So glad we have someone here to tell us how much more intelligent he is than all those dumbass rightwingers.

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No. Not like those because the local militias ( I prefer to call them Community watch organizations)would consist of people from a local community that have a common goal to make their specific area better for its populace . People that already live there and can respond right now in a crisis and can better prepare as a group to respond to the kinds of crisis a specific community might see.

I'm talking small level as in neighborhoods, Small towns, apartment complexes , etc. I am aware this could be seen by local first responders as someone else getting in the way but I am talking about either response to help or stabilize until the first responders get there and then only continue to help if the first responders need it , or perhaps if the group has previously coordinated with the local first responders they might actually call the group for help if they felt like they needed it. That sort of thing.

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You don't need a to start no militia to Ecomplish that man.

Plenty of ways to do that neighborhoods. Small towns. Multifamily comm n Ts etc.

Neighborhoods:
-HOA
Get involved. Get an actual email chain going and not the Nextdoor app. Get the folks on the board to monthly email their constable with the HOA citizens report.

-Small Towns
If there are so many threats to your livelihood in your small town and your govt won't do anything to protect you. Go to your county seat and ask for it.

Multifamily:

PM I have plenty of recommendations

Yeah, maybe you're right that perhaps there are plenty of ways . This is one of them. Why are you specifically opposed to this way?

CDUB98 said:

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So glad we have someone here to tell us how much more intelligent he is than all those dumbass rightwingers.

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I am a right winger. Just not a nut job

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oldord said:

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Just watch. When it hits the fan, you will be the first clamoring to be protected

Amazing how short sighted some folks are. Just intentionally oblivious.

Weak minded people…smh.

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How long have you been crying about things hitting the fan? Just bc you keyboard warrior it for 50 years doesn't make it happen gramps.

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Rich for someone who has a '79 in their handle.

Generally, the person accusing someone else of being a keyboard warrior is most likely the one who expresses their aggression entirely through a keyboard and have never ad their ass kicked. But you are a Katy/energy corridor doooosh that looks a his neighbor with antipathy along with everyone else. Notice that none of your friends really like you?

Thread was exploring the idea of setting up organizations in the traditional manner to protect communities from a perceived threat. IF you don't like the idea of serving and protecting your community, don't come to this thread. Simple.

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As important as it is on paper and in principle, as a practical matter the 2nd amendment doesn't have much useful value anymore.

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Judging from the attitudes and actions of the ruling elites on the left towards the 2A, I don't think they believe it is worthless now. They still act scared as **** of citizens with guns.

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Good grief, no they don't, have you forgotten Waco? Right in the middle of heavily-armed Texas the feds just annihilated that place and not a single 2nd amendment champion interfered. And that was Texas of 30 years ago. And the feds are endlessly more arrogant now. Guns are great for defending your home against burglars, but they're no threat to the government whatsoever now. And the reason is not about the amount of firepower, it's about intelligence and surveillance. In no way in this country could you ever get 3 people together with intentions to use guns against the government without it being squashed in the bud.

oldord said:

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WestHoustonAg79 said:

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oldord said:

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Just watch. When it hits the fan, you will be the first clamoring to be protected

Amazing how short sighted some folks are. Just intentionally oblivious.

Weak minded people…smh.

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How long have you been crying about things hitting the fan? Just bc you keyboard warrior it for 50 years doesn't make it happen gramps.

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Rich for someone who has a '79 in their handle.

Generally, the person accusing someone else of being a keyboard warrior is most likely the one who expresses their aggression entirely through a keyboard and have never ad their ass kicked. But you are a Katy/energy corridor doooosh that looks a his neighbor with antipathy along with everyone else. Notice that none of your friends really like you?

Thread was exploring the idea of setting up organizations in the traditional manner to protect communities from a perceived threat. IF you don't like the idea of serving and protecting your community, don't come to this thread. Simple.

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lol. And the gloves come off gramps. Calling me a ****** and needing my ass kicked? Very mature sir.

I do like the idea of serving and protecting my community. I just think the idea of an armed militia "loosely organized by the state" is not realistic. And I'll even go further and say I think it's a ridiculous idea that will never happen and would do more harm than good.

Just because I have that viewpoint does not mean I don't add value to or care about my community. I noted ways to get involved by systems already in place in a post above.

But I guess you're going to be a asshat about it since you don't have any response of substance outside of "omg ignorant" "Katy *****" etc. you came here with the aggression.

I'm sorry not everyone drinks the redneck kool aid like yourself and wastes too much mental capacity of SHTF IN CASE it FINALLY happens tomorrow.

No one disagrees it will happen at some point. But just because some of us don't focus our daily lives on it you don't get to call us ignorant.

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American Hardwood said:

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As important as it is on paper and in principle, as a practical matter the 2nd amendment doesn't have much useful value anymore.

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Judging from the attitudes and actions of the ruling elites on the left towards the 2A, I don't think they believe it is worthless now. They still act scared as **** of citizens with guns.

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Good grief, no they don't, have you forgotten Waco? Right in the middle of heavily-armed Texas the feds just annihilated that place and not a single 2nd amendment champion interfered. And that was Texas of 30 years ago. And the feds are endlessly more arrogant now. Guns are great for defending your home against burglars, but they're no threat to the government whatsoever now. And the reason is not about the amount of firepower, it's about intelligence and surveillance. In no way in this country could you ever get 3 people together with intentions to use guns against the government without it being squashed in the bud.

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Tea Party said:

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Founding fathers would be a lot further along in getting our country back on track than our sheep populace.

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As important as it is on paper and in principle, as a practical matter the 2nd amendment doesn't have much useful value anymore. The disparity of power between the government and the public in terms of intelligence/surveillance and military power is so exponentially huge that there is no way for the public to be a direct threat to government abuse.

But more than that, and closely related to what you said, modern life is utterly alien to that of 200 years ago. Strength of the individual and self-sufficiency and toughness are completely incompatible with the mindset of drive-thru food pickup, regular therapy and anti-depressants so people can "get through the day", and coming home from your air-conditioned office so you can "Netflix and chill".

Those are not the people that fight back against anything. "Honey, the neighbors say they're raising arms against the government, should we join in?" "Uh, what site is that on, can we do it through zoom?" "I think we actually need to leave the house and put on shoes for this." "Oh dang, well can I at last bring my DVD collection? And what will they be serving for lunch if we go?"

Yeah, good luck with that..

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This kind of shallow thinking is so funny, especially given our military's recent struggles in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. These were dirt poor third worlders that outlasted the strongest military on the planet. You have 10's of millions of well armed citizens with prior military experience that have significantly more skill with firearms than most in the military. The US military is not equipped or prepared to suppress an insurgency here.

There wouldn't be many (if any) large battles. Sabotage, bombings and assassinations would be daily occurrences. Snipers would be a terrible problem for an occupying force.

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it's about intelligence and surveillance. In no way in this country could you ever get 3 people together with intentions to use guns against the government without it being squashed in the bud.

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Please. You give way too much credit to FedGov.

I think a good start is introducing ourselves starting with our preferred pronouns. Mine are "They Them Theirs." I am a two-spirit person.

Lost in all of this is something we need to remember: The Posse Comitatus Act.

It's not fail safe, nor do progressives really care about laws anymore, but it is there and creates a hurdle to the gov't.

Anyone who is sane does not want a full blown civil war again, but it becomes increasingly clear each day that there is no bridging the divide between regular folks and the Marxist totalitarians in gov't.

Some kind of split has to eventually happen. The only question is how peaceful it will be.

WestHoustonAg79 said:

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oldord said:

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WestHoustonAg79 said:

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oldord said:

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Just watch. When it hits the fan, you will be the first clamoring to be protected

Amazing how short sighted some folks are. Just intentionally oblivious.

Weak minded people…smh.

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How long have you been crying about things hitting the fan? Just bc you keyboard warrior it for 50 years doesn't make it happen gramps.

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Rich for someone who has a '79 in their handle.

Generally, the person accusing someone else of being a keyboard warrior is most likely the one who expresses their aggression entirely through a keyboard and have never ad their ass kicked. But you are a Katy/energy corridor doooosh that looks a his neighbor with antipathy along with everyone else. Notice that none of your friends really like you?

Thread was exploring the idea of setting up organizations in the traditional manner to protect communities from a perceived threat. IF you don't like the idea of serving and protecting your community, don't come to this thread. Simple.

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lol. And the gloves come off gramps. Calling me a ****** and needing my ass kicked? Very mature sir.

I do like the idea of serving and protecting my community. I just think the idea of an armed militia "loosely organized by the state" is not realistic. And I'll even go further and say I think it's a ridiculous idea that will never happen and would do more harm than good.

Just because I have that viewpoint does not mean I don't add value to or care about my community. I noted ways to get involved by systems already in place in a post above.

But I guess you're going to be a asshat about it since you don't have any response of substance outside of "omg ignorant" "Katy *****" etc. you came here with the aggression.

I'm sorry not everyone drinks the redneck kool aid like yourself and wastes too much mental capacity of SHTF IN CASE it FINALLY happens tomorrow.

No one disagrees it will happen at some point. But just because some of us don't focus our daily lives on it you don't get to call us ignorant.

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Nice conjecture, keyboard warrior. You came after me and like a good CM you are working to be the aggrieved party.
Everything you say is bull****

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it's about intelligence and surveillance. In no way in this country could you ever get 3 people together with intentions to use guns against the government without it being squashed in the bud.

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Please. You give way too much credit to FedGov.

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Well fine, go raise some citizen divisions then and have at it. I'll follow how it goes on the news.

There sure are a lot of modern day Tories and Loyalists on this thread. People need to read their history to understand the importance of militias. From the large scale all the way down to the cul-de-sac neighborhood watch.

We have several state and local ones operating in Texas above board, as well as national ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_militia_organizations_in_the_United_States
(Per the wiki page)
National:

• The Constitutional Sheriffs
• Oath Keepers
• Not ******* Around Coalition (Black Nationalists, so probably not what OP is looking for)
• Three Percenters
• Proud Boys
• Boogaloo movement

State:
Texas State Militia (looks like it's the various armed guard for the state under the auspices of the Texas Adj. Gen.)
This Is Texas Freedom Force
https://www.txfreedomforce.org/

Local:
Alamo Militia (San Antonio)
Golden Triangle Militia (Groves, Orange)
Texas Light Foot Militia (Tyler - inactive per later section)
Texas State Militia (Austin, Big Spring, Houston)

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Tea Party said:

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Founding fathers would be a lot further along in getting our country back on track than our sheep populace.

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As important as it is on paper and in principle, as a practical matter the 2nd amendment doesn't have much useful value anymore. The disparity of power between the government and the public in terms of intelligence/surveillance and military power is so exponentially huge that there is no way for the public to be a direct threat to government abuse.

But more than that, and closely related to what you said, modern life is utterly alien to that of 200 years ago. Strength of the individual and self-sufficiency and toughness are completely incompatible with the mindset of drive-thru food pickup, regular therapy and anti-depressants so people can "get through the day", and coming home from your air-conditioned office so you can "Netflix and chill".

Those are not the people that fight back against anything. "Honey, the neighbors say they're raising arms against the government, should we join in?" "Uh, what site is that on, can we do it through zoom?" "I think we actually need to leave the house and put on shoes for this." "Oh dang, well can I at last bring my DVD collection? And what will they be serving for lunch if we go?"

Yeah, good luck with that..

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For that matter, one could argue that everything but the 16th, as a practical matter, doesn't have much useful value anymore either.

I bet that those who will do what is necessary is a much bigger number than you give credit for (though I agree with your sentiment), but it would take a much larger issue to get them moving. And those that do are generally demonized by folks like you and the left as being those pesky radical right wing neocon militia types anyway.

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The constitution makes them legal. Freedom of association and the right to assemble. What they are allowed to do is a bit limited.

For what it is worth, if you are the age for military service, you are sort of by default militia. Whether you chose to self organize at need or let the state do it got you is sort of up to you or the state.

I think where people get sideways is the idea that people that form organized militias in recent decades have often done so around a set of politics that is considered rather extreme outliers on the far left or far right, or based around some ideology that is niche, and some had a tendency to engage in conduct that ran afoul of the law, which drew negative attention to all of them as a category. Many of them have been anti-authoritarian to include the elected government and activities that go beyond political rhetoric and activism on that vein get close scrutiny from the authorities.

But, the definition of militia is historically much more expansive than that, and in theory there is no harm done in organizing a group as a militia providing it operates consistent with the laws and following the constitutional rights and legal constraints on its behaviors.

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Not sort of, by legislation you actually are.

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10 U.S. Code 246 - Militia: composition and classes
U.S. Code

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are
(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

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oldord said:

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WestHoustonAg79 said:

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oldord said:

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WestHoustonAg79 said:

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oldord said:

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Just watch. When it hits the fan, you will be the first clamoring to be protected

Amazing how short sighted some folks are. Just intentionally oblivious.

Weak minded people…smh.

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How long have you been crying about things hitting the fan? Just bc you keyboard warrior it for 50 years doesn't make it happen gramps.

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Rich for someone who has a '79 in their handle.

Generally, the person accusing someone else of being a keyboard warrior is most likely the one who expresses their aggression entirely through a keyboard and have never ad their ass kicked. But you are a Katy/energy corridor doooosh that looks a his neighbor with antipathy along with everyone else. Notice that none of your friends really like you?

Thread was exploring the idea of setting up organizations in the traditional manner to protect communities from a perceived threat. IF you don't like the idea of serving and protecting your community, don't come to this thread. Simple.

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lol. And the gloves come off gramps. Calling me a ****** and needing my ass kicked? Very mature sir.

I do like the idea of serving and protecting my community. I just think the idea of an armed militia "loosely organized by the state" is not realistic. And I'll even go further and say I think it's a ridiculous idea that will never happen and would do more harm than good.

Just because I have that viewpoint does not mean I don't add value to or care about my community. I noted ways to get involved by systems already in place in a post above.

But I guess you're going to be a asshat about it since you don't have any response of substance outside of "omg ignorant" "Katy *****" etc. you came here with the aggression.

I'm sorry not everyone drinks the redneck kool aid like yourself and wastes too much mental capacity of SHTF IN CASE it FINALLY happens tomorrow.

No one disagrees it will happen at some point. But just because some of us don't focus our daily lives on it you don't get to call us ignorant.

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Nice conjecture, keyboard warrior. You came after me and like a good CM you are working to be the aggrieved party.
Everything you say is bull****

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Because you continue to insult me with name calling bc I don't agree with your dumbass idea of an armed militia?

FFS give me a break

Tell me again why you think an armed militia is a dumbass idea?

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oh boy you just lit up on the Biden Gestapo radar.....

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We get on their radar for shopping at a sporting goods store or ordering a Bible online.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/crime/article/southwest-freeway-road-rage-shooting-18639197.php

Twice deported El Salvadoran murder a a teen and shoots two teen girls in Houston.

This is the reason people are talking about militia's. The police, and certainly not the Feds can't help us. Seems we are all on our own.

Lock and load seems to be the only advice or option at this point. I pray that you all shoot straight. It's coming to a hood near you.