Israel/Hamas going at it

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I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7
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knj2417 said:

I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7


Yep I thought the same thing also
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knj2417 said:

I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7
If so, I am curious on what basis such an assertion would be made? They didn't take 'military age males' as hostages and said demographic or population group etc. were among the highest 'shot on sight' category. That a disproportionate ratio of Hamas hostages are women/young adults/children is unsurprising, to me.

Soldiers are young. See: "We were soldiers once, and young."

Not trying to argue a point, just curious if there is a logical reasoning basis for 'well the IDF is just claiming an irrational proportion of young female soldiers manning the…posts near the music festival' or something.
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Agthatbuilds said:




Israel should have chipped them or something. Let them celebrate today then send them to hell
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Target rich environments. Shame.
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knj2417 said:

I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7


There is probably a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base who were taken hostage compared to the amount of young man manning the base who were taken hostage.

The terrorists would probably capture, torture, and murder the men at the base rather than try to kidnap and transport them.
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ME92 said:

knj2417 said:

I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7


There is probably a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base who were taken hostage compared to the amount of young man manning the base who were taken hostage.

The terrorists would probably capture, torture, and murder the men at the base rather than try to kidnap and transport them.


Bingo - couldn't agree more. And hamas has this affinity to "making Israeli women dirty", that probably plays in to it as well
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Seems to be that the released Hamas prisoners are kinda like deer on small high fenced place. Not very sporting.
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Shoot all but a couple hundred. Then make the deal.
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maddiedou said:

knj2417 said:

I think what Aust Ag was saying are there seems to be a disproportionate amount of young women manning the base on Oct 7


Yep I thought the same thing also


The Israeli units that are all women or coed are used primarily for border control posts. So it is not a surprise that many of them were heavily involved in the initial fighting or were kidnapped when the posts were overrun.
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Israel also has a 'shockingly' liberal policy about genders and mandatory service.

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Ready to learn what Israel could teach the U.S. about conscription, women in the military and more? Here are four facts you should know about Israel's mandatory military service for men and women.

MILITARY SERVICE ACTS AS A "RIGHT OF PASSAGE" FOR ISRAELI CITIZENS.

In America, there are several societal rituals ranging from 18th and 21st birthdays to going to college that indicate a person is growing up. Serving in the army is the Israeli equivalent to going to university, with both experiences giving men and women greater exposure to different kinds of people, locations and skills.

Men typically serve for three years while women serve for a little under two years. Israel's recruitment rate is shockingly high, with 80 percent of those summoned to serve enlisting. Although service is mandatory, there are exemptions for married women and women with children, people who aren't physically or psychologically able, religious men studying at a Jewish law institution or religious women who'd prefer to do "national service," or community volunteering.

THE ARMY IS CONSIDERED ISRAEL'S MELTING POT.

Because everyone over 18 is required to serve, the IDF blends together people of various backgrounds. For example, native Israeli serve alongside immigrants while modern Orthodox Jews serve alongside secular Israelis.
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At least some good has come from the cease fire, thank God:

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Father and husband of three hostages, who has united with them for the first time in 49 days, asked to thank the IDF, but also urged for the release of all hostages.

Yoni Asher, whose wife Doron and daughters Aviv Asher (2) and Raz Asher (5), were released from Hamas captivity, shared a statement after they arrived back safely. "My family, Doron, Raz and Aviv have returned home from captivity. I am determined to help my family recover from the trauma and the terrible ordeal we've endured, all for the sake of our children and Doron.

"Though challenging days still lie ahead, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to our sons, who endured great suffering, as well as to the IDF, the Israeli government, and the Security Cabinet for their dedicated efforts. I extend my thanks to the wonderful people of Israel for their unwavering support," Asher said in his statement.
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nortex97 said:

Israel also has a 'shockingly' liberal policy about genders and mandatory service.

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Ready to learn what Israel could teach the U.S. about conscription, women in the military and more? Here are four facts you should know about Israel's mandatory military service for men and women.

MILITARY SERVICE ACTS AS A "RIGHT OF PASSAGE" FOR ISRAELI CITIZENS.

In America, there are several societal rituals ranging from 18th and 21st birthdays to going to college that indicate a person is growing up. Serving in the army is the Israeli equivalent to going to university, with both experiences giving men and women greater exposure to different kinds of people, locations and skills.

Men typically serve for three years while women serve for a little under two years. Israel's recruitment rate is shockingly high, with 80 percent of those summoned to serve enlisting. Although service is mandatory, there are exemptions for married women and women with children, people who aren't physically or psychologically able, religious men studying at a Jewish law institution or religious women who'd prefer to do "national service," or community volunteering.

THE ARMY IS CONSIDERED ISRAEL'S MELTING POT.

Because everyone over 18 is required to serve, the IDF blends together people of various backgrounds. For example, native Israeli serve alongside immigrants while modern Orthodox Jews serve alongside secular Israelis.
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At least some good has come from the cease fire, thank God:

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Father and husband of three hostages, who has united with them for the first time in 49 days, asked to thank the IDF, but also urged for the release of all hostages.

Yoni Asher, whose wife Doron and daughters Aviv Asher (2) and Raz Asher (5), were released from Hamas captivity, shared a statement after they arrived back safely. "My family, Doron, Raz and Aviv have returned home from captivity. I am determined to help my family recover from the trauma and the terrible ordeal we've endured, all for the sake of our children and Doron.

"Though challenging days still lie ahead, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to our sons, who endured great suffering, as well as to the IDF, the Israeli government, and the Security Cabinet for their dedicated efforts. I extend my thanks to the wonderful people of Israel for their unwavering support," Asher said in his statement.

How can you consider yourself a man and hold little kids hostage, let alone kill them deliberately. It just boggles my mind what is going through these people's minds when they're doing this.
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They don't consider Jews/infidels to be human. Islam allows for any abuse of the infidels.
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agent-maroon said:

They don't consider Jews/infidels to be human. Islam allows for any abuse of the infidels.
I couldn't imagine even treating animals in the way they've treated the people there...DELIBERATELY trying to inflict pain.

It's sick.
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You have a western mind. The whole world does not think the same way. Similarly to the commies back in the day and many over there still today.
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Ag with kids said:

nortex97 said:

Israel also has a 'shockingly' liberal policy about genders and mandatory service.

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Ready to learn what Israel could teach the U.S. about conscription, women in the military and more? Here are four facts you should know about Israel's mandatory military service for men and women.

MILITARY SERVICE ACTS AS A "RIGHT OF PASSAGE" FOR ISRAELI CITIZENS.

In America, there are several societal rituals ranging from 18th and 21st birthdays to going to college that indicate a person is growing up. Serving in the army is the Israeli equivalent to going to university, with both experiences giving men and women greater exposure to different kinds of people, locations and skills.

Men typically serve for three years while women serve for a little under two years. Israel's recruitment rate is shockingly high, with 80 percent of those summoned to serve enlisting. Although service is mandatory, there are exemptions for married women and women with children, people who aren't physically or psychologically able, religious men studying at a Jewish law institution or religious women who'd prefer to do "national service," or community volunteering.

THE ARMY IS CONSIDERED ISRAEL'S MELTING POT.

Because everyone over 18 is required to serve, the IDF blends together people of various backgrounds. For example, native Israeli serve alongside immigrants while modern Orthodox Jews serve alongside secular Israelis.
….
At least some good has come from the cease fire, thank God:

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Father and husband of three hostages, who has united with them for the first time in 49 days, asked to thank the IDF, but also urged for the release of all hostages.

Yoni Asher, whose wife Doron and daughters Aviv Asher (2) and Raz Asher (5), were released from Hamas captivity, shared a statement after they arrived back safely. "My family, Doron, Raz and Aviv have returned home from captivity. I am determined to help my family recover from the trauma and the terrible ordeal we've endured, all for the sake of our children and Doron.

"Though challenging days still lie ahead, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude and appreciation to our sons, who endured great suffering, as well as to the IDF, the Israeli government, and the Security Cabinet for their dedicated efforts. I extend my thanks to the wonderful people of Israel for their unwavering support," Asher said in his statement.

How can you consider yourself a man and hold little kids hostage, let alone kill them deliberately. It just boggles my mind what is going through these people's minds when they're doing this.
Because they're not men, they're less than animals because they've been fanatically indoctrinated since birth.
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Aust Ag said:

I feel like only 19 and 20 year old girls were on watch at the Army base on Oct 7th.

who do you think serves in an ARMY on a border base on a national holiday?!!?
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strangely, I don't see the Hamas supporters in the USA celebrating this in their public direct actions..

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LMCane said:


That is not a schedule for terrorists guarding captives. The IDF guy who said that was mistaken. Moronic terrorists sympathizers are using this mistake to declare everything the IDF says as a "lie". Don't give them any opportunities to spread their BS.

Keep pointing out why 100% of Hamas needs to die, though.
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LMCane said:


If they were really spying for Isreal against the Hamas POS, then they are heros who deserve a monument.
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aTmAg said:

LMCane said:


That is not a schedule for terrorists guarding captives. The IDF guy who said that was mistaken. Moronic terrorists sympathizers are using this mistake to declare everything the IDF says as a "lie". Don't give them any opportunities to spread their BS.

Keep pointing out why 100% of Hamas needs to die, though.
What is it for?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790379/Hamas-hands-Israeli-hostages-day-2.html
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Hamas backs down in hostage stand-off: Terror group is set to finally free 20 prisoners after delaying their release for several hours and accusing Israel of violating truce agreement


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Hamas has finally agreed to release the second group of Israeli hostages after initially refusing to free them.

The terror group had claimed Israel had not complied with the deal's terms and not delivered enough aid to Gaza.

Qatari and Egyptian mediators say Hamas has agreed to release 13 Israelis and seven 'foreigners' on Saturday in exchange for 39 Palestinians imprisoned by Israel
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Not a lot of updates here yesterday, I guess some other stuff was going on.









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In walkback, Red Cross says 'no indication' 3rd installment of hostage deal not to proceed as planned
IDF needs to get back to the offensive in Gaza.
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GE said:

aTmAg said:

LMCane said:


That is not a schedule for terrorists guarding captives. The IDF guy who said that was mistaken. Moronic terrorists sympathizers are using this mistake to declare everything the IDF says as a "lie". Don't give them any opportunities to spread their BS.

Keep pointing out why 100% of Hamas needs to die, though.
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I've heard that it was just a calendar marking Oct 7th
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

You have a western mind. The whole world does not think the same way. Similarly to the commies back in the day and many over there still today.

THIS CAN'T BE STATED OFTEN ENOUGH!!!
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Israel cannot stop. Hamas must be eradicate and removed from existence. Otherwise the will be right back to Oct 7th in the future.

Now is the time to destroy Hamas. Ignore the haters, bibi.
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Bidens polling is collapsing with all of the pro-terrorist Democrats so he's pushing for this to stop. The problem for Israel is that they are dependent upon us for armament.
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