*** Official Trump Hush Money Trial Thread ***

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shiftyandquick said:

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An absurd sentencing by Merchan could spur SCOTUS to get involved, I would think.

A suspended sentence with probation, no domestic travel restrictions would likely be innocuous enough. But jail, house arrest at Mar A Lago? Preventing him from campaigning? That might be too much election interference for them to swallow.
Weekends in the clink for 1 year. Let's do it.
Do that and SCOTUS more likely steps in.
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shiftyandquick said:

aggiehawg said:

An absurd sentencing by Merchan could spur SCOTUS to get involved, I would think.

A suspended sentence with probation, no domestic travel restrictions would likely be innocuous enough. But jail, house arrest at Mar A Lago? Preventing him from campaigning? That might be too much election interference for them to swallow.
Weekends in the clink for 1 year. Let's do it.

That will get him more money and more votes. Your boy Biden will be blown away. Let's do it!
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aezmvp said:

They're supporting a rapist, incestuous pedophile corrupt criminal for President. We're only 1/5 according to them. So I mean....


You just described Bill Clinton, now do Biden, rofl.
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Rockdoc said:


Your boy Biden will be blown away.
I think it's more likely a commie lunatic blows Trump away. Biden will just be paid to go away before their convention in August.
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Didn't know Clinton was incestuous. Oops. My bad.
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A liberal wanting to put non violent offenders in prison. That's a first.
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Gigem314 said:

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milner79 said:

A country in distress.

This kind of thing does those who actually served in wars and had a REAL need to fly it a great disservice. Those folks often died.
Uh, the greater disservice to those who died for a free country is what's happening under its current leadership and climate. But yes, let's get upset over someone posting an image of an upside down flag. Definitely the more important thing to be concerned about.
Cool. So go ahead and pick up a purple heart from the military surplus and wear it around. Ridiculous. And remember too that flying the flag upside down is what the liberal hippies did in the sixties. So guess you have that in common.
Uh, what does picking up a purple heart and wearing it around have to do with the current **** show going on with our country's leadership? You're just babbling and deflecting.

But hey, keep on showing more outrage over someone posting an image on a message board than what's actually happening in our country right now. You've clearly got your priorities straight.


Member how she constantly tells us she's conservative?

I member.
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HTownAg98 said:

He wasn't randomly selected. He got the case because of the other cases in Trump's orbit that he'd presided over.

Which further goes to prove my point that any X/Twitter post you see with flashing beacons should be viewed with great skepticism.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

He wasn't randomly selected. He got the case because of the other cases in Trump's orbit that he'd presided over.
I would say that is even worse. Stalinist.

A Biden donor judge. A DOJ prosecutor. In Manhattan. Two lawyers "randomly" on the jury.
I agree but didn't the defense have the opportunity to take them off the jury?
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Maybe if Trump is elected we will finally start to see some national reforms for felons, about getting reformed persons with felons back into society successfully? This could be a very good thing, as we may have our first felon President. Who, as I understand it as a resident of New York state, can indeed vote. He must be grateful for that reform.
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You realize that's a state issue. States are responsible for parole unless it's a federal crime. Do you really not know that? It's pretty sad.
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SpreadsheetAg said:




FJB!
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shiftyandquick said:

Maybe if Trump is elected we will finally start to see some national reforms for felons, about getting reformed persons with felons back into society successfully? This could be a very good thing, as we may have our first felon President. Who, as I understand it as a resident of New York state, can indeed vote. He must be grateful for that reform.
Hopefully we'll see the fascist left get a taste of their own medicine so they will think twice before pulling this garbage. Unequal justice won't be tolerated forever.
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Dems trying to use this ruling to repair Hillary Clinton??

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SpreadsheetAg said:

Dems trying to use this ruling to repair Hillary Clinton??


LOL. They are predicatable and stupid. She didn't win. She lost in big time fashion. Not to mention was given a free pass on her own email server shenanigans as well as trying to influence the election with a bogus Russian pee tape dossier paid for by her through Perkins Coie. She's lucky to not be in jail herself, but I guess it isn't really luck, just have to be a Dem.
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shiftyandquick said:

Maybe if Trump is elected we will finally start to see some national reforms for felons, about getting reformed persons with felons back into society successfully? This could be a very good thing, as we may have our first felon President. Who, as I understand it as a resident of New York state, can indeed vote. He must be grateful for that reform.


You belong in that progressive **** hole of a state.
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[Stop harassing other posters -- Staff]
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Oh Wolf Blitzer....trying to pin Vance down to agreeing with Trump that the US has turned fascist...

Hrm, let's see.

Quote:

facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
exalts nation and often race above the individual <= check ++
centralized autocratic government <= government to decide all. check
headed by a dictatorial leader <= Eff the supreme court, I can forgive student loans all I want. check
severe economic and social regimentation <= yup, every action is heading this way. check
forcible suppression of opposition <= yup, check the box here too

I guess we have to be fascist to save our democracy.
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ugh.. and she failed at socialist national health care policy as first lady, was a carpet-bagging junior senator who only won there because her opponent dropped out with gall bladder cancer, and was one of the worst SoS's ever with Benghazi... she tried to destroy evidence in an investigation with bleach bit and hammers and her campaign paid for a hoax about her political opponent in 2016 that dragged on for four years. one of the most disgusting vile corrupt politicians we've ever had.
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What a walking vegetable
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Gigem314 said:

BluHorseShu said:

Gigem314 said:

BluHorseShu said:

milner79 said:

A country in distress.

This kind of thing does those who actually served in wars and had a REAL need to fly it a great disservice. Those folks often died.
Uh, the greater disservice to those who died for a free country is what's happening under its current leadership and climate. But yes, let's get upset over someone posting an image of an upside down flag. Definitely the more important thing to be concerned about.
Cool. So go ahead and pick up a purple heart from the military surplus and wear it around. Ridiculous. And remember too that flying the flag upside down is what the liberal hippies did in the sixties. So guess you have that in common.
Uh, what does picking up a purple heart and wearing it around have to do with the current **** show going on with our country's leadership? You're just babbling and deflecting.

But hey, keep on showing more outrage over someone posting an image on a message board than what's actually happening in our country right now. You've clearly got your priorities straight.


Member how she constantly tells us she's conservative?

I member.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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We fixed the keg said:



Oh Wolf Blitzer....trying to pin Vance down to agreeing with Trump that the US has turned fascist...

Hrm, let's see.

Quote:

facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
exalts nation and often race above the individual <= check ++
centralized autocratic government <= government to decide all. check
headed by a dictatorial leader <= Eff the supreme court, I can forgive student loans all I want. check
severe economic and social regimentation <= yup, every action is heading this way. check
forcible suppression of opposition <= yup, check the box here too

I guess we have to be fascist to save our democracy.
Looks like Wolf parroting the line that some here have used that "this jury was approved by Trump's lawyers" as though that magically wipes away the stain of a corrupt judge and prosecutor.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Dems trying to use this ruling to repair Hillary Clinton??


Wait...

I've been told that saying an election was stolen makes you an ELECTION DENIER and a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!

This X poster is an INSURRECTIONIST!
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oh no said:

ugh.. and she failed at socialist national health care policy as first lady, was a carpet-bagging junior senator who only won there because her opponent dropped out with gall bladder cancer, and was one of the worst SoS's ever with Benghazi... she tried to destroy evidence in an investigation with bleach bit and hammers and her campaign paid for a hoax about her political opponent in 2016 that dragged on for four years. one of the most disgusting vile corrupt politicians we've ever had.
Don't forget...it was HER campaign that created the "Obama wasn't born in America" story...
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Remember when I was surprised during the jury charge when Cohen was first referred to as an "accomplice" and the jury being given an instruction as to that?

Problematical in that the indictment had no charges not only for conspiracy but neither on "aiding and abetting" which would have been a separate charge. Again, blatant 6th amendment violation as a defendant has to have fair notice of the crimes with which they have been charged, BEFORE trial. Not during the jury charge.
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GenericAggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

He wasn't randomly selected. He got the case because of the other cases in Trump's orbit that he'd presided over.
I would say that is even worse. Stalinist.

A Biden donor judge. A DOJ prosecutor. In Manhattan. Two lawyers "randomly" on the jury.
I agree but didn't the defense have the opportunity to take them off the jury?
The defense was only allowed so many strikes. In Manhattan, that voted 85% for Biden. The odds were heavily against them. By design.

So, not exactly.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

GenericAggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

He wasn't randomly selected. He got the case because of the other cases in Trump's orbit that he'd presided over.
I would say that is even worse. Stalinist.

A Biden donor judge. A DOJ prosecutor. In Manhattan. Two lawyers "randomly" on the jury.
I agree but didn't the defense have the opportunity to take them off the jury?
The defense was only allowed so many strikes. In Manhattan, that voted 85% for Biden. The odds were heavily against them. By design.

So, not exactly.

Wouldn't they have at least tried to remove 1 of the 2? I understand your point and think this process was a complete sham, inexcusable, and embarrassing beyond pale.
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We fixed the keg said:



Oh Wolf Blitzer....trying to pin Vance down to agreeing with Trump that the US has turned fascist...

Hrm, let's see.

Quote:

facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
exalts nation and often race above the individual <= check ++
centralized autocratic government <= government to decide all. check
headed by a dictatorial leader <= Eff the supreme court, I can forgive student loans all I want. check
severe economic and social regimentation <= yup, every action is heading this way. check
forcible suppression of opposition <= yup, check the box here too

I guess we have to be fascist to save our democracy.
That was an awesome interview. I used to have respect for Wolf Blitzer, way back in the day when he was reporting on the first Gulf War and CNN was a news network.
J.D. Vance absolutely nailed this interview. That is how you handle hostile media. I cannot imaging Blitzer actually believes a thing he says (more accurately, is asked to say by those paying his salary). No sentient being with a shred of honesty and a functioning brain who is as up-to-date on what happened in this trial would believe Donald Trump deserved 34 felony counts for his role in a misclassified campaign expense. We are, without a doubt, heading towards Fascism. And Vance nailed it when he said that is what we would be if the entire country were made up of a bunch of NYCs.
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Wolf Blitzer is such a gigantic piece of *****
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This is an absolutely hilarious. These ****ing idiots cried for YEARS about how the FBI investigation into Hillary for "muh emails" hurt her election chances and was an attack by Republicans to damage a political opponent. These ****ing hypocrites do this over and over and over again, and it ALWAYS comes back to bite them. Harry Reid changes the rules re: appointing federal judges, MCConnell tells him he'll regret it, just 3 years later McConnell refuses to take up Garland's ***** ass for a vote, and then puts in Gorsitch, Kavanaugh and Barrett (in an election year).

Can't wait for this to play out.
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Jack Boyette said:

This is an absolutely hilarious. These ****ing idiots cried for YEARS about how the FBI investigation into Hillary for "muh emails" hurt her election chances and was an attack by Republicans to damage a political opponent. These ****ing hypocrites do this over and over and over again, and it ALWAYS comes back to bite them. Harry Reid changes the rules re: appointing federal judges, MCConnell tells him he'll regret it, just 3 years later McConnell refuses to take up Garland's ***** ass for a vote, and then puts in Gorsitch, Kavanaugh and Barrett (in an election year).

Can't wait for this to play out.
Although DOJ has a policy about not indicting a sitting President, Texas does not. So what is Paxton going to pull out of his bags of tricks? (half joking.)
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I'm so ready to cut ties with these idiots. I don't want to compromise with these ****ing morons.
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GenericAggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

GenericAggie said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

He wasn't randomly selected. He got the case because of the other cases in Trump's orbit that he'd presided over.
I would say that is even worse. Stalinist.

A Biden donor judge. A DOJ prosecutor. In Manhattan. Two lawyers "randomly" on the jury.
I agree but didn't the defense have the opportunity to take them off the jury?
The defense was only allowed so many strikes. In Manhattan, that voted 85% for Biden. The odds were heavily against them. By design.

So, not exactly.

Wouldn't they have at least tried to remove 1 of the 2? I understand your point and think this process was a complete sham, inexcusable, and embarrassing beyond pale.
Go back and read the jury selection portion of this thread. I do not specifically remember what happened with the lawyers.
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That was an awesome interview. I used to have respect for Wolf Blitzer, way back in the day when he was reporting on the first Gulf War and CNN was a news network.
They were not. Even back then.
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