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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.
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This testimony is like I'm reading a Penthouse Letter.
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Ag CPA said:

This testimony is like I'm reading a Penthouse Letter.
Soundtrack to Boogie Nights keeps running through my head.
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.

So, if Trump posts on Truth Social about the case, he is violating a gag order, but the prosecution can read from his posts. Interesting.

And...relevance of calling her sleazebag and horseface to the case? None.
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."

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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.

How is that relevant testimony to be allowed?
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aggiehawg said:


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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.

I wish she had started with "Good afternoon, Horseface, I mean Ms. Daniels"
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles started her cross-examination by asking Stormy Daniels, "You rehearsed your testimony here, right?" "No," Daniels said.
Nechels is reading Daniel's words back to her. "You agreed you were subjected to grueling prep sessions which included brutal mock cross examination?"
Daniels is raising her voice
"It is not rehearsing my testimony," Daniels says.
Necheles asks Daniels whether she was untruthful when she says she was subjected to mock cross-examination. "I was incorrect, I did not know what true court would be like," Daniels says.
She says on the stand that the prep sessions were "difficult" because it was "painful" to discuss her memories.
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"Am I correct that you hate President Trump?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels
"Yes," Daniels says.
Necheles then asks Daniels if she wants Trump to go to jail.
"I want him to be held accountable," she says.
Accountable for what?
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Gyles Marrett said:

aggiehawg said:


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Stormy Daniels says she has not yet paid all of the legal fees the courts say she owed Trump.
She says she has not paid them because she did not have the means and she did not think it was fair.

Wait, she had her best year ever in 2016 and by 2018 has no money again?
That woman's life has been littered with bad choices.

Poor girl everything blows up in her face.
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.


So what relevance does that have to the case? Why isn't the defense objecting to this? The only reason for that is to prejudice the jury on something that has nothing to do with the legality of whether or not the payment and subsequent recording of the payment was legal or not.

I wish an appeals court could step in pre-emptively during a trial when it's obvious to everyone it's a kangaroo court sham of a trial and a waste of taxpayer dollars.
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aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.

He called her horseface lmfao

I cannot stop laughing

That sounds like every poster on this site about AOC.

Daniels does have a horseface haha
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Before her "60 Minutes" appearance, Michael Avenatti Creepy Porn Lawyer. filed a lawsuit in March 2018 trying to get Stormy Daniels out of the nondisclosure agreement with Donald Trump.
By the fall of 2018, Michael Cohen and Donald Trump agreed not to enforce the NDA, Stormy Daniels confirms.
Daniels says she published a book after being freed of the NDA, titled "Full Disclosure." She says the book is about her life, and it includes some descriptions of Trump.

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Before her "60 Minutes" appearance, Michael Avenatti Creepy Porn Lawyer. filed a lawsuit in March 2018 trying to get Stormy Daniels out of the nondisclosure agreement with Donald Trump.


Stormy Daniels is asked whether Michael Avenatti is still her lawyer.
"No," Daniels says with emphasis.
"Because I fired him and then later he was found guilty of stealing from not just myself but several other clients."
Some background: Avenatti Creepy Porn Lawyer was sentenced in December 2022 to 14 years in prison and ordered to pay nearly $11 million in restitution for embezzling millions of dollars from four of his clients and obstruction.

The memories...
If you think I am a liberal, you are incorrect. Assume sarcasm on my part. Sorry if something I post has already been posted.
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Prosecutors Susan Necheles is challenging Stormy Daniels on her tweets about Trump and this case.
Necheles asks Daniels about a tweet she sent saying she would dance if Trump is "selected" to go to jail. Daniels laughs as she looks at the tweet. Daniels is mincing words with Necheles.
She says it's because of the word selected. "It isn't because you think this is all funny?" Necheles asks. No, Daniels says.
CNN misidentified who was on defense counsel.
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Stormy Daniels pushes back about the outcome of the defamation case with Donald Trump.
"He prevailed but I was not found to have lost," she says.
Trump's attorney Susan Necheles confirms with Daniels, however, that Trump was awarded roughly half a million dollars in legal fees after the case was dismissed.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles re-asks the question confirming Stormy Daniels owes the former president about $560,000 in legal fees.
And she says that in California there is a 10% interest that accrues.
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"You didn't take any money out of your pocket and pay it to President Trump, did you?" Necheles asks. "No," Daniels says

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"You have money right?" Necheles asks.
"We all have money," Daniels says.
"You're choosing not to pay President Trump, right," the attorney asks.
Daniels concedes, "I've chosen not to pay while it's still pending, yes."
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Im Gipper said:

It appears they are trying to establish Trump's practice with regard to reviewing and paying invoices.
If so, stupid
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Prosecutor Susan Necheles is asking Stormy Daniels about a March 2022 tweet, in which she wrote, "I will go to jail before I pay a penny?"
"Correct," Daniels says.
"You tweeted 'I will go to jail before I pay a penny,'" Necheles asks Daniels. Prosecutors objected to introducing the tweet into evidence. They're at the bench.
Trump leaned forward to look at the tweet on his screen.
She posted this around the time the Court of Appeals ordered her to pay the legal fees to Trump
"That is me saying I will not pay for telling the truth," Daniels says.
"My motivation was because I was telling the truth
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Stormy Daniels confirms that she's aware there is a case against her in Florida in which Trump is trying to collect the legal fees.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles notes there are three court orders ordering Stormy Danniels to pay the former president. She asks Daniels if she cares about the court order. "Of course, I care," she responds.
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"You are not going to do that, right?" Necheles then asked.
Daniels' replied, "I don't know."

ETA: This CNN blogger keeps making the same mistake.
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Pending?

She didn't appeal. The case was dismissed and she was ordered by the judge to pay Trump's legal fees
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Foreverconservative said:

Pending?

She didn't appeal. The case was dismissed and she was ordered by the judge to pay Trump's legal fees
That was my understanding too. Maybe she thinks the domesitication of CA judgment in FLA is not complete yet?
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Trump is not as engaged in the cross-examination as he was before lunch, when he appeared to be telling his attorneys to object. He's reading documents as they come on the screen but otherwise sitting back in his chair.

Stormy Daniels is sitting with her arms crossed.
Getting defensive?
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aggiehawg said:

Foreverconservative said:

Pending?

She didn't appeal. The case was dismissed and she was ordered by the judge to pay Trump's legal fees
That was my understanding too. Maybe she thinks the domesitication of CA judgment in FLA is not complete yet?
If Joe can ignore supreme court rulings I guess Stormy can ignore rulings against her too.
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Stormy Daniels was next asked about another tweet about Donald Trump in 2022 where she said "I'll never give that orange turd a dime."
Daniels said that the tweet is "in retaliation for what he said to me, yes."
Necheles confirmed, "You call him names all the time."
Daniels said, "yes."
"Because he made fun of me first," she added.
"One of you started it but you both continued it, right?," Necheles asked.
"Correct," Daniels said.
The jury is not revealing anything on their faces as Daniels is being cross-examined.
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Stormy Daniels appears tense as she answers questions form Trump's legal team.

It's a noticeable shift from the casual conversational tone she had during direct examination with prosecutors earlier today.
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is trying to get into evidence a form partly filled out that asks for details about Stormy Daniel's finances.
It's a form she's required to fill out describing her assets.
Daniels said publicly in interviews, including with Jeff Toobin, that she wouldn't fill it out, and she'd go to jail before filling it out.
Now on the stand, Daniels says she wouldn't fill it out because it asked questions about her daughter.
Necheles asked her to confirm the form only asks for her daughter's name. Daniels says she didn't know.
Trump is looking closely at the form on the screen that Necheles is trying to enter into evidence.
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aggiehawg said:

rgag12 said:

So when does Bragg file rape charges? (Half kidding)
This encounter supposedly occurred in Lake Tahoe. No jurisdiction in NY.
He's using federal law in his case...do you really think jurisdiction is important to him now?
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Can someone remind me of the actual crime here?

Is it paying off an idiot that is such an idiot that you never needed to have paid her to begin with because she is an absolute buffoon?

But seriously, just to make sure I stay focused on the actual point of the trial...this is still all about how a payment for an NDA was entered into the ledger, correct?
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After a brief trip by the attorneys to the bench, Trump attorney Susan Necheles confirms that Stormy Daniels didn't fill out her spouse's income on the form.
"I won't fill out information that endangers my family or my daughter," Daniels says.
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Necheles then asks:
"Do you have bank accounts?"
"Yes."
"Did you tell that on the form?"
"I didn't fill out this form."
Daniels says the form went to her attorney who's been handling it and didn't send it to her to sign.
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Tramp96 said:

Can someone remind me of the actual crime here?

Is it paying off an idiot that is such an idiot that you never needed to have paid her to begin with because she is an absolute buffoon?

But seriously, just to make sure I stay focused on the actual point of the trial...this is still all about how a payment for an NDA was entered into the ledger, correct?
According to the indictment, yes.
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bobbranco said:

Gyles Marrett said:

aggiehawg said:


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Stormy Daniels says she has not yet paid all of the legal fees the courts say she owed Trump.
She says she has not paid them because she did not have the means and she did not think it was fair.

Wait, she had her best year ever in 2016 and by 2018 has no money again?
That woman's life has been littered with bad choices.

Poor girl everything blows up in her face.
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Tramp96 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Stormy Daniels says Donald Trump has called her "sleazebag" and "horseface" multiple times.
The prosecutor has displayed Trump's "'Horseface' case" post on Truth Social from March 15, 2023.
She's now reading Trump's post aloud.
Daniels says the post, in which the former president says he hadn't seen or spoken to Daniels since a photo on a golf course 18 years ago, is false "because I met with him numerous times after that and spoke to him on the phone countless times."
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Trump attorney Susan Necheles is starting her cross-examination of Stormy Daniels.

"Good afternoon, Ms. Daniels," Necheles says.


So what relevance does that have to the case? Why isn't the defense objecting to this? The only reason for that is to prejudice the jury on something that has nothing to do with the legality of whether or not the payment and subsequent recording of the payment was legal or not.

I wish an appeals court could step in pre-emptively during a trial when it's obvious to everyone it's a kangaroo court sham of a trial and a waste of taxpayer dollars.
If there is a mistrial here, then he has to go through the whole thing again. There's no doubt they'll fast track it and have it scheduled for October. It'd be better if he just wins this one.
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Im Gipper said:

Foreverconservative said:

Why the defense isn't raising hell over the failure to invoke the Molineux rule of New York State I have no clue. And even if this quack judge wants to overrule Molineux under state law If irrelevant and or prejudicial evidence is admitted, the court still has to give instructions to the jury, relating to the specific purpose of the evidence and recognizing it's irrelevancy. See F.R.E. rule 404(b).
Federal Rules of Evidence?



He's being accused of a federal crime what's your point
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The questioning remains focused on Stormy Daniels' finances.
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"Isn't it true that you've been hiding your assets because you don't want to pay the judgment against you?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks. "No," Daniels said.
Daniels also denied setting up a trust for her daughter.
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aggiehawg said:

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After a brief trip by the attorneys to the bench, Trump attorney Susan Necheles confirms that Stormy Daniels didn't fill out her spouse's income on the form.
"I won't fill out information that endangers my family or my daughter," Daniels says.
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Necheles then asks:
"Do you have bank accounts?"
"Yes."
"Did you tell that on the form?"
"I didn't fill out this form."
Daniels says the form went to her attorney who's been handling it and didn't send it to her to sign.

Just imagine if the ruling was flipped and big bad orange man was refusing to fill out the form or pay Stormy...Straight to the gallows!
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aggiehawg said:

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"I won't fill out information that endangers my family or my daughter," Daniels says.


I keep waiting for someone to produce a DNA report that shows Trump is the father.
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FRE have no place/role in a state court, and in this instance the feds said he didn't warrant being charged for any related crime, it's the state that decided to incorporate reference to the federal law as a state crime. It's all so funny you have to laugh, even at the left's inability to make a joke about it.

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aggiehawg said:

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Trump is not as engaged in the cross-examination as he was before lunch, when he appeared to be telling his attorneys to object. He's reading documents as they come on the screen but otherwise sitting back in his chair.

Stormy Daniels is sitting with her arms crossed.
Getting defensive?
Getting ready for the eventual eruption.
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"Isn't it true that you are hoping that if Donald Trump is convicted, you'll never have to pay him?" Trump attorney Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels, referring to the legal fees Daniels owes Trump.

"I hope I don't have to pay him no matter what happens," Daniels says.
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Prosecutor Susan Necheles is questioning Stormy Daniels about her finances related to Trump.
"You've been making money by claiming to have had sex with President Trump for more than a decade," Necheles asks.
"I've been making money by telling my story about what happened to me," Daniels says.
Trump is leaning back in his chair with his eyes closed.
"That story has made you a lot of money, right?" Necheles asks.
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"It's also cost me a lot of money," Daniels says.

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Susan Necheles asks Stormy Daniels about whether she spoke to attorney Gloria Allred in 2011 about whether she could sue Donald Trump for money.
After a pause, Daniels testified, "I don't remember what was talked about in that conversation."
"I also told her I had sex with Donald Trump."
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I'm a little surprised they're spending this much time on her financial situation. I imagine it could be for a variety of reasons but I wasn't expecting this.
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