US Embassies in Trouble?

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9:29p, 10/17/23
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Heres an article i found.

Read it and form your own opinion. Its sounds like there was a mutual hope that it would bring peace to the region. This idea that there was nothing exchanged for it is not true. 1000 afghan soldiers were released in exchange for 5,000 taliban.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51689443.amp
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In reply to Manhattan • 9:29p, 10/17/23
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Manhattan said:
Old_Ag_91 said:
Youve lost your mind. The burnt orange derangement has made you illogical. Russia waited till a weak man got into office and went about their business so did hamas. Afghanistan wouldnt have happened either but youll deny that as well. Whatever. Enjoy whatever colored sky you live under. It aint blue thats for sure.


Trump let 5,000 Taliban fighters and Baradar out of prison in exchange for nothing. Afghanistan is his fault.
Uh, no.

Fault lies with the piece of **** who was in the White House at the time of the Afghanistan disaster. Had your side not stolen the election, then Trump would have been in there, and while the withdrawal was planned, it would never have been the ****show that the dementia-riddled communist put on.
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In reply to Manhattan • 9:39p, 10/17/23
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Yes, releasing 5,000 Taliban and Baradar is one of the biggest jokes done by any president in history.
Biden is in charge, the buck stops with him, or at least that is what he said. I guess he lied again
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In reply to samurai_science • 9:41p, 10/17/23
Was he supposed to ask them nicely to go back to prison?
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In reply to Manhattan • 9:48p, 10/17/23
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You never tire at being wrong do you.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 9:49p, 10/17/23
Rockdoc said:
You never tire at being wrong do you.


I'm wrong about Trump letting out 5,000 prisoners and Baradar for nothing? It was the worst decision since invading the other country, Iraq. And told all the countries around the world that Trump in office means the US can easily be swindled.
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In reply to Manhattan • 9:50p, 10/17/23
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Lol keep going while you still can.
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9:51p, 10/17/23
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The whole debacle goes on Biden. The 5000 prisoner talking point is bs because they would have been freed the minute the Biden endorsed partners took control. It was his admin that moved the plan from an easily controlled air force base to a down town airport. It was his order that murdered a random innocent family in a retaliatory strike after the suicide bombing.

You voted for a senile corrupt plagiarizing imbecile. No matter how many gotchas you throw out there...it is your president that has destroyed any foreign deference for the US
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In reply to Rockdoc • 9:52p, 10/17/23
Your support for a treason is sad.
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 9:53p, 10/17/23
Bagram would have taken another 5000 troops to hold. Every argument against Biden falls back to we should have send more troops and never left.
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In reply to Manhattan • 9:56p, 10/17/23
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Manhattan said:
Your support for a treason is sad.

Sounds like something SheJack would say.
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:00p, 10/17/23
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His decisions caused exactly what he said would not happen. "There will not be a fall of Saigon moment."
Yeah how'd that work out? Stranded Americans, dead service members. Afghan allies executed in the streets. Enough arms left behind to field a well equipped army with an aviation component. You look ridiculous defending it.

All on your empty headed corrupt chosen president
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10:01p, 10/17/23
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Someone reboot the Bot. He's stuck on repeat
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:02p, 10/17/23
Manhattan said:
Was he supposed to ask them nicely to go back to prison?
No, you are disingenuous at minimum. Any violation of the terms would have neutered the deal. The Taliban had numerous violations. President Biden ignored the violations and proceeded with a disaster of a withdrawal costing more American lives.

Your continued corruption of the facts is getting tiresome on so many levels.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 10:04p, 10/17/23
AgBQ-00 said:
His decisions caused exactly what he said would not happen. "There will not be a fall of Saigon moment."
Yeah how'd that work out? Stranded Americans, dead service members. Afghan allies executed in the streets. Enough arms left behind to field a well equipped army with an aviation component. You look ridiculous defending it.

All on your empty headed corrupt chosen president


Arms weren't left behind, Arms were gifted to the Afghan government by the Trump administration.

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In reply to richardag • 10:05p, 10/17/23
Neutered the deal? So the US stays in Afghanistan…. Not acceptable.
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:10p, 10/17/23
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Manhattan said:
AgBQ-00 said:
His decisions caused exactly what he said would not happen. "There will not be a fall of Saigon moment."
Yeah how'd that work out? Stranded Americans, dead service members. Afghan allies executed in the streets. Enough arms left behind to field a well equipped army with an aviation component. You look ridiculous defending it.

All on your empty headed corrupt chosen president


Arms weren't left behind, Arms were gifted to the Afghan government by the Trump administration.


You just can't stop lying. But everybody's used to it. It's on your man, the vegetable.
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10:11p, 10/17/23
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No they were left because this admin decided shipping them home would not fit their timetable and would not be economical.

Now why don't you discuss the topic of the thread...our embassies are under threat because of the weakness that your president has created. Own it
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In reply to smstork1007 • 10:11p, 10/17/23
smstork1007 said:
Would likely take an actual army to do any real damage or threaten those at the Embassy in the Iraqi green zone. As for the others, not sure.


This has already happened in the green zone in the last 10 for sure
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 10:14p, 10/17/23
AgBQ-00 said:
No they were left because this admin decided shipping them home would not fit their timetable and would not be economical.

Now why don't you discuss the topic of the thread...our embassies are under threat because of the weakness that your president has created. Own it


They weren't ours, they were already the Afghan governments. Trump tried to come home before Christmas 2020, was he going to pack it all up and bring it?
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:14p, 10/17/23
Manhattan said:
Bagram would have taken another 5000 troops to hold. Every argument against Biden falls back to we should have send more troops and never left.
Bull***** In 2020 there were 6 KIA in Afghanistan. Operations out of Bagram Air base ln support of the Afghanistan army, even corrupt as it was, was holding off the Taliban.

We will never know what President Trump would have done regarding the treaty he signed with the Taliban because morons voted for a brain dead corrupt, amoral, unethical and dishonorable criminal named Biden.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to richardag • 10:15p, 10/17/23
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Manhattan said:
Bagram would have taken another 5000 troops to hold. Every argument against Biden falls back to we should have send more troops and never left.
Bull***** In 2020 there were 6 KIA in Afghanistan. Operations out of Bagram Air base ln support of the Afghanistan army, even corrupt as it was, was holding off the Taliban.

We will never know what President Trump would have done regarding the treaty he signed with the Taliban because morons voted for a brain dead corrupt, amoral, unethical and dishonorable criminal named Biden.


They were never holding off the Taliban, we were. When Biden took over there were only 2,500 troops left,


We would probably still be in Afghanistan seeing as the generals had already stopped listening to him.
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In reply to Matt_ag98 • 10:16p, 10/17/23
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And never have been able to threaten the embassy. Like I stated, it's going to take more than an angry mob of misfits to do any damage to that particular embassy.
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:17p, 10/17/23
Manhattan said:
richardag said:
Manhattan said:
Bagram would have taken another 5000 troops to hold. Every argument against Biden falls back to we should have send more troops and never left.
Bull***** In 2020 there were 6 KIA in Afghanistan. Operations out of Bagram Air base ln support of the Afghanistan army, even corrupt as it was, was holding off the Taliban.

We will never know what President Trump would have done regarding the treaty he signed with the Taliban because morons voted for a brain dead corrupt, amoral, unethical and dishonorable criminal named Biden.


We would probably still be in Afghanistan seeing as the generals had already stopped listening to him.
Now you're playing Nostradamus, you stink at arguing and have absolutely no concept of reality.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to richardag • 10:20p, 10/17/23
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richardag said:
Manhattan said:
richardag said:
Manhattan said:
Bagram would have taken another 5000 troops to hold. Every argument against Biden falls back to we should have send more troops and never left.
Bull***** In 2020 there were 6 KIA in Afghanistan. Operations out of Bagram Air base ln support of the Afghanistan army, even corrupt as it was, was holding off the Taliban.

We will never know what President Trump would have done regarding the treaty he signed with the Taliban because morons voted for a brain dead corrupt, amoral, unethical and dishonorable criminal named Biden.


We would probably still be in Afghanistan seeing as the generals had already stopped listening to him.
Now you're playing Nostradamus, you stink at arguing and have absolutely no concept of reality.

He just falls back on the dem program. Lying. It's easy for them.
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In reply to C@LAg • 10:32p, 10/17/23
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C@LAg said:
no, but you are in denial if you think Trump has some magic wand that would have stopped either of these events.

but the again, you trumvestites sure love your echo chamber where you mutually re-affirm each other that you are right.
I have two words for you

Abraham Accords

Just like on the border Dims were gifted peace in the Middle East. All they had to do was stay on the path laid out before them.

But in their arrogance and lust for money and power they wouldn't do it.

Now we the little people who are not in positions of power get to suffer the consequences

Yeah team blue?
The world needs mean tweets

My Pronouns Ultra and MAGA

Trump 2024
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In reply to C@LAg • 10:34p, 10/17/23
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C@LAg said:
Old_Ag_91 said:
Do you think if Trump was in office this wouldve happened? Heck even easier question, would Ukraine have happened?
yes. Putin and Russia is struggling for relevance and resources, as well as dealing with crap inside Russia. They needed the war as a diversion/they thought it was a slam dunk.

yes. Hamas was eventually going to do another in a long line of large attacks against Israel.

your burnt orange god would not have made a difference.

hth.


The fact of the matter is Putin stayed in his lane when Trump was in office. Once a corrupt, weak, America hating person took office he pounced.
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In reply to Fightin_Aggie • 10:34p, 10/17/23
Trump solved all that beef between Israel and UAE and Bahrain.
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10:35p, 10/17/23
Good thing is our embassy's are guarded by US Maines so turn those Devil Dogs loose. Marines do one thing good & that's kill everything in their path
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In reply to jja79 • 10:36p, 10/17/23
Putin knew under Trump democrats and republicans would support Ukraine, and that under Biden many republicans would not.
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In reply to Manhattan • 10:39p, 10/17/23
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He knew to bide his time until a buffoon that is unable to act in America's best interest got into office.
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In reply to C@LAg • 10:42p, 10/17/23
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C@LAg said:
IMnAg79 said:

no


Yes.
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In reply to jja79 • 10:47p, 10/17/23
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jja79 said:
He knew to bide his time until a buffoon that is unable to act in America's best interest got into office.

And he was right. The buffoon is upon us.
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10:51p, 10/17/23
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Holy thread derail… take it to another thread
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10:52p, 10/17/23
Everyone flag the troll for derailing.

This thread should focus on what is currently happening to US embassies, not making excuses for Biden's failure in Afghanistan.
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