Malibu said:He's probably on the phone with her as I type.aggiehawg said:Thy can't. But Biden can call the NY Governor and beg her to do so.richardag said:IANAL but I don't believe President is allowed to pardon on state crimesSims said:
What if Biden pardoned Trump to win back that "adult in the room" mantle?
Is it though? We don't know, now do we? Have YOU seen the verdict form?Im Gipper said:
Oh, I completely agree this was all a bunch of nonsense.! A bunch of fabricated crimes to get Trump.
But the poster said he was not convicted of felonies, that's not accurate
Yes - I too can't wait for him to get felony convictions for Biden, Hunter, and a host of other Democrats during his second term!Pylon Cam said:
What a great day for our country, as traitor Trump is now a convicted felon. Hopefully these are the first of many felony convictions to come for him.
Don't forget the city of San Fran flying such flags for 60 years...4stringAg said:And yet you have Dems like Jamie Raskin in Congress with the temerity to demand recusal of Alito from J6 cases because of a flag flying upside down.will25u said:BREAKING: FEC vendor records reveal Judge Merchan's daughter raked in $9.7 mil from Biden+Kamala during their 2020 campaigns for prez, raising fresh conflict issues. They paid Loren Merchan's Dem consulting firm Authentic Campaigns to sway swing-state undecideds thru social media
— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) May 30, 2024
Dems are nothing if not consistently hypocritical
He's going to win. Whether the Marxists let him be president is a completely different story though.Timmay! said:
More convinced than ever he is going to win in November.
Of course. But it will still have an affect on what Trump can do until then.Houston Lee said:
This "conviction" will most certainly be overturned on appeal.
So, the glee felt by many here will be short lived.
This crap will continue unabated from the leftists DA's and AG's and the US AG.Aggie95 said:
I wanted to move on from Trump in the primary as well, but let's not be naive to think they wouldn't attached this to the GOP in general. They will also go after DeSantis and any GOP candidate moving forward.
No, still TyrannyIrish 2.0 said:
aggiehawg said:Is it though? We don't know, now do we? Have YOU seen the verdict form?Im Gipper said:
Oh, I completely agree this was all a bunch of nonsense.! A bunch of fabricated crimes to get Trump.
But the poster said he was not convicted of felonies, that's not accurate
I have not. Please link if you have it.
I'm not TIED to anything. I will pull that lever for Trump with as much gusto as I have ever voted for anyone in my entire life.Quote:
2. As predicted, now Republicans are tied to defending a politician convicted of fraud. I will do it but I hate it.
Some polls I saw a few weeks ago indicated more people less likely to vote for Trump if convicted, than would more likely vote for Trump. With of course a large number on both sides saying it wouldn't affect their vote one way or the other. But was a net negative for Trump. But we'll have to see how things play out over the next several months what the actual net effect is. Obviously the Dem bean counters having been counting on it being a net negative or they wouldn't have gone with this play call.BrazosDog02 said:
**** all this noise. Trump's getting my vote. Granted, there aren't any other options. But mostly this just pisses me off.
I feel like they're probably will be a lot of rage voting. I am relatively confident this whole circus will do far more good than harm.
Muy said:
The RINOs in the party are feverishly working on pushing for replacing Trump with a weak candidate who will get chewed up and spit out by the marxists.
Is that illegal?Gabster43213 said:
Lesson to Learn: Don't engage with porn stars and don't hang around losers like Cohen.
Sorry to dash Trump-haters "orange jumpsuit" fantasies, but Trump won't be taken into custody; or go to Rykers, even if he's slapped with a prison term. He'll be free on BAIL PENDING APPEAL. Sentencing won't be enforced until all NY appeals are exhausted -- well past the election
— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) May 30, 2024
goTexAgs91 said:Oh, I think I must have read someone else's post. I totally agree. Time to leave the Marxist country.4 said:TexAgs91 said:What gives you hope? Even if they elect him, nothing will touch the deep state.4 said:
This was 100pct predetermined AND it will 100 pct help Trump win.
HOWEVER... it is long past time to end this union.
I'm not sure I understand your question.
My point is that this will help Trump win this election... short of massive cheating, which will of course happen... AND
That it's time for the conservative states to secede.
Give the Godless left their own country and watch them blow up. We need to get away from them at all costs. We are in a union with people that want to destroy the union.
GMaster0 said:
Folks, in the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.
No Just dumbTexAgs91 said:Is that illegal?Gabster43213 said:
Lesson to Learn: Don't engage with porn stars and don't hang around losers like Cohen.
As we saw with Bill Clinton and his $850K hush money check to Paul Jones. Truly a banana republic. Like how his wife was fined by the FEC for actual collusion with Russia for the Steele Dossier, and not properly reporting it. However, Trump was investigated for years and exonerated. I hope every red state AG starts digging into every dem in their state and start filing charges. Flood the system. Fight lawfare with lawfare. Expose everyone of them.Muy said:
Neither of which are crimes, but thanks for showing who you are.
Could be.Muy said:
The RINOs in the party are feverishly working on pushing for replacing Trump with a weak candidate who will get chewed up and spit out by the marxists.
ttu_85 said:Could be.Muy said:
The RINOs in the party are feverishly working on pushing for replacing Trump with a weak candidate who will get chewed up and spit out by the marxists.
DeSantis should suit up. Nothing weak about that guy.
Pylon Commie said:
What a great day for our country, as traitor Trump is now a convicted felon. Hopefully these are the first of many felony convictions to come for him.
True this ship isnt lost. Biden is very unpopular and you are right vulnerable. The convention is in August. Any decent candidate should be able to wipe the floor with that moron veggy.Pumpkinhead said:
GOP voters knew this was part of the Dems campaign strategy. This trial was scheduled well before before the primaries.
Biden is extremely vulnerable and had the GOP simply gone with a fresher (and younger) face with less baggage than the enormous Trump baggage...
But the GOP voters decided to (re)run a 77+ year old candidate with an 0-1 election record versus Biden, who has more political baggage and drama swirling around him than anyone else alive, with stuff like Jan. 6th and now 'convicted felon' leading campaign ads in swing states...the Dems for all their flaws, it is hard not to get the impression that they have developed an effective playbook since being surprised in the 2016 campaign cycle regarding how to get the best of Donald Trump.
This will presumably be a very close contested election regardless, and in 2028 the United States media and voter bases on both sides will all have to eventually move away from their Trump addiction/obsession and move on to something else, but for now it is what it is.
Well, yeah, politics is always vicious but they wouldn't have had time to run a playbook like this against someone like DeSantis before the election. Trump was indicted on these charges back in March, 2023. Today was the result of a left wing political strategy that has been on deck for 2+ years.Aggie95 said:
I wanted to move on from Trump in the primary as well, but let's not be naive to think they wouldn't attached this to the GOP in general. They will also go after DeSantis and any GOP candidate moving forward.
PeePaw is going to label all the MAGA extremists as terrorists when he reads the teleprompter.PCC_80 said:
Brandon is getting warmed up to call Trump a Criminal and Convicted Felon on TV tonight. Also, any and all Republicans will also be called Criminals and a Threat to Democracy.
Disgusting and no one will be punished for this sham of a trial.
Sadly almost half the people in this country fully support political prosecution of their opposition.
Except the misdemeanor had passed the statute of limitationsTex117 said:Falsifying Business RecordsAgthatbuilds said:
One last time, what crime was committed that the jury had to agree happened to make the charges stick?
The legal language establishing the degrees of Falsifying Business Records have specifically defined elements and terms that not merely may but will have an impact on your case. Two of these words, "enterprise" and "business record," for example, have specific meanings that you must discuss with your counsel. Simply, if you delete, alter or make a false entry in the business records of an enterprise and you do so with the intent to defraud, you have run afoul of the misdemeanor crime. If when you do so, you also have the intent to further or conceal another criminal offense, then you have committed the felony crime.
- Falsifying Business Records in the Second Degree - NY Penal Law 175.05
- Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree - NY Penal Law 175.10
That said...what happened (and a somewhat novel concept) is that they said because it dealt with campaign funds...it made it a felony.
They have a strong LEGAL appeal for that.
I think a fun bet (whether its good or not, don't know), is that an appeals court will knock it down to a misdomeaner like the statute says...take the felony off the table...Trump pays a fine...the end.
On December 21, 2022, the Republican National Committee announced that the convention's dates will be July 15-18, 2024. That's 4 days after the sentencing hearing.ttu_85 said:
True this ship isnt lost. Biden is very unpopular and you are right vulnerable. The convention is in August. Any decent candidate should be able to wipe the floor with that moron veggy.
We can still win this and get the rats out of Washington.
