Spot on.

Anytime a girl I like says, "You're going to make someone very happy one day," it just makes me think her self esteem is so awful she thinks she's a nobody.

Men want women more than they need them. Women need men more than they want them.

And the game plays on.

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I do t think you need to be taller than the average guy - just a little taller than the girl you are dating. The really tall guys I've known were not exactly chick magnets.

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In my experience, the height girls like correlates to the height of their father. No clue if this is science backed.

But let's not pretend guys don't have preferences as well. I've heard numerous women complain about guys only liking short girls/big boobs/etc. So the knife can cut both ways.

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I've got 6 girls.

Three ARE with shorter guys (I'm 5'7").

But 2 are with taller guys 6'+.

The other has a wife, so not sure how that works in the algorithm.

As to the other part, we all know that there are butt guys and boob guys. Not that we don't like both, but we have preferences.

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?

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Dating apps have made it to where women are going after the top 5% of men, ignoring the other 95%.

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No, that's always been true - Homecoming King, Prom King, QB, Captain of the Football Team, etc. What women want hasn't changed.

What has changed is that now, they are led to believe that they have a shot because there's an App that tells them, if Chad is desperate enough, and needs to bust a nut badly enough, they do have a shot at a late night booty call and none of Chad's friends will ever find out it happened.

It's literally real life "Jake Ryan, 16 Candles".

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Uh oh...you just put out the Tanya Bat Signal.

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Shut up!

I do have this shirt though

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Hehehehe

BassCowboy33 said:

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Buck Turgidson said:

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I do t think you need to be taller than the average guy - just a little taller than the girl you are dating. The really tall guys I've known were not exactly chick magnets.

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In my experience, the height girls like correlates to the height of their father. No clue if this is science backed.

But let's not pretend guys don't have preferences as well. I've heard numerous women complain about guys only liking short girls/big boobs/etc. So the knife can cut both ways.

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Most of the things men like about women's bodies can be improved upon by a woman. Her weight and fitness are completely within her control. There is nothing a short man can do to change his height.

My ex gf was only 5'4", but she refused to date any man below 5'10. I think they see it as a status thing with other women or some other silly reason.

The bottom line is women want to "date at least across, preferably up"... They determine if he is up by his looks, money/occupation and social status/skills & intellect.

If they date "below" it is generally a safety/financial/convenience decision... Look out at that point for future divorce (if get married)

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BassCowboy33 said:

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Buck Turgidson said:

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I do t think you need to be taller than the average guy - just a little taller than the girl you are dating. The really tall guys I've known were not exactly chick magnets.

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It's a work in progress.
In my experience, the height girls like correlates to the height of their father. No clue if this is science backed.

But let's not pretend guys don't have preferences as well. I've heard numerous women complain about guys only liking short girls/big boobs/etc. So the knife can cut both ways.

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I've got 6 girls.

Three ARE with shorter guys (I'm 5'7").

But 2 are with taller guys 6'+.

The other has a wife, so not sure how that works in the algorithm.

As to the other part, we all know that there are butt guys and boob guys. Not that we don't like both, but we have preferences.

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Sounds vapid but you gotta inspect their parents and genetics to see what you're buying into if you have kids. At some point genetics take over.

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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LarryElder said:

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dont be fat, have hobbies, be interesting you will get a babe money doesn't matter women are always thirsty

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I say this as a guy in the top fraction of a percentage according the "female delusion calculator":

Some guys are dealt a better hand than others.

Sure - there are things like fitness, personality, wisdom, and work ethic which can be developed - but genetic advantages do exist, and if women are fighting over the top few percent guys it's just easier to be in that demo if you won the genetic lottery.

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Nahhhh....most guys can get there from just being smart and putting in the work and not falling prey to the pop culture mind programming that tries to pussify and create beta males.

And that is why women like top men because they resist the programming.

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I run into so many good looking woman/hideous guy couples that it honestly gets distracting, lol.

Also, don't use the term "beta male" in real conversations. Few things make a guy look worse. Actual, confident people don't say crap like that, lol. If you talk about how much of an "alpha male" you are or how much you're not a puss, then you're not an alpha male.

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Lol....a confident male doesn't care what "makes him look good".

Pussified and beta males are a thing. Submissive male may be more accurate but it has sexual connotations that I would rather not open the door for someone to attack. At the end of the day I am not going to change my language based on what someone thinks of the terminology

If that language is accurate it is accurate and that is enough.

Worrying about "how you said it" makes other people feel is a very female way to approach things.

So that tells me abit about you.

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Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.

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This sounds like urban areas. I bet they don't think that way 20 miles outside of the large cities.

BassCowboy33 said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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LarryElder said:

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dont be fat, have hobbies, be interesting you will get a babe money doesn't matter women are always thirsty

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I say this as a guy in the top fraction of a percentage according the "female delusion calculator":

Some guys are dealt a better hand than others.

Sure - there are things like fitness, personality, wisdom, and work ethic which can be developed - but genetic advantages do exist, and if women are fighting over the top few percent guys it's just easier to be in that demo if you won the genetic lottery.

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Nahhhh....most guys can get there from just being smart and putting in the work and not falling prey to the pop culture mind programming that tries to pussify and create beta males.

And that is why women like top men because they resist the programming.

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I run into so many good looking woman/hideous guy couples that it honestly gets distracting, lol.

Also, don't use the term "beta male" in real conversations. Few things make a guy look worse. Actual, confident people don't say crap like that, lol. If you talk about how much of an "alpha male" you are or how much you're not a puss, then you're not an alpha male.

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Spot on. "Alpha" or "beta" coming out of a guys mouth is as sure a sign as using the term "TDS". Sudden loss of credibility.

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BassCowboy33 said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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LarryElder said:

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dont be fat, have hobbies, be interesting you will get a babe money doesn't matter women are always thirsty

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I say this as a guy in the top fraction of a percentage according the "female delusion calculator":

Some guys are dealt a better hand than others.

Sure - there are things like fitness, personality, wisdom, and work ethic which can be developed - but genetic advantages do exist, and if women are fighting over the top few percent guys it's just easier to be in that demo if you won the genetic lottery.

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Nahhhh....most guys can get there from just being smart and putting in the work and not falling prey to the pop culture mind programming that tries to pussify and create beta males.

And that is why women like top men because they resist the programming.

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I run into so many good looking woman/hideous guy couples that it honestly gets distracting, lol.

Also, don't use the term "beta male" in real conversations. Few things make a guy look worse. Actual, confident people don't say crap like that, lol. If you talk about how much of an "alpha male" you are or how much you're not a puss, then you're not an alpha male.

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Spot on. "Alpha" or "beta" coming out of a guys mouth is as sure a sign as using the term "TDS". Sudden loss of credibility.

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Instant red flag. Just like a girl who constantly brings up her ex on a first date. Red flags everywhere.

BassCowboy33 said:

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GAC06 said:

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BassCowboy33 said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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LarryElder said:

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dont be fat, have hobbies, be interesting you will get a babe money doesn't matter women are always thirsty

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I say this as a guy in the top fraction of a percentage according the "female delusion calculator":

Some guys are dealt a better hand than others.

Sure - there are things like fitness, personality, wisdom, and work ethic which can be developed - but genetic advantages do exist, and if women are fighting over the top few percent guys it's just easier to be in that demo if you won the genetic lottery.

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Nahhhh....most guys can get there from just being smart and putting in the work and not falling prey to the pop culture mind programming that tries to pussify and create beta males.

And that is why women like top men because they resist the programming.

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I run into so many good looking woman/hideous guy couples that it honestly gets distracting, lol.

Also, don't use the term "beta male" in real conversations. Few things make a guy look worse. Actual, confident people don't say crap like that, lol. If you talk about how much of an "alpha male" you are or how much you're not a puss, then you're not an alpha male.

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Spot on. "Alpha" or "beta" coming out of a guys mouth is as sure a sign as using the term "TDS". Sudden loss of credibility.

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Instant red flag. Just like a girl who constantly brings up her ex on a first date. Red flags everywhere.

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"Look, folks, let me tell you, it's a disaster, okay? These women, they're talking about their exes all the time on dates. It's a total disaster. I've heard it, people have told me. And let me tell you, it's dangerous. Very dangerous. You're sitting there, trying to have a nice dinner, and all they can talk about is their ex. What does that tell you? It tells you they're not focused on the future, on making your date great again. We need to be with people who are winners, who are winners in the present, not stuck in the past. It's a real problem, folks, and we've got to address it."

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Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.

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This sounds like urban areas. I bet they don't think that way 20 miles outside of the large cities.

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Maybe 20 years ago. Nowadays you need to get at least an hour outside of a major city center to find that.

Dating is worse now largely because the average person is no longer sexually attractive physically because they are fat. If everyone maintained a good physique, there would be a lot easier time finding a partner because there would be more available that meet the minimum requirement on the physical attraction side, and each individual will draw attention from more potential dates.

There are a lot of factors making it hard for people to find suitable mates, but the fact most Americans are obese I think is one of the largest contributors.

In 1970 obesity was around 15%.
Today it's over 40%!

If you just filter out people who are overweight, you eliminate 70% of potential dates.

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. . . 120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. . .

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time.
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A long time ago on a site far, far away Higher Authority would have had you train them to be a Steve, which is different than being a Chad. Be desireless, be excellent, and be gone. It's more Taoist than Christian though.

Absent them becoming a proper noun are you thinking of some sort of sexual socialism where the Chads and the women in question are forced to share with the less fortunate? Like with income inequality?

Young bull never thinks it through.

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Nanomachines son said:

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. . . 120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. . .

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time.
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A long time ago on a site far, far away Higher Authority would have had you train them to be a Steve, which is different than being a Chad. Be desireless, be excellent, and be gone. It's more Taoist than Christian though.

Absent them becoming a proper noun are you thinking of some sort of sexual socialism where the Chads and the women in question are forced to share with the less fortunate? Like with income inequality?

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Doing stuff is overrated. Like Hitler. He did a lot. But don't we all wish he woulda just stayed home and gotten stoned?

I totally blew my 20s due to a breathtaking lack of planning. Kept waiting for somebody to offer me a great job because I was a nice guy, etc. Worked out some but not enough. My advice for a 20 something guy? Make a professional and personal plan. Set goals and work for them. Build wealth and set personal fitness records. Do some co-ed activities. Don't worry about screwing volume but identify quality women. You will find a good one. By good I mean an adult who is there for the good times and inevitable tragedies that almost always occur during a long lifetime.

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Dating is worse now largely because the average person is no longer sexually attractive physically because they are fat. If everyone maintained a good physique, there would be a lot easier time finding a partner because there would be more available that meet the minimum requirement on the physical attraction side, and each individual will draw attention from more potential dates.

There are a lot of factors making it hard for people to find suitable mates, but the fact most Americans are obese I think is one of the largest contributors.

In 1970 obesity was around 15%.
Today it's over 40%!

If you just filter out people who are overweight, you eliminate 70% of potential dates.

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Bobaloo said:

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Do some co-ed activities. Don't worry about screwing volume but identify quality women. You will find a good one. By good I mean an adult who is there for the good times and inevitable tragedies that almost always occur during a long lifetime.

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I would agree with a lot of this. Get into lifting, or running, or something. You'll find women with similar interests - tons of single, lean women in all the runs clubs I belong to.

The most important financial decision you will ever make is choosing your wife. She will end up doing 90% of the spending in any relationship, so pick someone frugal and balanced in how they spend $. If she's REALLY into fashion, run away as fast as you can.

I have a large extended set of nieces and nephews. Watching them has been very sad. Most of the girls and boys are fat and have little to offer. Very little understanding of anything or motivation but a lot of complaining.

I have written about one of the girls a few times here. Started out as very pretty and heterosexual. A bad couple of guys and she decided to be fat and lesbian for a few years. She is back to being hetero again, trying to get back in shape but now covered in really stupid tattoos, many of which advertise that she at least used to be gay.

I wonder if we will see arranged marriages, matchmakers, family introductions/arrangements, etc. come back into style as parents of both sexes seek to find a suitable partner for their children.