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Okay, so doesn't Gaza have neighbors and we can maybe deliver goods accros land borders?

Why is a dock needed?

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Because the Palestinians swarm the trucks and Hamas attacks them to try to steal the food, forcing the drivers to choose between running over people or getting shot or captured by Hamas. The drivers are no longer willing to cross the border and Egypt doesn't want to open the gates for fear of getting overwhelmed by civilians trying to enter Egypt.

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Sooooo, the rest of the Palestinians should take out hamas, problem solved.

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LMCane said:

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Woah. 5 senior Hamas officials, meeting in Rafah to work on keeping Hamas in power, were all killed in air strike. https://t.co/n1lArDqAXi

— David Hazony (@davidhazony) March 20, 2024

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Looks like they should start doing Zoom meetings now...

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More like a Boom meeting...

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Sounds like they had a good launch of their concept.

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txags92 said:

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Okay, so doesn't Gaza have neighbors and we can maybe deliver goods accros land borders?

Why is a dock needed?

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Because the Palestinians swarm the trucks and Hamas attacks them to try to steal the food, forcing the drivers to choose between running over people or getting shot or captured by Hamas. The drivers are no longer willing to cross the border and Egypt doesn't want to open the gates for fear of getting overwhelmed by civilians trying to enter Egypt.

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Sooooo, the rest of the Palestinians should take out hamas, problem solved.

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Agreed. I wasn't trying to rationalize the idea of constructing the pier/port, just explaining why the folks wanting to build it claimed it was necessary. To me it is just a floating target for Hamas rockets.

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Woah. 5 senior Hamas officials, meeting in Rafah to work on keeping Hamas in power, were all killed in air strike. https://t.co/n1lArDqAXi

— David Hazony (@davidhazony) March 20, 2024

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Looks like they should start doing Zoom meetings now...

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More like a Boom meeting...

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Sounds like they had a good launch of their concept.

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With an explosive impact to their program with the widest distribution possible!

https://nypost.com/2024/03/20/opinion/joe-biden-and-world-media-are-relying-on-bogus-hamas-stats-to-smear-israels-conduct-of-gaza-war/

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Hamas' Gaza death toll stats are pure fiction yet world media and leaders like Joe Biden still use them to smear Israel
By Post Editorial Board Published March 20, 2024, 12:18 p.m. ET

Huh: Those "Gaza health ministry" numbers on deaths from the Hamas-Israel war turn out to be transparently made up from whole cloth, as Abraham Wyner conclusively points out in The Post.

Which is a damning lesson on the credulity of the world media and the gazillion politicians across the globe who've been repeating the stats as if they meant something with no less than President Biden then falsely charging that Israel's tactics are "over the top."

Wyner's critique is damning: The daily reported death tolls rise in a straight line, about 270 a day which makes zero sense, since in any war, some days see far greater fighting and bombing than others.

Plus there's no correlation between the reported numbers of children and women slain each day (when most kids are surely near their mothers) or between the numbers of women and men.

Also, the ministry claims that 70% of the dead are women and children, while Hamas admits to losing 6,000 of its (male) combatants which would mean that almost no male civilians have been killed.

The obvious conclusion is that the ministry is just (clumsily) making it all up. It's definitely not presenting real info gathered from across Gaza.....

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Hamas: "we don't know where the 134 hostages are and can't give you a list"

also Hamas: "we have no personnel in most of the Gaza Strip anymore, but can tell you the total civilians killed by Israel are 32,456"

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The lack of logic for so many makes me laugh.

And this is just one example of the gaslighting that is occurring.

Against Israel.

and against American citizens.

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https://nypost.com/2024/03/20/opinion/joe-biden-and-world-media-are-relying-on-bogus-hamas-stats-to-smear-israels-conduct-of-gaza-war/

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Hamas' Gaza death toll stats are pure fiction yet world media and leaders like Joe Biden still use them to smear Israel
By Post Editorial Board Published March 20, 2024, 12:18 p.m. ET

Huh: Those "Gaza health ministry" numbers on deaths from the Hamas-Israel war turn out to be transparently made up from whole cloth, as Abraham Wyner conclusively points out in The Post.

Which is a damning lesson on the credulity of the world media and the gazillion politicians across the globe who've been repeating the stats as if they meant something with no less than President Biden then falsely charging that Israel's tactics are "over the top."

Wyner's critique is damning: The daily reported death tolls rise in a straight line, about 270 a day which makes zero sense, since in any war, some days see far greater fighting and bombing than others.

Plus there's no correlation between the reported numbers of children and women slain each day (when most kids are surely near their mothers) or between the numbers of women and men.

Also, the ministry claims that 70% of the dead are women and children, while Hamas admits to losing 6,000 of its (male) combatants which would mean that almost no male civilians have been killed.

The obvious conclusion is that the ministry is just (clumsily) making it all up. It's definitely not presenting real info gathered from across Gaza.....

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Hamas: "we don't know where the 134 hostages are and can't give you a list"

also Hamas: "we have no personnel in most of the Gaza Strip anymore, but can tell you the total civilians killed by Israel are 32,456"

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Probably a big mistake by Hamas to not give some indication that the hostages are still alive. If they don't know where they are and can't give anybody a list of who is still alive, eventually Israel will conclude that they are unlikely to still be alive. When Israel reaches the point where they believe that none of the hostages are still alive, the gloves will really come off for Hamas and the Palestinians. So far they have seen what it looks like when the Israelis show restraint to try to avoid the potential for killing hostages or other civilians accidentally. What it looks like when Israel doesn't care who lives or dies will be MUCH more ferocious.

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Probably a big mistake by Hamas to not give some indication that the hostages are still alive. If they don't know where they are and can't give anybody a list of who is still alive, eventually Israel will conclude that they are unlikely to still be alive.

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Perhaps they can't give an indication because they're no longer alive. Israel might suspect the same but are exercising patience just on the chance that some still survive.

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Probably a big mistake by Hamas to not give some indication that the hostages are still alive. If they don't know where they are and can't give anybody a list of who is still alive, eventually Israel will conclude that they are unlikely to still be alive.

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Perhaps they can't give an indication because they're no longer alive. Israel might suspect the same but are exercising patience just on the chance that some still survive.

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Even if they are not alive, it is in Hamas' interest to keep Israel thinking they are for as long as possible. Once Israel is convinced they are all dead, it only gets much worse for Hamas and the Palestinians helping them hide.

Oh I agree with you. Just think that hamas is mostly bluffing at this point. But it's a situation that we all face when dealing with a well-known serial liar. You know they're lying. You just don't know to what extent they're lying.

Good grief.

Oh man, she is just so overmatched. Apparently forgets that Israel withdrew from Gaza nearly two decades ago, and also seems to forget the Gaza-Egypt border exists. Or she ignores it because Egypt isn’t run by the “illegal occupier” you-know-who’s. Bravo @DouglasKMurray! https://t.co/UPaYbOKqSA

— Guy Benson (@guypbenson) March 21, 2024

The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

Palestinians overwhelmingly want hamas to continue as their government.

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The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

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No link to a story?

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Googled it. A story came up with 4 military aged males walking down a road getting droned.

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jagvocate said:

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The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

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No link to a story?

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I imagine TexAgs frowns upon posting graphic videos of people flying apart; the only links I have are to videos

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jagvocate said:

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The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

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No link to a story?

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I imagine TexAgs frowns upon posting graphic videos of people flying apart; the only links I have are to videos

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Is this what you're referring to?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-drone-footage-kill-four

The same way they know the Palestinian death count being accurate, despite the glaring statistical issues with the numbers.

The same way they know a genocide is occurring

The same way they know an occupation is occurring

The same way they know a two state solution would lead to peace

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The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

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Would you approve if anyone or more of these men took part in Oct 7th atrocities?

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The recent IDF drone footage of Israel vaporizing civilians in broad daylight is a bad look and further evidence of war crimes.

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No link to a story?

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It's all over Twitter. I've seen the video and they just use drones to blow them up for seemingly nothing. They were just walking or crawling, obviously unarmed.

Drone warfare is a mass game changer. I don't think politicians or military leaders have realized just how much everything has changed. Once you cross this rubicon you can't go back. There are people who have built killbots in a few hours with facial recognition technology. Strap a bomb to it and you can begin assassinations easily.

Why are some people so adamant about protecting their views on these things? That woman had lots of factual information presented to her and she just openly and blatantly did not want to understand the man's point. An open mind welcomes the challenge.

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Why are some people so adamant about protecting their views on these things? That woman had lots of factual information presented to her and she just openly and blatantly did not want to understand the man's point. An open mind welcomes the challenge.

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Because they believe their thoughts/ideas = themselves.

Not open minded and certainly can't handle being wrong or misinformed.

speaking of war crimes"

"Hamas, an Islamist militant group and the de facto governing authority of the Gaza Strip, has been using human shields in conflicts with Israel since 2007.

According to the Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the war crime of using human shields encompasses "utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas, or military forces immune from military operations."

Hamas has launched rockets, positioned military-related infrastructure-hubs and routes, and engaged the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) from, or in proximity to, residential and commercial areas."

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

oh look! the International Committee of the Red Cross has something to say about Hamas using civilian clothes to hide their attacks!

In international armed conflicts, combatants have an obligation to distinguish themselves from the civilian population and this can be achieved by wearing a uniform.

Therefore, members of the armed forces engaged in or preparing an attack without wearing a uniform and/or failing to carry their arms openly are not entitled to the status of prisoner of war.

The feigning of protected status by wearing the uniforms of the United Nations or of a neutral or other non-belligerent State is prohibited by IHL.

Endless War Crimes by the Palestinians