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"Isn't it true that you are hoping that if Donald Trump is convicted, you'll never have to pay him?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels, referring to the legal fees Daniels owes Trump.

"I hope I don't have to pay him no matter what happens," Daniels says.
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Prosecutor Susan Necheles is questioning Stormy Daniels about her finances related to Trump.
"You've been making money by claiming to have had sex with President Trump for more than a decade," Necheles asks.
"I've been making money by telling my story about what happened to me," Daniels says.
Trump is leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed.
"That story has made you a lot of money, right?" Necheles asks.
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"It's also cost me a lot of money," Daniels says.

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Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels about whether she spoke to attorney Gloria Allred in 2011 about whether she could sue Donald Trump for money.
After a pause, Daniels testified, "I don't remember what was talked about in that conversation."
"I also told her I had sex with Donald Trump."

About what happened to me? Like she wasn't a willing participant in the whole thing? It's a tale as old as time, pretty young woman exchanges value with older man for some perceived reward. She got whatever fame she could from him, then ended it when she didn't get on The Apprentice.
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WHOOP!'91 said:

aggiehawg said:

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"Isn't it true that you are hoping that if Donald Trump is convicted, you'll never have to pay him?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels, referring to the legal fees Daniels owes Trump.

"I hope I don't have to pay him no matter what happens," Daniels says.
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Prosecutor Susan Necheles is questioning Stormy Daniels about her finances related to Trump.
"You've been making money by claiming to have had sex with President Trump for more than a decade," Necheles asks.
"I've been making money by telling my story about what happened to me," Daniels says.
Trump is leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed.
"That story has made you a lot of money, right?" Necheles asks.
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"It's also cost me a lot of money," Daniels says.

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Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels about whether she spoke to attorney Gloria Allred in 2011 about whether she could sue Donald Trump for money.
After a pause, Daniels testified, "I don't remember what was talked about in that conversation."
"I also told her I had sex with Donald Trump."

About what happened to me? Like she wasn't a willing participant in the whole thing? It's a tale as old as time, pretty young woman exchanges value with older man for some perceived reward. She got whatever fame she could from him, then ended it when she didn't get on The Apprentice.
Yep, part of the playbook. If sleeping around hadn't moved Kamala up the political power chain 100% chance she would have switched from being a willing participant to she was raped as well.
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She stopped taking his calls after that, except one time when he called to tell her he didn't know Jenna Jameson would be on "The Apprentice."

She said he thought she'd be mad. "I didn't care," she said on the stand.

That was the last time she said she spoke to Trump.
So the truth comes out.

Storm dog mad because Trump put Jenna Jameson on the Apprentice.

Sorry stormy. You no Jenna and you know that.
Jenna is no Jenna anymore. Saw her a few years back in person and was very disappointed
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is confronting Stormy Daniels with a document.
"You told Gloria Allred that you did not have sex with President Trump?," Necheles asks.
"No I did not say that, I said that I did," Daniels says.
They are now showing Daniels the document, which is a page from her book "Full Disclosure."
Trump is leaning forward to read it on his monitor, too.
"Yes during that phone conversation. When I met her in person later I told her everything," Daniels says.
Necheles suggests Daniels is making this up as she sits here on the stand.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles suggests Stormy Daniels had to talk about her sexual encounter with President Trump to make money.
"It taught you if you want to make money about President Trump, you better talk about sex," Necheles asks.
"No, although that does seem to be the case. Sadly," Daniels says.
"You learned from that, did you not, that a story about President Trump that doesn't include sex will make you no money, right?"
"It taught me that I should tell the truth and not trust people" I did not think I should trust, Daniels says.
ETA: There is an irony here for a trust issue with Stormy. She was a stripper at 17 and a porn actress not long after that. Trusting the wrong people is a recurring issue for her.
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Gyles Marrett said:

I'm a little surprised they're spending this much time on her financial situation. I imagine it could be for a variety of reasons but I wasn't expecting this.
There are showing she has reason to lie. It seems like they've done a good job of showing that she doesn't care about the rule of law to get Trump. She said she doesn't care about going to jail, she won't pay him. She seems to think she doesn't have to pay him if he goes to jail here. It's not a far leap to say she'd be willing to lie about this whole thing, even under oath.
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captkirk said:

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She stopped taking his calls after that, except one time when he called to tell her he didn't know Jenna Jameson would be on "The Apprentice."

She said he thought she'd be mad. "I didn't care," she said on the stand.

That was the last time she said she spoke to Trump.
So the truth comes out.

Storm dog mad because Trump put Jenna Jameson on the Apprentice.

Sorry stormy. You no Jenna and you know that.
Jenna is no Jenna anymore. Saw her a few years back in person and was very disappointed
yep...
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I'm trying to remember correctly, but I thought Daniels had stated, on multiple occasions, that she and Trump didn't have sex?
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now asking Stormy Daniels about her statements about being threatened in 2011.
Necheles asks it it's true that she didn't tell anyone about the supposed threat. Daniels says. that she told her close friends.
"You didn't tell your husband, father of child?" Necheles asks.
"Correct," Daniels said.
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Stormy Daniels is being asked about the time she was threatened by a man in Las Vegas.
She confirms she didn't tell anybody about the story until 2018 when she agreed it was "probably" in an interview with Anderson Cooper.
"I kept all of it secret from my husband," Daniels says.
"Your daughter's life was in jeopardy and you did not tell her father," Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks.
"Right," Daniels replies.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is drilling down on what Stormy Daniels did afterward being threatened in 2011.
Necheles is challenging Daniels with her own words in her book "Full Disclosure," in which she wrote that she did the exercise class after the man allegedly threatened her in the parking lot.
Daniels says it was "incorrect" that she had suggested she went to her exercise class. She says she went into the bathroom with her daughter and lied claiming her baby had a "blowout."
On the stand she said, "There's no way I could've possibly done the class as scared as I was."
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I am wondering at what point does the prosecution switch their strategy to showing that Daniels and Cohen were attempting to extort Trump, and Trump falsified the payments by marking them as a Legal Expense instead of Extortion Payment.
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SwigAg11 said:

I'm trying to remember correctly, but I thought Daniels had stated, on multiple occasions, that she and Trump didn't have sex?
She has.
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Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels if she believed Michael Cohen sent "that man in the garage," referring to a 2011 incident where Daniels says a man threatened her in a parking lot while she was on her way to a mommy-and-me class with her infant daughter.

Daniels says that's what she thought at the time, but she was wrong.
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aggiehawg said:

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now asking Stormy Daniels about her statements about being threatened in 2011.
Necheles asks it it's true that she didn't tell anyone about the supposed threat. Daniels says. that she told her close friends.
"You didn't tell your husband, father of child?" Necheles asks.
"Correct," Daniels said.
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Stormy Daniels is being asked about the time she was threatened by a man in Las Vegas.
She confirms she didn't tell anybody about the story until 2018 when she agreed it was "probably" in an interview with Anderson Cooper.
"I kept all of it secret from my husband," Daniels says.
"Your daughter's life was in jeopardy and you did not tell her father," Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks.
"Right," Daniels replies.


She's not going to tell the father, because Trump is the father!!!!
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Stormy Daniels is now testifying that she told the story about her sexual encounter with Trump on a radio show in 2007.
Trump attorney Susan Necheles clarifies that she wrote names down on a paper of famous people she'd slept with.
Daniels says she mentioned Lake Tahoe and a hotel room which was "obviously" about Trump.
Necheles asks Daniels whether she told Anderson Cooper, "I never told this story publicly before because I was threatened." She says that's correct.
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The court is taking a short afternoon break. Stormy Daniels is expected to resume her testimony soon.

Donald Trump pursed his lips and exhaled as he walked down the aisle.
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Given the tense atmosphere in the courtroom as Trump's attorney Susan Necheles presses Stormy Daniels in various ways in order to damage the adult film star's credibility, it's worth remembering that at the beginning of the day Trump was angry about not knowing who today's witness was.
Trump railed against the timing in which his team became aware of Tuesday's witness in his criminal trial in an early morning Truth Social post that has since been taken down.
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"I have just recently been told who the witness is today. This is unprecedented, no time for lawyers to prepare," the deleted post said.
Before the jury came in Tuesday morning, Necheles renewed the defense team's objection to Daniels testifying.
"We want to renew our objection this morning. We're informed the second witness will be Stormy Daniels. We want to renew our objection to her testifying, particularly about any details of any sexual acts," she said.
Prosecutors have made a point of not sharing witness plans with Trump, citing his various social media posts attacking potential witnesses.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels if she hated Michael Cohen when she made the allegation about the man threatening her in the car park.
And she added: Now you're "buddies."
Daniels says she wouldn't call them "buddies."
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Judge Juan Merchan is back and Stormy Daniels is on the stand.
Before the jury entered, Trump attorney Susan Necheles confirmed that her cross-examination would continue into Thursday. Wednesday is an off day for the trial.
Merchan said court will end at 4:30 p.m. today.
Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger said there will also be a redirect of Daniels.
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Susan Necheles is focusing again on the "threats" faced by Stormy Daniels.
"You had been told 'Don't talk anymore...'" so then you decided to sell your story, Necheles asks incredulously.
The Trump attorney briefly returned to the thedirty.com story from 2011, asking whether Daniels authorized Keith Davidson to have the story taken down.
"All I know is I wanted it down," she says, saying she never spoke to the gossip website about it.
Daniels says: "I was a much braver person in 2016 than I was in 2011."
Necheles retorts that her story was worth a lot more in 2016 than 2011.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is again challenging Stormy Daniels on the time she planned a news conference in 2016 but never went through with it.
"You are looking to extort money from President Trump," Necheles asks.
"False," Daniels says, raising her voice.
"That's what you did, right?" Necheles follows up.
"False," Daniels says again.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now asking Stormy Daniels on why she was going to sell her story if she was so afraid after being threatened.
Necheles implies that Daniels wasn't really scared, noting that after the supposed threat, Daniels "decided to do the opposite."
"I was terrified," Daniels says. "I just had to change my tactic because it was a new ballgame" now that Trump was a presidential candidate," she adds.
"The truth is you saw that opportunity to make money," Necheles says.
"I saw the opportunity to get the story out. I didn't put a price tag on it," Daniels responds.
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Judge Juan Merchan cuts off Trump attorney Susan Necheles to dismiss the jurors for the day.

"Alright jurors, let's call it a day," he says.
Hoo boy! What a day.
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Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
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nortex97 said:

Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
No. She's still on the stand. Keep her name out of his mouth would be better.
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The first rule of Trump: Always play offense. I don't always agree with it, but it is highly entertaining. Maybe he will instead read excerpts from the hunter laptop, Steele Dossier, and Ashley biden diary. Who knows.

I actually feel bad for him today. And I'm sure it's no 'accident' the prosecution called her on a tuesday so there'd be a 24 hour break before defense gets to finish, but the propaganda fake news folks are gonna trot her headlines out as though she is some sort of Betsy ross/underground railroad heroine.
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I don't do twitter so I accnot follow Inner City Press who is covering this trial. He's pretty good about getting a partial transcript of the what the lawyers and witnesses are saying. Very much more so than CNN's bloggers.

Robert Gouveia uses Inner City Press for his daily streams about the trial. So it should be more detailed with the all of the more salacious questions and answers from Stormy's testimony today.

He'll go live in about 75 minutes.

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Having skimmed this thread I have no idea what the charges are. Is this like that time he paid his bank loans in full, as agreed with interest and was prosecuted for that?
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Donald Trump called the prosecution's hush money case against him a disaster in remarks outside of the Manhattan court on Tuesday.
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"This was a very big day, a very revealing day as you see their case is totally falling apart. They have nothing on books and records and even something that shouldn't bear very little relationship to the case it's just a disaster for the DA," Trump said.
Trump did not discuss witness Stormy Daniels while he spoke to reporters.
The former president said he should be campaigning instead of sitting in court and thanked reporters for waiting outside the court all day.
Good Trump.
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aggiehawg said:

nortex97 said:

Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
No. She's still on the stand. Keep her name out of his mouth would be better.
this. And if I'm defense counsel, I do literally anything I can to get to the end of the day without passing the witness. Unfortunate assignment #1 for the day off is for an associate or two to watch every last smut film she's starred in from the moment the plumber knocks on the door until she's covered in his cock snot to find the one that matches the experience she allegedly had with Trump and then use it as a demonstrative first thing Thursday morning.
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At this time point I'm assuming the prosecution is going to try and argue that the covered-up "unlawful" behavior, which I believe is a necessity for the election law, is something to do with assault and/or extortion?

I guess NY doesn't require that to be listed with a grand jury indictment? Or can the trial judge "cure" it? IANAL and have been very confused on this.
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AustinAg2K said:

aggiehawg said:

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is now asking Stormy Daniels about her statements about being threatened in 2011.
Necheles asks it it's true that she didn't tell anyone about the supposed threat. Daniels says. that she told her close friends.
"You didn't tell your husband, father of child?" Necheles asks.
"Correct," Daniels said.
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Stormy Daniels is being asked about the time she was threatened by a man in Las Vegas.
She confirms she didn't tell anybody about the story until 2018 when she agreed it was "probably" in an interview with Anderson Cooper.
"I kept all of it secret from my husband," Daniels says.
"Your daughter's life was in jeopardy and you did not tell her father," Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks.
"Right," Daniels replies.


She's not going to tell the father, because Trump is the father!!!!




Trump denies the kid is his.
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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

aggiehawg said:

nortex97 said:

Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
No. She's still on the stand. Keep her name out of his mouth would be better.
this. And if I'm defense counsel, I do literally anything I can to get to the end of the day without passing the witness. Unfortunate assignment #1 for the day off is for an associate or two to watch every last smut film she's starred in from the moment the plumber knocks on the door until she's covered in his cock snot to find the one that matches the experience she allegedly had with Trump and then use it as a demonstrative first thing Thursday morning.
She also claimed to be smut director, meaning she did the blocking for the sex scenes and limited dialogue you find in any porn movie. So not just ones she appeared in any she directed.
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aggiehawg said:

ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

aggiehawg said:

nortex97 said:

Dear Lord I hope Trump walks outside the courtroom and starts talking to the camera's in short order.
No. She's still on the stand. Keep her name out of his mouth would be better.
this. And if I'm defense counsel, I do literally anything I can to get to the end of the day without passing the witness. Unfortunate assignment #1 for the day off is for an associate or two to watch every last smut film she's starred in from the moment the plumber knocks on the door until she's covered in his cock snot to find the one that matches the experience she allegedly had with Trump and then use it as a demonstrative first thing Thursday morning.
She also claimed to be smut director, meaning she did the blocking for the sex scenes and limited dialogue you find in any porn movie. So not just ones she appeared in any she directed.
point being that she's exceptionally well-versed in low-rent sex scenes and could probably create a narrative very quickly and easily based on past experience. I assume she spent several days prepping with prosecutors getting the story down cold - via direct and then some woodshedding on mock-cross to be sure she tells the same story reliably.

Giving defense the extra day break to review transcripts and prep may well turn out to be quite the blunder.
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels testifies she signed the new hush money deal.

After attorney Keith Davidson and her agent Gina Rodriguez took their fees, she ended up with "approximately $96,000," she said.
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The jury is being shown the November 4, 2016, Wall Street Journal story about American Media Inc.'s "catch and kill" deals involving Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.
Before the article came out, WSJ reporters reached out to Daniels for comment. She said she didn't respond.
"Because I had a NDA," Daniels said, referring to the nondisclosure agreement.
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Stormy Daniels says 2016 was probably her best year ever, as she rattles off several highlights from that year.

I am sure that the jurors and the American people will get to see her tax returns to see this amount claimed correct?
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point being that she's exceptionally well-versed in low-rent sex scenes and could probably create a narrative very quickly and easily based on past experience. I assume she spent several days prepping with prosecutors getting the story down cold - via direct and then some woodshedding on mock-cross to be sure she tells the same story reliably.

Giving defense the extra day break to review transcripts and prep may well turn out to be quite the blunder.
Agree. Now defense cross will be even longer since they kind of were caught flat footed for Stormy to be on the stand today. Yesterday, prosecutor informed the court they expected to take two weeks to finish their case in chief, which lead defense counsel to assume the star witnesses Stormy and Cohen would be closer to the end so most likely next week.

Going to be an intense preparation through the late hours of Wednesday night to get ready for Thursday.
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I apologize if it was brought up earlier in the thread, but does anyone have the wording or a link to the election law the prosecution is using here?
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Court sketch artist......lulz

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