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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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Trump let 5,000 Taliban fighters and Baradar out of prison in exchange for nothing. Afghanistan is his fault.

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Ok

BurnetAggie99 said:

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Good thing is our embassy's are guarded by US Maines so turn those Devil Dogs loose. Marines do one thing good & that's kill everything in their path

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Benghazi was guarded by Marines too.
And the problem, is that just like back then, the POTUS is a eunuch.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Biden landing in the region in a couple of hours... Two carrier battle groups in the Med (or is one in the Red Sea?)

Fires burning at our embassies, Hezbolah calling for a day of rage, and Iran talking about preemptive actions.

The Middle East is NOT afraid of a Biden led America.

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Welcome back Carter!

Manhattan said:

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Trump solved all that beef between Israel and UAE and Bahrain.

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Better than anyone has ever done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords

What have Biden, Obama, Valerie or Kilary accomplished?

Just blood death and profits. Where was Obama's last ocean front property? What did he do to earn the money for that?

Fightin_Aggie said:

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Manhattan said:

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Trump solved all that beef between Israel and UAE and Bahrain.

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Better than anyone has ever done.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords

What have Biden, Obama, Valerie or Kilary accomplished?

Just blood death and profits. Where was Obama's last ocean front property? What did he do to earn the money for that?

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They tried to overthrow the governments of Egypt, Syria, and Libya to make more Iran's. Great thinkers

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BurnetAggie99 said:

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Good thing is our embassy's are guarded by US Maines so turn those Devil Dogs loose. Marines do one thing good & that's kill everything in their path

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Benghazi was guarded by Marines too.
And the problem, is that just like back then, the POTUS is a eunuch.

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This not true. US didn't have a embassy in Benghazi. We had a diplomatic compound in Benghazi that wasn't near secure to protect Ambassador Stevens. The CIA base had a 3rd operators who were contractors working for the CIA. That said those guys were a mix of former Marine Raiders, Army Rangers, & Navy Seals. Those former JSOC operators went out of there way to save the Ambassador. Then the terrorist attacked the CIA base and those guys fought & died to protect Americans. Hillary was Secretary of State and didn't do anything to support those guys during that time. The movie 13 hours pretty much sums up what happened.

Manhattan said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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No they were left because this admin decided shipping them home would not fit their timetable and would not be economical.

Now why don't you discuss the topic of the thread...our embassies are under threat because of the weakness that your president has created. Own it

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They weren't ours, they were already the Afghan governments. Trump tried to come home before Christmas 2020, was he going to pack it all up and bring it?

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Yes. He was.

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Manhattan said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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Trump let 5,000 Taliban fighters and Baradar out of prison in exchange for nothing. Afghanistan is his fault.

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So, it's your position that the disgraceful Afgan withdrwl was Trumps fault? It was Trumps fault that we abandoned all of that military hardware in Afghanistan so that Biden could declare victory by a certain date? That is your position?

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It was absolutely Trumps fault, he negotiated with the Taliban, he put the Afghan government in charge and gave them the weapons, and he left Biden with 2500 troops.

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Manhattan said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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No they were left because this admin decided shipping them home would not fit their timetable and would not be economical.

Now why don't you discuss the topic of the thread...our embassies are under threat because of the weakness that your president has created. Own it

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They weren't ours, they were already the Afghan governments. Trump tried to come home before Christmas 2020, was he going to pack it all up and bring it?

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Yes. He was.

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This is a lie, Trump wanted to just up and leave while he was a lame duck. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/10/07/trump-us-will-be-out-of-afghanistan-by-christmas/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-us-troops-out-of-afghanistan-by-christmas-427651

The military told him to **** off.

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— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 18, 2023

Manhattan said:

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BusterAg said:

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Manhattan said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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Trump let 5,000 Taliban fighters and Baradar out of prison in exchange for nothing. Afghanistan is his fault.

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So, it's your position that the disgraceful Afgan withdrwl was Trumps fault? It was Trumps fault that we abandoned all of that military hardware in Afghanistan so that Biden could declare victory by a certain date? That is your position?

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It was absolutely Trumps fault, he negotiated with the Taliban, he put the Afghan government in charge and gave them the weapons, and he left Biden with 2500 troops.

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So, Biden had no choice but to do what Trump had tweeted he thought SHOULD be done? Was Biden responsible for finishing everything that Trump started? I was unaware that the POTUS was unable to undo what former POTUS had started.

What would Trump have done if Taliban would have taken over Afghanistan and started war crap while Trump was in office? You seen to know for certain what he would have done, but I'm not sure why you think you know that.

I do know one thing. When the U.S. pulled out of Iraq, and ISIS started stirring **** up in that vacuum, Trump shut that **** down, and fast. Why wouldn't Trump have done the exact same thing in Afghanistan?

No, Biden was in charge when the withdrawal was ordered. ISIS didn't get armed to the teeth from the US withdrawal from Iraq. Biden didn't order to have everything packed up and out when talks went south.

You can smell crazy on that lady (and i imagine shes in another timezone all together).

Manhattan said:

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BusterAg said:

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Manhattan said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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No they were left because this admin decided shipping them home would not fit their timetable and would not be economical.

Now why don't you discuss the topic of the thread...our embassies are under threat because of the weakness that your president has created. Own it

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They weren't ours, they were already the Afghan governments. Trump tried to come home before Christmas 2020, was he going to pack it all up and bring it?

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Yes. He was.

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This is a lie, Trump wanted to just up and leave while he was a lame duck. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/10/07/trump-us-will-be-out-of-afghanistan-by-christmas/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-us-troops-out-of-afghanistan-by-christmas-427651

The military told him to **** off.

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Why didn't Biden listen to the military when they told him not to run out of Afghanistan with our tail between our legs?

Why did Biden allow a fall of Saigon moment when he said that this was not going to happen?

Why did Biden say that the withdrawal from Afghanistan needed to be sped up compared to what Trump was doing?

Why did Biden believe that the Afghan army was going to beat the Taliban after the U.S. withdrawal?

Why didn't Biden listen to his military advisors when they said that the Afghan government was going to fail?

Why didn't Biden lengthen the amount of time for the withdrawal to make time to evacuate the military hardware?

Is it possible that Biden was saying something publicly (that the Afghan military was able to beat the Taliban) that he didn't really believe, but was still the best thing to say at the time?

Is it possible that Trump was saying something publicly (that the U.S. military was going to be out by May 2021) that he didn't really believe, but was still the best thing to say at the time?

Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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So by this logic, 9/11 was Bush's fault?

C@LAg said:

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no, but you are in denial if you think Trump has some magic wand that would have stopped either of these events.

but the again, you trumvestites sure love your echo chamber where you mutually re-affirm each other that you are right.

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Texags is not a trump echo chamber.

Your take is bad. Trump was arguably the goat on foreign policy and peace making in the past 50 years.

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Manhattan said:

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His decisions caused exactly what he said would not happen. "There will not be a fall of Saigon moment."
Yeah how'd that work out? Stranded Americans, dead service members. Afghan allies executed in the streets. Enough arms left behind to field a well equipped army with an aviation component. You look ridiculous defending it.

All on your empty headed corrupt chosen president

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Arms weren't left behind, Arms were gifted to the Afghan government by the Trump administration.

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Now you are just flat out lying instead of just twisting facts. Unbelievable that you are either so blind or so stupid. Can't tell which.

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SJL voter. Enough said .

BurnetAggie99 said:

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deddog said:

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BurnetAggie99 said:

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Good thing is our embassy's are guarded by US Maines so turn those Devil Dogs loose. Marines do one thing good & that's kill everything in their path

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Benghazi was guarded by Marines too.
And the problem, is that just like back then, the POTUS is a eunuch.

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This not true. US didn't have a embassy in Benghazi. We had a diplomatic compound in Benghazi that wasn't near secure to protect Ambassador Stevens. The CIA base had a 3rd operators who were contractors working for the CIA. That said those guys were a mix of former Marine Raiders, Army Rangers, & Navy Seals. Those former JSOC operators went out of there way to save the Ambassador. Then the terrorist attacked the CIA base and those guys fought & died to protect Americans. Hillary was Secretary of State and didn't do anything to support those guys during that time. The movie 13 hours pretty much sums up what happened.

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Thanks didn't realize that.

C@LAg said:

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no, but you are in denial if you think Trump has some magic wand that would have stopped either of these events.

but the again, you trumvestites sure love your echo chamber where you mutually re-affirm each other that you are right.

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It was not a magic wand, but it was a big ****ing stick.

How many of these skirmishes erupted under Trump?

BurnetAggie99 said:

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Good thing is our embassy's are guarded by US Maines so turn those Devil Dogs loose. Marines do one thing good & that's kill everything in their path

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As much as I love my brothers, sometimes numbers become insurmountable. If you've got a platoon in garrison (which is a large security garrison) and they all kill 100:1, they can still be overrun by a mob of 4,000. As much as I love the M240B, it only points in one direction at a time.

pagerman @ work said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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So by this logic, 9/11 was Bush's fault?

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You could very well make the argument that the admin in the early days of the W. admin did not heed the intelligence of the potential for a 09/11 type attack.

Plenty of blame to lay at the feet of Clinton, but W, should not have been caught as flat footed as we were.

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Guess we know what will be used to steal the 2024 election… WW3

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How exactly would it be stolen if there was a 3rd world war? Who's actually alive to vote? If we're in the midst of an actual world war, voting is likely farthest from anyones mind.

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Is that the virtue signal?

BluHorseShu said:

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ttha_aggie_09 said:

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Guess we know what will be used to steal the 2024 election… WW3

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How exactly would it be stolen if there was a 3rd world war? Who's actually alive to vote? If we're in the midst of an actual world war, voting is likely farthest from anyones mind.

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Do you think people need to be alive to cast votes for dems?

Pretty sure Biden will follow the Zelensky Democracy Initiative and just suspend elections until such time they see fit as to appoint a successor. Just like our Founding Fathers intended...

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GeeBee said:

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Y'all should stop engaging Manhattan. It's a lost cause. This is who you are debating:

We have record inflation, an open border, wars breaking out across the globe, rampant violence, a weakened military, and unaffordable housing

Yet this lady genuinely believes America is doing better under Biden than Trump

Leftism is a mental disorder pic.twitter.com/hs7bcunrBr

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) October 16, 2023

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We engage him because he flat out lies when things don't go his way. Can't let his lies stand. Everybody knows it including staff.

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Yes, He does, but he's pretty clear on the shouted "YOU WON'T CHANGE MY MIND!" part.

You have yet to ever post a single lie I have told.

Because leaving Afghanistan was the better choice than reengaging the war.

pagerman @ work said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.

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So by this logic, 9/11 was Bush's fault?

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The response to 9/11 was significantly worse for this country than 9/11 itself and the response was absolutely Bush's fault.