The Tucker interview with Putin

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5:26p, 2/8/24
Ten minutes in Putin is unquestionably a serious Russian Nationalist. He starts with a in depth history lesson going back to 862 mostly bashing the Poles.

He seriously and dangerously Poland . It doesnt take much to see where his next target is.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:29p, 2/8/24
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And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:30p, 2/8/24
That's the whole point of the US sending arms to Ukraine. Ukraine is in the way of Russia's real targets.

Russia's declining population and indefensible geography have made the more paranoid nationalists like Putin believe that the only way they can survive is to secure chokepoints against future land invasion. This means securing the mountainous region in Moldova and parts of Hungary, taking back Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia and taking over parts of Poland.

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5:31p, 2/8/24

Sorry meant to say he seriously and dangerously HATES Poland. It starts off very dry but his passion and justification of the war is very real to him.

This dude is dangerous and a true believer in what he is saying. At 24 min in he gets to modern times specifically 1991.
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No Spin Ag
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In reply to Teslag • 5:32p, 2/8/24
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 5:33p, 2/8/24
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That's the whole point of the US sending arms to Ukraine. Ukraine is in the way of Russia's real targets.
And it is a hell of a lot cheaper to pay for the Ukrainians to bleed the Russians dry of men and equipment than it would be to go to the aid of NATO member Poland with our own men and equipment 10 years from now if we let Russia take what they want from Ukraine.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:34p, 2/8/24
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ttu_85 said:

Sorry meant to say he seriously and dangerously HATES Poland. It starts off very dry but his passion and justification of the war is very real to him.

This dude is dangerous and a true believer in what he is saying.


Well put. Who Putin is and what he believes isn't a secret. He's not a complicated man with mysterious intent. The lionization and justification (and in some cases idolization) of him is maddening. If something walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and in this case tells you he's a duck…


he's probably a duck.
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5:34p, 2/8/24
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Well you can't attack Poland from eastern Ukraine. You'd need to take all of it. Eastern Ukraine has never been his goal.
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5:37p, 2/8/24
So Putin cannot even take UKE but hes' going to take Poland and all of Eastern Europe? sigggh he we go again.

Military industrial complex never sleeps
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In reply to Jeeper79 • 5:37p, 2/8/24
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Well you can't attack Poland from eastern Ukraine. You'd need to take all of it. Eastern Ukraine has never been his goal.
Yes, but after a few years of cease fire to rebuild his army and restock equipment, he will be ready to make another run at Western Ukraine and might succeed in convincing Belarus to help this time.
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 5:37p, 2/8/24
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No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
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In reply to Jeeper79 • 5:37p, 2/8/24
They were hoping for a quick takeover and then a surge into Moldova. Then they bide their time and politically try to splinter NATO piece by piece.

Russia has a long history of being invaded and nationalists like Putin are paranoid as hell that it will happen again as their population declines. Right now Russian territory is mostly a bunch of flat land to the west that is very difficult to defend. There are no geographical features between Eastern Europe and Moscow to slow down a land invasion.

Putin's plan from the very start of taking power was to secure potential invasion routes. That's why he has puppet leaders in places like Chechnya and invaded Georgia. Ukraine is on the way to Moldova and the Carpathians. He wants control of geographical chokepoints west of Moscow.
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5:38p, 2/8/24
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Thought Obama's apology tours got rid of all mean people. I don't understand this aggression. Love, not hate. No human is illegal. Science is real. Kindness is everything.
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 5:38p, 2/8/24
AtticusMatlock said:
They were hoping for a quick takeover and then a surge into Moldova. Then they bide their time and politically try to splinter NATO piece by piece.
laughable thought Russia was losing its population and economy was in tatters now they are taking over sovereign countries?
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 5:38p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Paying for motivated people who want to defend their homeland to kill invaders is fine by me.
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No Spin Ag
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 5:39p, 2/8/24
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.


It does, it all does. If only Putin didn't invade.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:40p, 2/8/24
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Barbara Walters is probably in hell right now for interviewing Putin.

Apparently, if you do this, you are pure evil.


Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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5:41p, 2/8/24
Putin will speak out against indoctrination of American children with gender identity politics. This will cause the left to step on the gas.

Putin knows the real useful idiots are those that will oppose him at all costs.
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Funky Winkerbean
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 5:41p, 2/8/24
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No Spin Ag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.


It does, it all does. If only Putin didn't invade.


Or Ukraine surrendered.
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In reply to 911sAg • 5:41p, 2/8/24
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911sAg said:
So Putin cannot even take UKE but hes' going to take Poland and all of Eastern Europe? sigggh he we go again.

Military industrial complex never sleeps



What Putin can do and what he wants to do are different but relevant. And equally dangerous.
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 5:42p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.


It does, it all does. If only Putin didn't invade.


Or Ukraine surrendered.


Why should a nation surrender if the can fight?
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5:42p, 2/8/24
Around the 30 minute mark it get very interesting. Russia in NATO ???? It was brought up.

Note I will not pass judgement just point out particularly interesting segments.

Additional Segments:

TIMESTAMP HEADLINE: 00:00:00
Introduction: 00:02:00
Putin gives a history of Russia & Ukraine: 00:25:04
NATO Expansion: 00:30:40
NATO & Bill Clinton: 00:41:10
Ukraine: 00:48:30
What triggered this conflict?: 01:02:37
A peaceful solution?: 01:11:33
Who blew Nord Stream pipelines: 01:24:13
Re-establ communication with US: 01:36:33
How powerful is Zelensky? : 01:48:36
Elon Musk & AI: 01:51:07
Imprisoned American journalist Evan Gershkovich
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 5:44p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Wait… You think both sides are innocent?
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In reply to Teslag • 5:45p, 2/8/24
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Teslag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.


It does, it all does. If only Putin didn't invade.


Or Ukraine surrendered.


Why should a nation surrender if the can fight?


There would be no fight without us. Now add in the fact is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Stop the corruption and spend on defense. Elect a diplomat that could possibly negotiate an agreeable solution.
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In reply to Jeeper79 • 5:46p, 2/8/24
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Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Wait… You think both sides are innocent?


No, but deaths of innocent people is a byproduct of war.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 5:49p, 2/8/24
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ttu_85 said:
Around the 30 minute mark it get very interesting. Russia in NATO ???? It was brought up.

Note I will not pass judgement just point out particularly interesting segments


Never would have worked. Far too different world views.
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5:52p, 2/8/24
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Did I understand that correctly that Russia was seeking entry into NATO?
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In reply to txags92 • 5:53p, 2/8/24
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txags92 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Paying for motivated people who want to defend their homeland to kill invaders is fine by me.
Paying more and more and more for someone else to defend their border than our own isn't fine by me.

We can't continue a blank check supporting someone else's war between two corrupt nations that don't give a damn about the United States.
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5:58p, 2/8/24
I'm not a Tucker fan…but I respect the hell out of this.

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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 6:04p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Wait… You think both sides are innocent?


No, but deaths of innocent people is a byproduct of war.
When another country invades your own, nobody crossing the border to kill you is innocent.
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 6:09p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Teslag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.


It does, it all does. If only Putin didn't invade.


Or Ukraine surrendered.


Why should a nation surrender if the can fight?


There would be no fight without us. Now add in the fact is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Stop the corruption and spend on defense. Elect a diplomat that could possibly negotiate an agreeable solution.


This is BS. We didn't start sending serious arms to Ukraine until well into 2022, well after the Ukrainians had pushed back a lot of the initial Russian invasion.

Why should they have laid down? Should our founders have laid down for the British before France gave us aid?
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In reply to Jeeper79 • 6:15p, 2/8/24
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Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Wait… You think both sides are innocent?


No, but deaths of innocent people is a byproduct of war.
When another country invades your own, nobody crossing the border to kill you is innocent.


I never said otherwise.
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6:21p, 2/8/24
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Tucker gets a WSJ reporter released? That would be huge.
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 6:21p, 2/8/24
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
Jeeper79 said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
No Spin Ag said:
Teslag said:
And many will justify him attacking the Poles and blame the US for it. What a time to be alive.


Justifying the deaths of innocent people just doesn't make sense to me. But, yes, what a time to be alive.


Paying for innocent people to kill innocent people sucks too.
Wait… You think both sides are innocent?


No, but deaths of innocent people is a byproduct of war.
When another country invades your own, nobody crossing the border to kill you is innocent.


I never said otherwise.

But you did passively assign fault to the Ukrainians for dying since they had the audacity to defend their homeland.
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6:22p, 2/8/24
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Finally a reporter with some balls.
Cover your drink, Tucker!
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