Trump Sues ABC News/Stephanopoulos for Defamation.

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EX TEXASEX
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Harris won women by 8%, Biden won them by 13%. I guess we have too many female misogynists.

It's also ridiculous to claim a country that elected Barack Obama twice is too racist to vote for the black lady.
And yet, here we are.
EX TEXASEX
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This video was probably her ticket to go from teaching at the local community college straight to Dept. Head of Poly Sci at an Ivy League School.

P.s She might be a moron, but she is humble I will give her that
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She deleted her account, LOL.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Gaeilge said:

The $15MM will be in the form of a donation towards Trump's Presidential Library!

$1MM for his attorneys.


The Donald J. Trump Presidential Library
Permanent Exhibit for Disinformation

Proudly supported and funded by ABC News


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HTownAg98
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Rockdoc said:

Love the tears. Get used to it.

Why? I voted for Trump. You seem to have forgotten that.

This case was always going to settle because ABC had some bad facts on their side, Trump prefers to settle lawsuits when he can, and juries are unpredictable.
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chap said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

Gaeilge said:

The $15MM will be in the form of a donation towards Trump's Presidential Library!

$1MM for his attorneys.


The Donald J. Trump Presidential Library
Permanent Exhibit for Disinformation

Proudly supported and funded by ABC News



The trolling on X is one if its great features.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Logos Stick said:

Mondemonium said:

fredfredunderscorefred said:

Mondemonium said:

The judge used the word "rape." This case is so dumb. It also just draws more attention to the verdict again in an election year.



Wild times we live in. Presidential candidate: "Forceable finger banging is not rape!"

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That's the judge being stupid trying to find her defamed her by denying rape. Read the literal first question:

Did she prove he raped her? Jury: NO.


So when Stephanopplous (or any other idiot) says a jury found he raped her, that is demonstrably 100% false.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/09/nyregion/trump-liable-verdict-form-jury.html
go check any dictionary definition

Also, https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape

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"The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
This lawsuit is laughable from a legal perspective, but I'm sure his lawyers knew that. This is 100% for political purposes and perhaps an even more sinister objective as has already been mentioned in this thread -- to repeal laws protecting the media so when Mr. Authoritarian dictator gets elected he can dismantle the Fourth Estate.


Bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

So laughable from a legal perspective that Trump won. It was not hard at all to anyone with a brain.
Liberals lie. It's what they do.


It's a cornerstone principle of their wicked pagan religion.
As Dennis Prager frequently says, "Truth is not a left wing value."
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VegasAg86 said:

EX TEXASEX said:

APHIS AG said:

Mondemonium said:

I'd bet the farm on a quick dismissal by the court, even in Florida. You may disagree, but I'm right.
Of course you are!!!! Like all liberals, you are "always" right!!!

Just like this last election.
Reminds me of this lady. I'll call here Echo Chamber Elanor . The tears are delicious !!




Harris won women by 8%, Biden won them by 13%. I guess we have too many female misogynists.

It's also ridiculous to claim a country that elected Barack Obama twice is too racist to vote for the black lady.
It's just a crutch for the left they always default to when they lose. It can't be the message. It has to be that people are racist and misogynistic.
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I do so love going through these threads where the lefties and Never Trumpers are once again proven to be far out of their depth. And then they disappear, hide, or change their usernames, and, like a turd in a low-e toilet, pop up on another thread making the same uninformed statements.
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Old McDonald said:

donald trump had his day in court and was found liable for sexual abuse

i'll admit i didn't expect maga would be dumb enough to confidently trot out the "it wasn't rape it was just sexual abuse" defense but here we are
This aged well....
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There's a section of the Clinton Library a/k/a The Presidential Trailer on the River, that's entitled, "The Politics of Personal Persecution." Or maybe "Personal Destruction" forget which. Just ridiculous.
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will25u said:


Looks like ABC was worried about what would come out in the deposition...
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2000AgPhD said:

I do so love going through these threads where the lefties and Never Trumpers are once again proven to be far out of their depth. And then they disappear, hide, or change their usernames, and, like a turd in a low-e toilet, pop up on another thread making the same uninformed statements.
This is one of the best posts so far this century. Whack a Mole comes to mind too, but that gives moles a bad name.
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Methinks ABC was unsuccessful in severely limiting the scope of that deposition to just that one broadcast. Every can of worms was on the table. That would have shown a pattern of behavior, malice, that would have overcome the New York Times v. Sullivan precedent.
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aggiehawg said:



There's a section of the Clinton Library a/k/a The Presidential Trailer on the River, that's entitled, "The Politics of Personal Persecution." Or maybe "Personal Destruction" forget which. Just ridiculous.
It's the "politics of personal destruction" per this source.
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Thanks for the clarification. Been a few years since we were there. Were staying at The Peabody down the street and had a few hours to kill before the next wedding event for The Hubs' brother. We figured a tour of the law library would burn up at least an hour and a half. But it was so tacky and scrimpy we were done after 30 minutes. Have no idea where the tens and tens of millions raised for that folly went but it sure did not go into that joke of a Presidential Library.
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2000AgPhD said:

I do so love going through these threads where the lefties and Never Trumpers are once again proven to be far out of their depth. And then they disappear, hide, or change their usernames, and, like a turd in a low-e toilet, pop up on another thread making the same uninformed statements.
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It has another nick-name too, something like 'the house of mirrors' based on being all glass on the outside.
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Well...

Buh-bye!

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The media has been colluding with the administration to attack political enemies and they did not want the details that prove them to be a modern day Goebbels discovered

So they'll pay a chunk of cash and the commie midget will apologize
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Have you read the apology? It's not much of an apology. Plus, ABC gets to write off that donation as a charitable contribution.
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HTownAg98 said:

Have you read the apology? It's not much of an apology. Plus, ABC gets to write off that donation as a charitable contribution.
No it isn't but the way they narrowed it down to that one specific newscast is why I surmised ABC was not able to restrict the scope of George's deposition and ABC did not want to take that chance.
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I didn't see anything on the docket that suggests they tried to do so.
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Gotta love the water carriers. This is only the start of getting the lib media back in line. Gonna be a great 4 years.
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Mondemonium:

"Look, a jury of handpicked Trump haters and a hand picked Anti-Trump judge in a Civil suit with zero evidence requirements found that Trump was in fact the Dark Lord Sauron returned to bring an age of darkness upon Middle Earth so it's completely fair to say that he is in fact the one true Lord if the Rings!"
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Mondemonium said:

I'd bet the farm on a quick dismissal by the court, even in Florida. You may disagree, but I'm right.


Please send me the deed to your farm. You were wrong.
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HTownAg98 said:

Have you read the apology? It's not much of an apology. Plus, ABC gets to write off that donation as a charitable contribution.
Call it what you will. It's an admission that Stephanapoolous lied.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

Have you read the apology? It's not much of an apology. Plus, ABC gets to write off that donation as a charitable contribution.
Call it what you will. It's an admission that Stephanapoolous lied.

Is it though? Here's the statement:
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"ABC News and George Stephanopoulos regret statements regarding President Donald J. Trump made during an interview by George Stephanopoulos with Rep. Nancy Mace on ABC's This Week on March 10, 2024."

That's pretty weak. There's no retraction, no statement about what the statements are that they regret making, or why they regret making those statements. Frankly, I'm surprised Trump's attorneys went along with that, but that could have been part of the give and take in the settlement negotiations.
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Of course. It's not completely obvious what statement. We definitely needed that spelled out in the response. /S
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Here is a good post from Bryon York on this:

"you can see from discussion of the Trump-Stephanopoulos defamation settlement, Judge Lewis Kaplan's post-verdict effort to redefine the result of the E. Jean Carroll case has proven extremely valuable to Trump adversaries who claim that Trump is a "rapist." The jury specifically found that Carroll did *not* prove that Trump raped her, even by the low standards in effect at the trial. You can look at the verdict form -- the jurors checked "No" on the rape question. Instead, the jury found that Trump "sexually abused" Carroll. You'd think that would be enough for Resistance types; they can accurately say that Trump was found liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll. But no -- they want to call it rape.

That's where Judge Kaplan came in. When Trump's lawyers asked for a new trial, Kaplan denied the motion and used the occasion to express his opinion that the jury had, in fact, found Trump liable for rape. To make his case, Kaplan had to cast far and wide for definitions of rape that fit his purposes. He argued that the jury had "implicitly" found that Trump raped Carroll if one judges the question by: 1) the definition of rape in Dictionary.com; 2) the definition of rape in the Uniform Code of Military Justice; 3) the definition of rape accepted by the American Psychological Association; and 4) the definition of rape used in federal crime reporting statistics. Unfortunately for Kaplan, none of those standards was in effect in New York law, under which the case was brought and tried.

Nevertheless, Kaplan concluded that, "The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape.' Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump did exactly that."

For Resistance warriors, and their allies in the media, that was the money quote. See? Trump raped E. Jean Carroll! Judge Kaplan says Dictionary.com says so!

It was a stunning declaration. When the verdict form asked "Did Ms. Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr. Trump raped Ms. Carroll?" the jury answered "No." How can one be clearer than that? And the jury reached its conclusion by following Judge Kaplan's own instructions. And then, after the verdict, the judge tried to upend the whole thing.

By the way, Kaplan's statement did not receive a huge amount of media attention. But a short time later, a quasi-opinion writer at the Washington Post published an "analysis" with the headline "Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll." And that was enough for the anti-Trump world. Look around today, and almost all of them cite the Post article as proof that Trump raped Carroll.

One of the believers, apparently, was ABC's George Stephanopoulos. And now that ABC and Stephanopoulos have settled a defamation suit by agreeing to give $15 million to a future Trump Presidential Library, plus pay $1 million of Trump's legal costs, you're seeing a lot of anti-Trump types claim that Stephanopoulos was right when he repeatedly said on ABC that Trump had been found liable for raping Carroll. Just look at what Judge Kaplan said and read the Washington Post article, they argue.

But the facts remain the facts. The jury, acting on Judge Kaplan's instructions, specifically found that Carroll had not proven Trump raped her. The jury decided the case. Whatever Kaplan said in a motion afterward does not change the jury's verdict. Still, the judge did a great favor to Resistance world by lending his name and authority to one of the anti-Trump left's favorite talking points."
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HTownAg98 said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

HTownAg98 said:

Have you read the apology? It's not much of an apology. Plus, ABC gets to write off that donation as a charitable contribution.
Call it what you will. It's an admission that Stephanapoolous lied.

Is it though? Here's the statement:
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"ABC News and George Stephanopoulos regret statements regarding President Donald J. Trump made during an interview by George Stephanopoulos with Rep. Nancy Mace on ABC's This Week on March 10, 2024."

That's pretty weak. There's no retraction, no statement about what the statements are that they regret making, or why they regret making those statements. Frankly, I'm surprised Trump's attorneys went along with that, but that could have been part of the give and take in the settlement negotiations.
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Noctilucent said:

2000AgPhD said:

I do so love going through these threads where the lefties and Never Trumpers are once again proven to be far out of their depth. And then they disappear, hide, or change their usernames, and, like a turd in a low-e toilet, pop up on another thread making the same uninformed statements.
This is one of the best posts so far this century. Whack a Mole comes to mind too, but that gives moles a bad name.


So True!
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Logos Stick said:

Here is a good post from Bryon York on this:

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But the facts remain the facts. The jury, acting on Judge Kaplan's instructions, specifically found that Carroll had not proven Trump raped her. The jury decided the case. Whatever Kaplan said in a motion afterward does not change the jury's verdict. Still, the judge did a great favor to Resistance world by lending his name and authority to one of the anti-Trump left's favorite talking points."

That was the whole point of the sham. None of their lawfare worked.
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Lol…


Lefties use * checks notes * "dictionary.com" for their attempts to define law. LOLZ


From being unable to out think a two-year old (two-year olds know the difference between boys and girls) to attempting to redefine law via dictionary.com to not understanding we are NOT a democracy, they continue to show they are in fact
DEMOCRAZY.


They are literally broken in their belief that Marxism is the right way and its end justifies any and all means.

Repugnant… yet many on here just keep doubling-down.
 
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