become moot after he sent the jury to deliberate, and further moot when he denied the defense's Motion for a Judgment of Acquittal from the bench on May 30.

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INCORRECT as to the Bold.

The Statute specifically contemplates the Judge reserving decision o until after the verdict has been rendered and accepted by the court.

I do agree on the denial of the motion for judgment of acquittal effectively making it moot, Merchan is still going to "formally" deny that motion in the docket.

Team Trump will likely file a formal motion under 290.10 (or some other rule) by the 6/13/24 deadline.

Fair enough. You're correct. The Court can wait until after a guilty verdict because ruling before the guilty verdict prevents the state from appealing the Court's ruling.

Nevertheless, its essentially moot.

WTF does Trump need a probation officer? I mean the dude is watched 24/7 by the entire planet. Dumb.

GeorgiAg said:

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WTF does Trump need a probation officer? I mean the dude is watched 24/7 by the entire planet. Dumb.

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I think its normal pretty much everywhere to have a presentencing interview for felonies.

And of course he'd have a probation officer if he's put on probation

TXAggie2011 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Did Merchan ever rule on the motion to dismiss?

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I'm not sure if he formally ruled on their motion to dismiss after the State rested, but that would have become moot after he sent the jury to deliberate

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Right, so he lied when he said he would rule on it. He never considered it. He was never going to consider it.

TXAggie2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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WTF does Trump need a probation officer? I mean the dude is watched 24/7 by the entire planet. Dumb.

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I think its normal pretty much everywhere to have a presentencing interview for felonies.

And of course he'd have a probation officer if he's put on probation

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I can't wait to watch heads explode when Trump tells Netanyahu he'll have place him on a brief hold since his PO showed up unannounced.

txags92 said:

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Mr Mojo Risin said:

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TXAggie2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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WTF does Trump need a probation officer? I mean the dude is watched 24/7 by the entire planet. Dumb.

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I think its normal pretty much everywhere to have a presentencing interview for felonies.

And of course he'd have a probation officer if he's put on probation

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I can't wait to watch heads explode when Trump tells Netanyahu he'll have place him on a brief hold since his PO showed up unannounced.

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Yeah, imprisoning political rivals like they do in Russia is hilarious!

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I guess the voice in my head didn't translate to the keyboard well. I have stated this trial is a purely political farce that should never have happened. I meant liberal heads popping when future President Trump is still on parole. It was a jab at all these "objective" guys who think this trial was by the book.

NJ getting into the lawfaring action. Since Trump was convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude", it's unlawful for his businesses to have liquor licenses now.

Lawfare Bingeing: New Jersey Announces an Investigation into Trump Liquor Licenses | Jonathan Turley

Many of us have expressed alarm at the politicization of the criminal justice system in New York by figures such as Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney… pic.twitter.com/1mOpAINEP9

— Owen Gregorian (@OwenGregorian) June 11, 2024

Can we start shooting yet?

They'll never stop until the right does it back to them. It's a one-sided fight. The right has to join in.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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They'll never stop until the right does it back to them. It's a one-sided fight. The right has to join in.

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...and they are already squealing like pigs knowing Trump is likely to be re-elected.

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The three-letter agency officials turned CNN puppet told Kaitlin Collins that intelligence community members are spanking because they are worried Trump will prosecute them for their participation in several hoaxes, such as the "Russian collusion" lie, and falsely labeling Hunter Biden's laptop from Hell as "Russian disinformation" before the 2020 election.

"It's terrifying. It's frightening," McCabe said.

"The former assistant director pointed to one of Trump's rally quotes in which he claimed he will be 'retribution' for disenfranchised American voters, predicting that it will culminate in "really dismantling and greatly incapacitating the Department of Justice and the FBI," he added.

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Yes please.

LINK to article

oh no said:

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NJ getting into the lawfaring action. Since Trump was convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude", it's unlawful for his businesses to have liquor licenses now.

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Dumb question...

But those licenses have been issued to a corporation for facilities, and not to an individual. Unless they are in his name, which I'd highly doubt, isn't this a silly exercise?

AgGrad99 said:

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oh no said:

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NJ getting into the lawfaring action. Since Trump was convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude", it's unlawful for his businesses to have liquor licenses now.

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Dumb question...

But those licenses have been issued to a corporation for facilities, and not to an individual. Unless they are in his name, which I'd highly doubt, isn't this a silly exercise?

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Yes, but if they can stretch the law, they will. These are evil, immoral people.

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oh no said:

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NJ getting into the lawfaring action. Since Trump was convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude", it's unlawful for his businesses to have liquor licenses now.

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Dumb question...

But those licenses have been issued to a corporation for facilities, and not to an individual. Unless they are in his name, which I'd highly doubt, isn't this a silly exercise?

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I don't know New Jersey, but in Texas, a liquor license is given to a "person." For a corporation, this flows through to the officers and majority owners. In other words, those individuals are ultimately responsible for the license and they're really the ones obtaining the license, albeit in the name of the company they run.

And Texas can deny or revoke a permit if any of those persons have certain issues, including felonies or issues of "moral turpitude."


I'm not saying New Jersey is right to call this a crime of "moral turpitude", I don't know their rules and their laws, but I bet their law is similar at least in the sense the permit attaches to individuals.

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And Texas can deny or revoke a permit if any of those persons have certain issues, including felonies or issues of "moral turpitude."


I'm not saying New Jersey is right to call this a crime of "moral turpitude", I don't know their rules and their laws, but I bet their law is similar at least in the sense the permit attaches to individuals.

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You also said you didn't necessarily agree, but that it was a legitimate prosecution in New York.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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TXAggie2011 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Did Merchan ever rule on the motion to dismiss?

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I'm not sure if he formally ruled on their motion to dismiss after the State rested, but that would have become moot after he sent the jury to deliberate

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Right, so he lied when he said he would rule on it. He never considered it. He was never going to consider it.

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No, he had a long back and forth about it with both parties and then reserved decision. As Gipper pointed out New York law specifically contemplates that and I suppose he'll formally rule at some point on that motion or a renewed, written motion.

It essentially became "moot" because the motion for acquittal made after the verdict was made on the exact same grounds and was denied from the bench.

My point is, if the defense wants to appeal the Michael Cohen credibility issue, they already have a denied motion for acquittal upon which to do so.

TXAggie2011 said:

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AgGrad99 said:

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oh no said:

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NJ getting into the lawfaring action. Since Trump was convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude", it's unlawful for his businesses to have liquor licenses now.

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Dumb question...

But those licenses have been issued to a corporation for facilities, and not to an individual. Unless they are in his name, which I'd highly doubt, isn't this a silly exercise?

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I don't know New Jersey, but in Texas, a liquor license is given to a "person." For a corporation, this flows through to the officers and majority owners. In other words, those individuals are ultimately responsible for the license and they're really the ones obtaining the license, albeit in the name of the company they run.

And Texas can deny or revoke a permit if any of those persons have certain issues, including felonies or issues of "moral turpitude."


I'm not saying New Jersey is right to call this a crime of "moral turpitude", I don't know their rules and their laws, but I bet their law is similar at least in the sense the permit attaches to individuals.

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From what I remember that is correct, my wife and her sister were named along with their father for his restaurants' liquor licenses.

Of course this is just disgusting over-reach again.

If anyone has a few extra hours to spare, NY's 400 slide closing is available here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24741655-djt-ny-summation-slides

Im Gipper said:

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If anyone has a few extra hours to spare, NY's 400 slide closing is available here:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24741655-djt-ny-summation-slides

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TBH, the most impressive part of the closing was that the DA lawyer seemed to have the massive slide deck entirely memorized.

TBH, unless you were in the room watching how could you possibly reach that conclusion?

Im Gipper said:

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TBH, unless you were in the room watching how could you possibly reach that conclusion?

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Well, people in the room said that. And I saw parts of the transcript where he seemed to consistently know exactly what the following slides said.

In honor of President Trump's Bday....

Take a trip down memory lane. Remember this? Never gets old. Another Happy Birthday President Trump post. Make libs cry again.

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— Sassafrass84 (@Sassafrass_84) June 14, 2024

Im Gipper said:

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TBH, unless you were in the room watching how could you possibly reach that conclusion?

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You had to ask?

txags92 said:

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TXAggie2011 said:

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Im Gipper said:

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TBH, unless you were in the room watching how could you possibly reach that conclusion?

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Well, people in the room said that. And I saw parts of the transcript where he seemed to consistently know exactly what the following slides said.

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Powerpoint has a presenter mode that lets you see the next slide before it displays for the audience.

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Yes, it does. He wasn't at the computer or operating the PowerPoint, as the transcript and reports said he was directing someone else who was doing all of that for him

Fair and appropriate. Just remember that when reading many of those posts.

SwigAg11 said:

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Has anyone seen anything about the Trump team planning to seek relief in the federal courts?

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This is likely another of many examples of Trump's real lawyers not doing what is suggested by the "influencers" and "celebrity lawyers" on X !

What ever happened with the juror "cousin"? That went from automatic mistrial to nothing burger pretty quickly.

Im Gipper said:

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What ever happened with the juror "cousin"? That went from automatic mistrial to nothing burger pretty quickly.

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I think that they determined that he was a troll with no connection to anyone.