Dating disparities between high value men and average men not sustainable

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Nanomachines son
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120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. We know marriage rate are plummeting and that divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time.

The fact that the majority of women will be single and childless by the end of the 2030s says everything.

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time. I know they aren't likely to look like Chad Thunderc**k in large part because they won't be 6'5" even if they have good genetics elsewhere. I won't have to speak to them about this topic for a number of years but frankly I have no idea what I would even say. I don't want to blackpill them immediately but I won't lie to them either.

The internet has given me women the infinite fallacy of choice and destroyed the ability of men to find someone on their level. The end result is that both will end up alone.

The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
Pookers
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Nanomachines son said:



120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. We know marriage rate are plummeting and that divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time.

The fact that the majority of women will be single and childless by the end of the 2030s says everything.

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time. I know they aren't likely to look like Chad Thunderc**k in large part because they won't be 6'5" even if they have good genetics elsewhere. I won't have to speak to them about this topic for a number of years but frankly I have no idea what I would even say. I don't want to blackpill them immediately but I won't lie to them either.

The internet has given me women the infinite fallacy of choice and destroyed the ability of men to find someone on their level. The end result is that both will end up alone.

The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
I doubt 192 matches per year is average for the average guy.
flashplayer
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Maybe the women will finally come around on polygamy.
Pookers
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flashplayer said:

Maybe the women will finally come around on polygamy.
I see a whole lot of "ethical non monogamous" stuff on these apps. Complete trash.
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Pookers said:

Nanomachines son said:



120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. We know marriage rate are plummeting and that divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time.

The fact that the majority of women will be single and childless by the end of the 2030s says everything.

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time. I know they aren't likely to look like Chad Thunderc**k in large part because they won't be 6'5" even if they have good genetics elsewhere. I won't have to speak to them about this topic for a number of years but frankly I have no idea what I would even say. I don't want to blackpill them immediately but I won't lie to them either.

The internet has given me women the infinite fallacy of choice and destroyed the ability of men to find someone on their level. The end result is that both will end up alone.

The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
I doubt 192 matches per year is average for the average guy.
You think that number is too less? Too high?

And of those 192 matches, did all of them also match with Chad? Because that's like 0 realistic matches
Rapier108
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I doubt 192 matches per year is average for the average guy.
1.92 is more likely.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Pookers
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deddog said:

Pookers said:

Nanomachines son said:



120,000 matches in a year for Chad vs 192 for an average man.

This goes in line perfectly with how women view 90% of men as unattractive. I don't see how this will work long term. We know marriage rate are plummeting and that divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time.

The fact that the majority of women will be single and childless by the end of the 2030s says everything.

I'm married and have two sons and I immensely worry about their future options all of the time. I know they aren't likely to look like Chad Thunderc**k in large part because they won't be 6'5" even if they have good genetics elsewhere. I won't have to speak to them about this topic for a number of years but frankly I have no idea what I would even say. I don't want to blackpill them immediately but I won't lie to them either.

The internet has given me women the infinite fallacy of choice and destroyed the ability of men to find someone on their level. The end result is that both will end up alone.

The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
I doubt 192 matches per year is average for the average guy.
You think that number is too less? Too high?

And of those 192 matches, did all of them also match with Chad? Because that's like 0 realistic matches
Far to high.
Rapier108
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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Nanomachines son said:


The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
You have the answer right there.
Pookers
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Rapier108 said:


Looks about right.
deddog
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Nanomachines son said:


The only real option at this point is to put your faith into God and find a woman this way because the modern methods are out completely.
Nanomachines son
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Yep. Women simply don't care how you act at all. Your personality is entirely based upon your looks.

If you're ugly then you're a creep and if you're Chad then you're funny, witty, confident, etc.
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Most of those profiles look fake. And if there is a real woman behind them, one that looks anything like the pictures, you know they are shallow and materialistic Kardashian worshipers.
Logos Stick
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Will they be single and childless though?

Seems to me they'll screw every Chad out there and at some point realize they are nothing more than a *****.

Then they will fall to earth and lower their standards. Unless men are willing to completely swear them off, they'll find someone at that point.

I don't see women losing at all here.
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I'm going to bet the images of everyone involved are edited and filtered to the max. Lots of false information. Lots of vain hope for the princess story of the "perfect" relationship to brag to friends about on social media. Lots of dues exploiting the hell out of this circumstance while lots of others are SOL.

We live in a digital self delusion. It's like surprise mental health is suffering.
aezmvp
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Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.
Pookers
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aezmvp said:

Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.
I think that podcast goes out of their way to get delusional women for the clicks (At least this is what I hope).
Hungry Ojos
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Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?
Silent For Too Long
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Dating Apps aren't the real world.

In the real world, young, normal, average people are still meeting up, dating, getting married, having babies.

Just tell your boys to put the ****ing phone down and get involved in activities in the real world with real people. It's really that simple.
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Every time these threads come up I always wonder if the doomsayers ever actually go out to bars and see what's going on. They're packed with men and women of all ranges (1 - 10) mingling and often hooking up. You will see less than desirable people having fun with each other and leaving together. You absolutely do not need to be an alpha male to get women. It's just a lot easier if you are.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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There will be a correction and everything will be just fine.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
Pookers
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Hungry Ojos said:

Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?
Dating apps have made it to where women are going after the top 5% of men, ignoring the other 95%.
Petrino1
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What's this supposed to prove, that attractive men get more matches and preferential treatment on dating apps compared to average or below average looking men? Color me shocked!!
Logos Stick
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Hungry Ojos said:

Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?


If you were young now, unless you are a 6-5, blond hair, blue eyed stud with muscles and lots of money, you ain't getting a date. Even with a below average female.
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I'm glad I'm too old to have ever used dating apps. Whatever happened to meeting chicks at bars the old fashioned way?
Rapier108
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aezmvp said:

Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.
And it really isn't that new of a thing. Probably been a thing since time immemorial, it is just more open and obvious now.

20 years ago, I remember the church girls always said they were "waiting for my Boaz" which they claimed meant they were waiting for the man "God intended." What it really meant was they were waiting for the rich guy, or the guy who had a high potential for making a lot of money.

The guys getting degrees and/or Masters/PhDs in things like computers, engineering, or medical always had girl friends. Everyone else was sorry out of luck. Even some the guys who were getting those high $$$ potential degrees still didn't if they weren't good looking enough.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Pookers
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Petrino1 said:

What's this supposed to prove, that attractive men get more matches and preferential treatment on dating apps compared to average or below average looking men? Color me shocked!!
The problem is your fugly / average women are getting to sleep with men way out of their leagues. The women then assume this is who they should be locking down in a relationship which will never happen. You end up with ugly / average women with unrealistic expectations and the majority of men being locked out of the dating pool.
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Logos Stick said:

Will they be single and childless though?

Seems to me they'll screw every Chad out there and at some point realize they are nothing more than a *****.

Then they will fall to earth and lower their standards. Unless men are willing to completely swear them off, they'll find someone at that point.

I don't see women losing at all here.


There is a reason "big brother" the welfare provider has become more politically popular amongst the females. Want to have cake of taking risks and eat it also of having financial security. It's easy to buy votes by offering that financial security on the part of government assistance.

Males are on the way to being voted into becoming worker drones. Labor away, pay taxes, carry the load for female voters mostly disinterested in them. Not all, or even a big fraction, but a possibly destabilizing fraction of the population unless our social behavior trends change. Our deep biological proclivities are not necessarily prepared or evolved for our technology where social behavior is concerned.
Hungry Ojos
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Logos Stick said:

Hungry Ojos said:

Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?


If you were young now, unless you are a 6-5, blond hair, blue eyed stud with muscles and lots of money, you ain't getting a date. Even with a below average female.


Looks like I would've been fine.
mm98
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I feel like there should be striking data similarities when these concerns came up 10+ years ago about internet porn and its impact on men not having realistic views of women.


Joes
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Yep. Women are at least as superficial as men. When they're physically attracted to you they will rationalize everything else.

Jerry:
And what is his stand on abortion?
Elaine:
What?
Jerry:
What is his stand... on abortion?
Elaine:
Well, I'm sure he's pro-choice.
Jerry:
How do you know?
Elaine:
Because he... Well... He's just so good-looking.
Nanomachines son
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aezmvp said:

Yeah, I have a teenage boy and have watched some stuff that he'll get exposed to like the Whatever podcast. The illusions most women have about men is INSANE. Hey your average 20 something guy makes $250k and that sort of thing. I won't go on a second date unless they spend $400 type of stuff.

You'll see it on things like that post about places never to go on a first date. Ridiculous. I worry about my younger kids. This trend line hasn't been good.


Exactly. I worry immensely for my sons. The world I grew up in is now dead and gone. I met my wife at a bar. That never happens nowadays except for rare cases because people rarely go out anymore.

The dating world is a nightmare now. Social media validation addiction has ruined generations of people.
Pookers
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mm98 said:

I feel like there should be striking data similarities when these concerns came up 10+ years ago about internet porn and its impact on men not having realistic views of women.



Porn isn't helping the situation but I think it's a separate issue.
Joes
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Nanomachines son said:



Yep. Women simply don't care how you act at all. Your personality is entirely based upon your looks.

If you're ugly then you're a creep and if you're Chad then you're funny, witty, confident, etc.
This skit nailed it totally.

Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.




Logos Stick
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Hungry Ojos said:

Logos Stick said:

Hungry Ojos said:

Can someone help an old guy understand what the hell all of this is about?


If you were young now, unless you are a 6-5, blond hair, blue eyed stud with muscles and lots of money, you ain't getting a date. Even with a below average female.


Looks like I would've been fine.


 
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