Patriarch of Jerusalem Pizzaballa: IDF sniper kills two in Catholic Church

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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious.


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.
He has offered himself as a hostage in exchange for the release of Jewish refugees. I have zero clue why you're turning this into an attack on Cdl Pizzaballa.
He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.


lol what
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Kvetch said:

gbaby23 said:

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And you haven't given one reason why he should. For all I know, he diddles kids.
This is actually an anti-Catholic trope.


Weird how you get the point of the statement without actually getting the point.

And by the way, while the rate of occurrence is no higher than the general population, the cover up is not at all a trope.
I think we should be able to agree that covering up pedophilia should be irrelevant to the conversation when Israel is also known for harboring pedophiles.


Yeah, the point wasn't that priests are pedophiles. The point was that we have no reason to blindly believe that this guy has a perfect assessment of the situation purely because he has a political title in a church.
Your point was clear. You attempted to dismiss the situation by insinuating that Catholics and their leadership are not trustworthy due to pedophilia. No different than someone trying to dismiss something a jew in America with Israeli citizenship says due to dual loyalty.
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Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


Claiming a Catholic Cardinal is an anti-Semite because it helps your argument and because you have a weird fetish for Israel is inappropriate for a Catholic, especially publicly.
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Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

Velvet Jones said:

ttu_85 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

aTmAg said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You wouldn't have made this post if a Hamas sniper killed two Catholics.

Think about that for a little bit.

Your true colors are clearly showing bud.
Over 7000 children murdered by the antichrist regime of Israel since October. You're showing your true colors bud.
These numbers come from Hamas and then repeated by other antisemites (such as yourself) as "fact" despite Hamas being caught in lie after lie.

Israel isn't "murdering" children. Hamas is by forcing children to be in and near military targets. Not even the Nazis did that. Think about that for a second: Hamas is worse than the Nazis (who they idolize, BTW). And here you are supporting them.
You Zionists are always caught up in dialectics. Someone pointing out that murdering children is bad and all of a sudden you support a terrorize group. I'd say most of you are some form of evangelical war boomer who back the blood moon prophecy of John Hagee. Some of the dumbest people around.

Israel is murdering children and killing a record amount of journalists. This is being reported worldwide and you can see it in 4K all over twitter. Christian churches (unlike the boomer evangelicals) have confirmed the atrocities and condemned Israel.
Your screen name is interesting . Sounds a lot like Klaus Barbie. Your garbage sounds like something this clown would have said. I bet you came here to this site just promote this kind of trash.

Oh and provide a link backing up your last sentence. I cant wait to see what "churches" are claiming this. I'm sure it will be no mystery. Lordy some crazy people showing up on this thread.

Edit: Line through. There is an interesting pattern within this thread. Some sort of group of far-right types with a highly anti-Semitic distorted take on Catholicism. There are definitely patterns to their posting. Looks to be around 7 or so of them.
Seven seems about right. They keep getting banned and they keep coming back.

They have some super-secret Discord server where they get their stories straight off the presses from storm front and other similar sources then come over here to spread their poison. Several of them have been banned for outright Holocaust denial, and their twisted version of Catholicism mixed with theocratic anti-Jewish facism has been well documented here.


If only people could be banned for "Catholic women in church killed by IDF" denial
What about you? Do you agree that Jews are among the most accomplished and successful group of people in the world? Both in America and elsewhere?


Ashkenazi Jews? Yes. May I ask why you're turning this thread on the IDF killing of two Catholic women into a Jewish football spike?
Jews in general. Not just Ashkenazi Jews. That if there are Jews in your neighborhood, then it's likely they are more prosperous than you.

And to answer your question: You know why.


I have no clue why. The fact that you're using the thread on which 2 Catholic women were murdered by the IDF to simultaneously grandstand about their success while painting them as the victim in the situation.
Let me guess.. You think Israel bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people too? That the concrete and pipe given to Gaza was used for infrastructure and water also?


Do you have a reason for me to mistrust Cdl Pizzaballa?


Do you have a reason for me to trust the veracity of his claims without independent verification? If this was a mistake by the IDF, they tend to admit to their mistakes.


Do you have a reason for me to trust the IDF over a Catholic Cardinal? One who is extremely invested in the situation, and has offered himself to Hamas as a hostage in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages?


So how did the cardinal verify that it was an IDF sniper? If it was the IDF, how are we to know if it was an intentional operation based on intel about that church or if it was a mistake?

If innocents were killed, either by accident or purposefully, that's horrible. Everyone agrees. But, I hate to break it to you, horrible things happen in war. This wasn't just a random day in the neighborhood where Jews are out there sniping Catholic women, which is what you're trying to paint the situation as.

You're pulling the ol' main stream media tactic of screaming the "news" out as quickly as possible without any independent verification or scrutiny of the accusation. And if you are wrong, you won't be back here publishing your retraction.

Because you have a narrative. Which is the whole point here. And we all know what it is.


This seems to be absolutely a random day where Jews were out sniping Catholics. There is one Catholic Church in all of Gaza, a woman was shot. Another woman (her daughter) ran to help her and was shot as well. How could this be an accident?

If this isn't the case, I will sure as hell issue a retraction. As will the Pope who spoke about it during his Sunday address. You will notice the IDF sure as hell isn't saying "it wasn't us".



How can it be an accident? Because it's a war and you don't know what intel the IDF had or whether they accidentally targeted the wrong people. Nobody is saying that they accidentally pulled the trigger. The point is mistakes happen in war, even on the good side of the fight.

But again, you have an agenda and it's clear as day.


"We have intel a 58 old women and her 83 year old mother are Hamas Assets, dispatch with extreme prejudice"

Makes a lot of sense.


Yeah, it would be impossible for women and children to aid Hamas. Unthinkable!


Just admit you're pushing a narrative without care for the truth. If the IDF comes out and admits they made a mistake, then we can agree it was a tragedy and those responsible should be held to account. And it still won't mean that the IDF is intentionally and systematically targeting Christians, like you're purporting.


Ah I see, so when Hamas kills Israeli children, they could have been secretly working with the IDF?


No. Because Israel and Hamas are different. One side puts babies in ovens and rapes women to death. The other painstakingly warns civilians to move before they engage because the terrorists hide behind them.

Your moral equivalence here is absolutely pathetic.
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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious.


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.
He has offered himself as a hostage in exchange for the release of Jewish refugees. I have zero clue why you're turning this into an attack on Cdl Pizzaballa.
He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.


How do you get expelled by Hamas when you don't live in their territory? Where do you think the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem is based? There are several context clues that may give you a hint
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Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
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Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

Velvet Jones said:

ttu_85 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

aTmAg said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You wouldn't have made this post if a Hamas sniper killed two Catholics.

Think about that for a little bit.

Your true colors are clearly showing bud.
Over 7000 children murdered by the antichrist regime of Israel since October. You're showing your true colors bud.
These numbers come from Hamas and then repeated by other antisemites (such as yourself) as "fact" despite Hamas being caught in lie after lie.

Israel isn't "murdering" children. Hamas is by forcing children to be in and near military targets. Not even the Nazis did that. Think about that for a second: Hamas is worse than the Nazis (who they idolize, BTW). And here you are supporting them.
You Zionists are always caught up in dialectics. Someone pointing out that murdering children is bad and all of a sudden you support a terrorize group. I'd say most of you are some form of evangelical war boomer who back the blood moon prophecy of John Hagee. Some of the dumbest people around.

Israel is murdering children and killing a record amount of journalists. This is being reported worldwide and you can see it in 4K all over twitter. Christian churches (unlike the boomer evangelicals) have confirmed the atrocities and condemned Israel.
Your screen name is interesting . Sounds a lot like Klaus Barbie. Your garbage sounds like something this clown would have said. I bet you came here to this site just promote this kind of trash.

Oh and provide a link backing up your last sentence. I cant wait to see what "churches" are claiming this. I'm sure it will be no mystery. Lordy some crazy people showing up on this thread.

Edit: Line through. There is an interesting pattern within this thread. Some sort of group of far-right types with a highly anti-Semitic distorted take on Catholicism. There are definitely patterns to their posting. Looks to be around 7 or so of them.
Seven seems about right. They keep getting banned and they keep coming back.

They have some super-secret Discord server where they get their stories straight off the presses from storm front and other similar sources then come over here to spread their poison. Several of them have been banned for outright Holocaust denial, and their twisted version of Catholicism mixed with theocratic anti-Jewish facism has been well documented here.


If only people could be banned for "Catholic women in church killed by IDF" denial
What about you? Do you agree that Jews are among the most accomplished and successful group of people in the world? Both in America and elsewhere?


Ashkenazi Jews? Yes. May I ask why you're turning this thread on the IDF killing of two Catholic women into a Jewish football spike?
Jews in general. Not just Ashkenazi Jews. That if there are Jews in your neighborhood, then it's likely they are more prosperous than you.

And to answer your question: You know why.


I have no clue why. The fact that you're using the thread on which 2 Catholic women were murdered by the IDF to simultaneously grandstand about their success while painting them as the victim in the situation.
Let me guess.. You think Israel bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people too? That the concrete and pipe given to Gaza was used for infrastructure and water also?


Do you have a reason for me to mistrust Cdl Pizzaballa?


Do you have a reason for me to trust the veracity of his claims without independent verification? If this was a mistake by the IDF, they tend to admit to their mistakes.


Do you have a reason for me to trust the IDF over a Catholic Cardinal? One who is extremely invested in the situation, and has offered himself to Hamas as a hostage in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages?


So how did the cardinal verify that it was an IDF sniper? If it was the IDF, how are we to know if it was an intentional operation based on intel about that church or if it was a mistake?

If innocents were killed, either by accident or purposefully, that's horrible. Everyone agrees. But, I hate to break it to you, horrible things happen in war. This wasn't just a random day in the neighborhood where Jews are out there sniping Catholic women, which is what you're trying to paint the situation as.

You're pulling the ol' main stream media tactic of screaming the "news" out as quickly as possible without any independent verification or scrutiny of the accusation. And if you are wrong, you won't be back here publishing your retraction.

Because you have a narrative. Which is the whole point here. And we all know what it is.


This seems to be absolutely a random day where Jews were out sniping Catholics. There is one Catholic Church in all of Gaza, a woman was shot. Another woman (her daughter) ran to help her and was shot as well. How could this be an accident?

If this isn't the case, I will sure as hell issue a retraction. As will the Pope who spoke about it during his Sunday address. You will notice the IDF sure as hell isn't saying "it wasn't us".



How can it be an accident? Because it's a war and you don't know what intel the IDF had or whether they accidentally targeted the wrong people. Nobody is saying that they accidentally pulled the trigger. The point is mistakes happen in war, even on the good side of the fight.

But again, you have an agenda and it's clear as day.


"We have intel a 58 old women and her 83 year old mother are Hamas Assets, dispatch with extreme prejudice"

Makes a lot of sense.


Yeah, it would be impossible for women and children to aid Hamas. Unthinkable!


Just admit you're pushing a narrative without care for the truth. If the IDF comes out and admits they made a mistake, then we can agree it was a tragedy and those responsible should be held to account. And it still won't mean that the IDF is intentionally and systematically targeting Christians, like you're purporting.


Ah I see, so when Hamas kills Israeli children, they could have been secretly working with the IDF?


No. Because Israel and Hamas are different. One side puts babies in ovens and rapes women to death. The other painstakingly warns civilians to move before they engage because the terrorists hide behind them.

Your moral equivalence here is absolutely pathetic.


You just said sometimes women and children need to be targeted because they're aiding Hamas.
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gbaby23 said:

Kvetch said:

gbaby23 said:

Kvetch said:

gbaby23 said:

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And you haven't given one reason why he should. For all I know, he diddles kids.
This is actually an anti-Catholic trope.


Weird how you get the point of the statement without actually getting the point.

And by the way, while the rate of occurrence is no higher than the general population, the cover up is not at all a trope.
I think we should be able to agree that covering up pedophilia should be irrelevant to the conversation when Israel is also known for harboring pedophiles.


Yeah, the point wasn't that priests are pedophiles. The point was that we have no reason to blindly believe that this guy has a perfect assessment of the situation purely because he has a political title in a church.
Your point was clear. You attempted to dismiss the situation by insinuating that Catholics and their leadership are not trustworthy due to pedophilia. No different than someone trying to dismiss something a jew in America with Israeli citizenship says due to dual loyalty.


You mean turnabout is not fair play with posters that buy into every Jewish trope in the book? Geez, you're so close to actually understanding the post. Halfway there.
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Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

Kvetch said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

Velvet Jones said:

ttu_85 said:

Klaus Schwab said:

aTmAg said:

Klaus Schwab said:

Hungry Ojos said:

You wouldn't have made this post if a Hamas sniper killed two Catholics.

Think about that for a little bit.

Your true colors are clearly showing bud.
Over 7000 children murdered by the antichrist regime of Israel since October. You're showing your true colors bud.
These numbers come from Hamas and then repeated by other antisemites (such as yourself) as "fact" despite Hamas being caught in lie after lie.

Israel isn't "murdering" children. Hamas is by forcing children to be in and near military targets. Not even the Nazis did that. Think about that for a second: Hamas is worse than the Nazis (who they idolize, BTW). And here you are supporting them.
You Zionists are always caught up in dialectics. Someone pointing out that murdering children is bad and all of a sudden you support a terrorize group. I'd say most of you are some form of evangelical war boomer who back the blood moon prophecy of John Hagee. Some of the dumbest people around.

Israel is murdering children and killing a record amount of journalists. This is being reported worldwide and you can see it in 4K all over twitter. Christian churches (unlike the boomer evangelicals) have confirmed the atrocities and condemned Israel.
Your screen name is interesting . Sounds a lot like Klaus Barbie. Your garbage sounds like something this clown would have said. I bet you came here to this site just promote this kind of trash.

Oh and provide a link backing up your last sentence. I cant wait to see what "churches" are claiming this. I'm sure it will be no mystery. Lordy some crazy people showing up on this thread.

Edit: Line through. There is an interesting pattern within this thread. Some sort of group of far-right types with a highly anti-Semitic distorted take on Catholicism. There are definitely patterns to their posting. Looks to be around 7 or so of them.
Seven seems about right. They keep getting banned and they keep coming back.

They have some super-secret Discord server where they get their stories straight off the presses from storm front and other similar sources then come over here to spread their poison. Several of them have been banned for outright Holocaust denial, and their twisted version of Catholicism mixed with theocratic anti-Jewish facism has been well documented here.


If only people could be banned for "Catholic women in church killed by IDF" denial
What about you? Do you agree that Jews are among the most accomplished and successful group of people in the world? Both in America and elsewhere?


Ashkenazi Jews? Yes. May I ask why you're turning this thread on the IDF killing of two Catholic women into a Jewish football spike?
Jews in general. Not just Ashkenazi Jews. That if there are Jews in your neighborhood, then it's likely they are more prosperous than you.

And to answer your question: You know why.


I have no clue why. The fact that you're using the thread on which 2 Catholic women were murdered by the IDF to simultaneously grandstand about their success while painting them as the victim in the situation.
Let me guess.. You think Israel bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people too? That the concrete and pipe given to Gaza was used for infrastructure and water also?


Do you have a reason for me to mistrust Cdl Pizzaballa?


Do you have a reason for me to trust the veracity of his claims without independent verification? If this was a mistake by the IDF, they tend to admit to their mistakes.


Do you have a reason for me to trust the IDF over a Catholic Cardinal? One who is extremely invested in the situation, and has offered himself to Hamas as a hostage in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages?


So how did the cardinal verify that it was an IDF sniper? If it was the IDF, how are we to know if it was an intentional operation based on intel about that church or if it was a mistake?

If innocents were killed, either by accident or purposefully, that's horrible. Everyone agrees. But, I hate to break it to you, horrible things happen in war. This wasn't just a random day in the neighborhood where Jews are out there sniping Catholic women, which is what you're trying to paint the situation as.

You're pulling the ol' main stream media tactic of screaming the "news" out as quickly as possible without any independent verification or scrutiny of the accusation. And if you are wrong, you won't be back here publishing your retraction.

Because you have a narrative. Which is the whole point here. And we all know what it is.


This seems to be absolutely a random day where Jews were out sniping Catholics. There is one Catholic Church in all of Gaza, a woman was shot. Another woman (her daughter) ran to help her and was shot as well. How could this be an accident?

If this isn't the case, I will sure as hell issue a retraction. As will the Pope who spoke about it during his Sunday address. You will notice the IDF sure as hell isn't saying "it wasn't us".



How can it be an accident? Because it's a war and you don't know what intel the IDF had or whether they accidentally targeted the wrong people. Nobody is saying that they accidentally pulled the trigger. The point is mistakes happen in war, even on the good side of the fight.

But again, you have an agenda and it's clear as day.


"We have intel a 58 old women and her 83 year old mother are Hamas Assets, dispatch with extreme prejudice"

Makes a lot of sense.


Yeah, it would be impossible for women and children to aid Hamas. Unthinkable!


Just admit you're pushing a narrative without care for the truth. If the IDF comes out and admits they made a mistake, then we can agree it was a tragedy and those responsible should be held to account. And it still won't mean that the IDF is intentionally and systematically targeting Christians, like you're purporting.


Ah I see, so when Hamas kills Israeli children, they could have been secretly working with the IDF?


No. Because Israel and Hamas are different. One side puts babies in ovens and rapes women to death. The other painstakingly warns civilians to move before they engage because the terrorists hide behind them.

Your moral equivalence here is absolutely pathetic.


You just said sometimes women and children need to be targeted because they're aiding Hamas.


Is that shocking? Engage in terrorism, get treated like a terrorist. The "children" are not toddlers.
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RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?
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You wouldn't have made this post if a Hamas sniper killed two Catholics.

Think about that for a little bit.

Your true colors are clearly showing bud.
Over 7000 children murdered by the antichrist regime of Israel since October. You're showing your true colors bud.
These numbers come from Hamas and then repeated by other antisemites (such as yourself) as "fact" despite Hamas being caught in lie after lie.

Israel isn't "murdering" children. Hamas is by forcing children to be in and near military targets. Not even the Nazis did that. Think about that for a second: Hamas is worse than the Nazis (who they idolize, BTW). And here you are supporting them.
You Zionists are always caught up in dialectics. Someone pointing out that murdering children is bad and all of a sudden you support a terrorize group. I'd say most of you are some form of evangelical war boomer who back the blood moon prophecy of John Hagee. Some of the dumbest people around.

Israel is murdering children and killing a record amount of journalists. This is being reported worldwide and you can see it in 4K all over twitter. Christian churches (unlike the boomer evangelicals) have confirmed the atrocities and condemned Israel.
Your screen name is interesting . Sounds a lot like Klaus Barbie. Your garbage sounds like something this clown would have said. I bet you came here to this site just promote this kind of trash.

Oh and provide a link backing up your last sentence. I cant wait to see what "churches" are claiming this. I'm sure it will be no mystery. Lordy some crazy people showing up on this thread.

Edit: Line through. There is an interesting pattern within this thread. Some sort of group of far-right types with a highly anti-Semitic distorted take on Catholicism. There are definitely patterns to their posting. Looks to be around 7 or so of them.
Seven seems about right. They keep getting banned and they keep coming back.

They have some super-secret Discord server where they get their stories straight off the presses from storm front and other similar sources then come over here to spread their poison. Several of them have been banned for outright Holocaust denial, and their twisted version of Catholicism mixed with theocratic anti-Jewish facism has been well documented here.


If only people could be banned for "Catholic women in church killed by IDF" denial
What about you? Do you agree that Jews are among the most accomplished and successful group of people in the world? Both in America and elsewhere?


Ashkenazi Jews? Yes. May I ask why you're turning this thread on the IDF killing of two Catholic women into a Jewish football spike?
Jews in general. Not just Ashkenazi Jews. That if there are Jews in your neighborhood, then it's likely they are more prosperous than you.

And to answer your question: You know why.


I have no clue why. The fact that you're using the thread on which 2 Catholic women were murdered by the IDF to simultaneously grandstand about their success while painting them as the victim in the situation.
Let me guess.. You think Israel bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people too? That the concrete and pipe given to Gaza was used for infrastructure and water also?


Do you have a reason for me to mistrust Cdl Pizzaballa?


Do you have a reason for me to trust the veracity of his claims without independent verification? If this was a mistake by the IDF, they tend to admit to their mistakes.


Do you have a reason for me to trust the IDF over a Catholic Cardinal? One who is extremely invested in the situation, and has offered himself to Hamas as a hostage in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages?


So how did the cardinal verify that it was an IDF sniper? If it was the IDF, how are we to know if it was an intentional operation based on intel about that church or if it was a mistake?

If innocents were killed, either by accident or purposefully, that's horrible. Everyone agrees. But, I hate to break it to you, horrible things happen in war. This wasn't just a random day in the neighborhood where Jews are out there sniping Catholic women, which is what you're trying to paint the situation as.

You're pulling the ol' main stream media tactic of screaming the "news" out as quickly as possible without any independent verification or scrutiny of the accusation. And if you are wrong, you won't be back here publishing your retraction.

Because you have a narrative. Which is the whole point here. And we all know what it is.


This seems to be absolutely a random day where Jews were out sniping Catholics. There is one Catholic Church in all of Gaza, a woman was shot. Another woman (her daughter) ran to help her and was shot as well. How could this be an accident?

If this isn't the case, I will sure as hell issue a retraction. As will the Pope who spoke about it during his Sunday address. You will notice the IDF sure as hell isn't saying "it wasn't us".



How can it be an accident? Because it's a war and you don't know what intel the IDF had or whether they accidentally targeted the wrong people. Nobody is saying that they accidentally pulled the trigger. The point is mistakes happen in war, even on the good side of the fight.

But again, you have an agenda and it's clear as day.


"We have intel a 58 old women and her 83 year old mother are Hamas Assets, dispatch with extreme prejudice"

Makes a lot of sense.


Yeah, it would be impossible for women and children to aid Hamas. Unthinkable!


Just admit you're pushing a narrative without care for the truth. If the IDF comes out and admits they made a mistake, then we can agree it was a tragedy and those responsible should be held to account. And it still won't mean that the IDF is intentionally and systematically targeting Christians, like you're purporting.


Ah I see, so when Hamas kills Israeli children, they could have been secretly working with the IDF?


No. Because Israel and Hamas are different. One side puts babies in ovens and rapes women to death. The other painstakingly warns civilians to move before they engage because the terrorists hide behind them.

Your moral equivalence here is absolutely pathetic.


You just said sometimes women and children need to be targeted because they're aiding Hamas.


Is that shocking? Engage in terrorism, get treated like a terrorist. The "children" are not toddlers.


Well that's a relief.
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So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
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The Israeli soldiers will be punished. The Hamas terrorists that raped and tortured women and children were celebrated. That's the difference.

I wish the violence would stop just like you. I lament the loss of innocent Palestinian women and children even though Hamas does not. But I refuse to condemn the IDF for doing what I would do as well - prosecute a war against an enemy that wants to eradicate the Israelis as a people, and have done everything possible to do just that.

I am disgusted by the level of antisemitism in our own country and in Europe. They should certainly know better, and obviously did not learn their lesson in WWII.


It's not worth your time to argue with this guy. He's not seeking truth, just validation for his anti-Semitic narrative. Rational people know that the IDF is not intentionally and systematically targeting innocents Christians. Hell, they aren't even doing that to "innocent" Palestinians, who very well could be considered their enemies.

If it's true that a mistake was made and innocents were killed, that's a tragedy. It's not an indictment of the mission of the IDF or Israel's existential fight for survival. This guy just gets hot and bothered anytime some potentially bad news comes out against the IDF, regardless of the fact that mistakes have happened in every single war in human history.
All true and you can easily see some of those that share the antisemitism. Its the usual far, far right suspects. its like a bat signal with this crowd.

I'm pretty far to the right myself on mostly eco issues but this group is an embarrassment.


If it's antisemitic to be outraged over the slaughter of innocent Christians in the Holy Land, then call me Uncle Adolf.
Speak of the Devil. I bet you were hoping this would be true with the IDF responsible. We all have posting histories and this sort of thing is far from your first rodeo. Do really think for one minute Israel would deliberately target Christians?

Its a friggin war zone. And if this is true it is a tragic mistake in the fog of war. Spare me your false outrage.


Yes, I believe that Israel would purposefully target Christians. Christians are attacked constantly in Israel, but in this case they are GAZANS and therefore have to be killed.

The Israeli's have shown time and time again that their MO is to shoot first and ask questions later. They did it when they attacked the USS Liberty, they did it when they shot three of their own hostages recently, and if the good Cardinal Pizzaballa can be believed, they did it again this morning and shot two Catholic women. This, coupled with their reliance on unguided bombs, lead me to believe they don't really care who they kill.

In case you have a short memory, they also killed 17 people at an Orthodox Church in an air strike in late October.

They don't even "constantly attack" the Muslim Arabs in Israel, but the Israeli government is doing it to Christians?

You're quite amusing.
If Jews hate Christian's and Muslims it is hard to explain
More Muslims Joining the Israeli Army
  • Half request to serve in combat units, and Israel has opened a second unit to accommodate these Muslims. Does that sound like an apartheid state?
Soldiers under threat: Christian IDF recruits subject to attack
  • However, their willingness to enlist in the army and to contribute to the security of the country can exact from them a heavy price. Christian soldiers sometimes find themselves threatened by their Muslim neighbors and are the recipients of violent attacks



Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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What a bizarre thread. I'm surprised staff hasn't stopped it
I've wondered that too, so much so I wonder its its being used as some sort of academic study. This thread has produced some ideologically extremest views I've rarely seen in recent times. Its like late 19th or early 20th C antisemitic dogma that was totally discredited right after WWII.

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You wouldn't have made this post if a Hamas sniper killed two Catholics.

Think about that for a little bit.

Your true colors are clearly showing bud.
Over 7000 children murdered by the antichrist regime of Israel since October. You're showing your true colors bud.
These numbers come from Hamas and then repeated by other antisemites (such as yourself) as "fact" despite Hamas being caught in lie after lie.

Israel isn't "murdering" children. Hamas is by forcing children to be in and near military targets. Not even the Nazis did that. Think about that for a second: Hamas is worse than the Nazis (who they idolize, BTW). And here you are supporting them.
You Zionists are always caught up in dialectics. Someone pointing out that murdering children is bad and all of a sudden you support a terrorize group. I'd say most of you are some form of evangelical war boomer who back the blood moon prophecy of John Hagee. Some of the dumbest people around.

Israel is murdering children and killing a record amount of journalists. This is being reported worldwide and you can see it in 4K all over twitter. Christian churches (unlike the boomer evangelicals) have confirmed the atrocities and condemned Israel.
Your screen name is interesting . Sounds a lot like Klaus Barbie. Your garbage sounds like something this clown would have said. I bet you came here to this site just promote this kind of trash.

Oh and provide a link backing up your last sentence. I cant wait to see what "churches" are claiming this. I'm sure it will be no mystery. Lordy some crazy people showing up on this thread.

Edit: Line through. There is an interesting pattern within this thread. Some sort of group of far-right types with a highly anti-Semitic distorted take on Catholicism. There are definitely patterns to their posting. Looks to be around 7 or so of them.
Seven seems about right. They keep getting banned and they keep coming back.

They have some super-secret Discord server where they get their stories straight off the presses from storm front and other similar sources then come over here to spread their poison. Several of them have been banned for outright Holocaust denial, and their twisted version of Catholicism mixed with theocratic anti-Jewish facism has been well documented here.


If only people could be banned for "Catholic women in church killed by IDF" denial
What about you? Do you agree that Jews are among the most accomplished and successful group of people in the world? Both in America and elsewhere?


Ashkenazi Jews? Yes. May I ask why you're turning this thread on the IDF killing of two Catholic women into a Jewish football spike?
Jews in general. Not just Ashkenazi Jews. That if there are Jews in your neighborhood, then it's likely they are more prosperous than you.

And to answer your question: You know why.


I have no clue why. The fact that you're using the thread on which 2 Catholic women were murdered by the IDF to simultaneously grandstand about their success while painting them as the victim in the situation.
Let me guess.. You think Israel bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people too? That the concrete and pipe given to Gaza was used for infrastructure and water also?


Do you have a reason for me to mistrust Cdl Pizzaballa?


Do you have a reason for me to trust the veracity of his claims without independent verification? If this was a mistake by the IDF, they tend to admit to their mistakes.


Do you have a reason for me to trust the IDF over a Catholic Cardinal? One who is extremely invested in the situation, and has offered himself to Hamas as a hostage in exchange for the release of the Israeli hostages?


So how did the cardinal verify that it was an IDF sniper? If it was the IDF, how are we to know if it was an intentional operation based on intel about that church or if it was a mistake?

If innocents were killed, either by accident or purposefully, that's horrible. Everyone agrees. But, I hate to break it to you, horrible things happen in war. This wasn't just a random day in the neighborhood where Jews are out there sniping Catholic women, which is what you're trying to paint the situation as.

You're pulling the ol' main stream media tactic of screaming the "news" out as quickly as possible without any independent verification or scrutiny of the accusation. And if you are wrong, you won't be back here publishing your retraction.

Because you have a narrative. Which is the whole point here. And we all know what it is.


This seems to be absolutely a random day where Jews were out sniping Catholics. There is one Catholic Church in all of Gaza, a woman was shot. Another woman (her daughter) ran to help her and was shot as well. How could this be an accident?

If this isn't the case, I will sure as hell issue a retraction. As will the Pope who spoke about it during his Sunday address. You will notice the IDF sure as hell isn't saying "it wasn't us".



How can it be an accident? Because it's a war and you don't know what intel the IDF had or whether they accidentally targeted the wrong people. Nobody is saying that they accidentally pulled the trigger. The point is mistakes happen in war, even on the good side of the fight.

But again, you have an agenda and it's clear as day.


"We have intel a 58 old women and her 83 year old mother are Hamas Assets, dispatch with extreme prejudice"

Makes a lot of sense.


Yeah, it would be impossible for women and children to aid Hamas. Unthinkable!


Just admit you're pushing a narrative without care for the truth. If the IDF comes out and admits they made a mistake, then we can agree it was a tragedy and those responsible should be held to account. And it still won't mean that the IDF is intentionally and systematically targeting Christians, like you're purporting.


Ah I see, so when Hamas kills Israeli children, they could have been secretly working with the IDF?


No. Because Israel and Hamas are different. One side puts babies in ovens and rapes women to death. The other painstakingly warns civilians to move before they engage because the terrorists hide behind them.

Your moral equivalence here is absolutely pathetic.


You just said sometimes women and children need to be targeted because they're aiding Hamas.


Is that shocking? Engage in terrorism, get treated like a terrorist. The "children" are not toddlers.


Well that's a relief.


Yeah, I'm done with this thread. Should've taken my own advice and not engaged. Never a point in arguing with an ideologue that doesn't care about what the truth actually is.

For your sake, I hope that your contempt for Israel and the Jews is relieved.
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So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious.


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.
He has offered himself as a hostage in exchange for the release of Jewish refugees. I have zero clue why you're turning this into an attack on Cdl Pizzaballa.
He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.


How do you get expelled by Hamas when you don't live in their territory? Where do you think the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem is based? There are several context clues that may give you a hint
The church where this happened is in Gaza. Nobody in allowed to live in Gaza should be believed when publicly speaking about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. If Pizzaballa was actually impartial and gave a crap about the truth, he would know this. But again, he parrots the same anti-Jew/Israel BS that he always has. So he spouts whatever Hamas wants him to.
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He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.
Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?
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So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?
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He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.
Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?
Read my post prior to yours.
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So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating
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So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?



What if the 2 women were engaged in terrorism against Israel?

I don't know who shot whom, nor their reasoning. I know which group has typically acted sane and tried to avoid innocent lives lost and which group has hidden behind enemies while raping and pillaging like animals.
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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?


I give everything the Pope says the weight and respect that his office deserves. However, his opinion on climate change has nothing to do with whether Cardinal Pizzaballa knows what's happening at Catholic Churches in his diocese.
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Eso si, Que es said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?



What if the 2 women were engaged in terrorism against Israel?

I don't know who shot whom, nor their reasoning. I know which group has typically acted sane and tried to avoid innocent lives lost and which group has hidden behind enemies while raping and pillaging like animals.


How are two old women hiding in a church engaged in terrorism against Israel? Does anyone second guess themselves and ask "why am I trying so hard to make two old women into terrorists?"
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jkag89 said:

Quote:

He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.
Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?
Read my post prior to yours.


I think you need to read your own post wherein you claim if Cdl Pizzaballa wasn't a friend of Hamas they would have expelled him.
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ttu_85 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating


I have zero doubt you go around embarrassed about being a Christian, but as Catholics we don't have that problem
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ttu_85 said:

TAMUallen said:

What a bizarre thread. I'm surprised staff hasn't stopped it
I've wondered that too, so much so I wonder its its being used as some sort of academic study. This thread has produced some ideologically extremest views I've rarely seen in recent times. Its like late 19th or early 20th C antisemitic dogma that was totally discredited right after WWII.


It's a bizarre thread indeed. But it helped me pass the time yesterday reading on my phone while stuck at the in-laws.
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Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:



HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?
I give everything the Pope says the weight and respect that his office deserves. However, his opinion on climate change has nothing to do with whether Cardinal Pizzaballa knows what's happening at Catholic Churches in his diocese.
It has everything to do with whether you will blindly believe anything any high ranking Catholic says. Which says a lot about your credibility and your ability to think for yourself.

So can you think for yourself? Or do you believe Francis on climate change?
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Terminus Est said:

ttu_85 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:





Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.
Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.
You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating
I have zero doubt you go around embarrassed about being a Christian, but as Catholics we don't have that problem
I, as a Catholic, am embarrassed that you call yourself a Catholic.
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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:



HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?
I give everything the Pope says the weight and respect that his office deserves. However, his opinion on climate change has nothing to do with whether Cardinal Pizzaballa knows what's happening at Catholic Churches in his diocese.
It has everything to do with whether you will blindly believe anything any high ranking Catholic says. Which says a lot about your credibility and your ability to think for yourself.

So can you think for yourself? Or do you believe Francis on climate change?


You claim to be Catholic, but speak like a caricature of an evangelical Protestant. Which are you?
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ttu_85 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating
LOL. If my pastor informed me I was to be "obedient to the proper authority" I'd get a good laugh out of it. Here I always thought the goal was to obey god and follow the teachings of Christ. The guys in the robes are merely advisors.
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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

ttu_85 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:





Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.
Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.
You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating
I have zero doubt you go around embarrassed about being a Christian, but as Catholics we don't have that problem
I, as a Catholic, am embarrassed that you call yourself a Catholic.


I don't care.

Plus I don't think you're actually Catholic
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aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:



HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?
I give everything the Pope says the weight and respect that his office deserves. However, his opinion on climate change has nothing to do with whether Cardinal Pizzaballa knows what's happening at Catholic Churches in his diocese.
It has everything to do with whether you will blindly believe anything any high ranking Catholic says. Which says a lot about your credibility and your ability to think for yourself.

So can you think for yourself? Or do you believe Francis on climate change?


Not germane to the topic, go to the R&P board where we discuss stuff like this all the time.
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Terminus Est said:

ttu_85 said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Kvetch said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

lead said:

So was the killing a mistake or not? Seems like this thread got hijacked by religion talk.

The answer to me is - "doesn't matter". Israel can defend itself how they see fit; and I have no special sympathy for Palestinians. Any USA conjecture on this war is a waste of time. Get back to me when Christians are clearly being systemically targeted for their beliefs.


It doesn't matter to you if Israel is purposefully killing women in Catholic Churches and attacking convents?
The fact that you believe that is hilarious. To pretend


That's literally what he said. He doesn't care if it is true. Very normal guy
*Sigh*... Do you call Americans "murderers" for bombing Japan?
What does this have to do with a sniper killing two women in a church? This wasn't collateral damage, they were the intended target. You don't accidentally kill a woman, and then kill a woman trying to help her, and then wound another 7 people.
The fact that you believe this nonsense is the most embarrassing thing about this thread. And that is saying something, since you guys have said a lot of foolish stuff.
And yet you have not given one single reason why the Cardinal Archbishop should not be believed.
Hatred of Jews. The same reasoning as you.


Just so we're clear: you are explicitly calling His Eminence a rabid antisemite because he has claimed that the IDF killed 2 woman and wonder several more at the only Latin Catholic parish in Gaza. A man who, as Cardinal Archbishop and Prince of the Church, personally offered himself in exchange for Israeli hostages being held in Gaza.

This is what you're going with?
HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so publicly a manner.


Ah, yes. Be a good Catholic and submit, even when it's wrong. Do not think for yourself.


You'll forgive me for disregarding wholesale your opinions on the finer points of Catholicism and its teachings on obedience to proper authority.
Uh your flavor of Catholicism is an embarrassment to not only Christianity but humanity. I'm sure mainstream Catholicism wants nothing to do with the extremism you and your friends are advocating


I have zero doubt you go around embarrassed about being a Christian, but as Catholics we don't have that problem
Not at all. I dont run around hating everyone. Clearly you and your marry band of fanatics do. People that post as you do are what makes this world full of blood. Islamic nutjobs, Communist crazies, Protestants that hate Catholics and Jews, Hindu extremest, etc, etc, etc, you clowns are all the same-- Haters full of envy or some other sin. Just different flavors of vile hatred that have haunted this planet from day 1.
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Bringing in the Protestants! Let's make this disaster of thread even more bizarro.
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RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

Terminus Est said:

aTmAg said:

RebelE Infantry said:

aTmAg said:



HELL YES.

Dude the POPE is a full on Marxist. He says BS crap all the time. You actually follow his crap too?

You actually think that anybody allowed in Gaza by Hamas is going to ever say anything anti-Hamas? Hell no. It is well known that reporters who say anything remotely negative about Hamas get kicked out of Gaza at the last. Hamas kills dissidents all the time. Just look at this "eminence's" past declarations, he's clearly been anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian for a damn long time. He's about as impartial as [url=https://tlaib.house.gov/about][/url]Rashida Tlaib.


Being that you hold yourself out as being a Catholic, you surely have a catechism handy. I want you to flip to paragraph 2477 and read it carefully.

A faithful Catholic ought not speak this way of the hierarchy, especially in so public a manner.
The hierarchy shouldn't speak idiocy and BS so publicly if they don't want to be spoken against.

Are you believing Francis on all of his climate change nonsense?


What if the IDF actually did shoot two women and attack a convent with a tank?
I asked you first. Do you believe Francis on climate change?
I give everything the Pope says the weight and respect that his office deserves. However, his opinion on climate change has nothing to do with whether Cardinal Pizzaballa knows what's happening at Catholic Churches in his diocese.
It has everything to do with whether you will blindly believe anything any high ranking Catholic says. Which says a lot about your credibility and your ability to think for yourself.

So can you think for yourself? Or do you believe Francis on climate change?
You claim to be Catholic, but speak like a caricature of an evangelical Protestant. Which are you?
Catholic.... But unlike you, I use the brain God gave me to realize that sometimes Popes and Cardinals are full of crap. For example, I can admit that Pope John XII was a jackass who didn't really speak or act for God or the Church. Likewise, I can recognize that Pope Francis is a Marxist who pushes his politics as Pope and that Pizzaballa has about as much credibility as the Hamas leadership.
 
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