Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 4:38p, 10/12/23
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ABATTBQ11 said:
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Stupid question I am sure but are the fires being put out just from lack of material? It looks like most of the buildings are just slabs of concrete so that makes sense.

With the lack of water, not including the port, I just thought that there would be more fires than there are.
You're right about the concrete, thus, nothing to burn.

It's only a wild ass assumption, but the modern explosives used release energy, but don't necessarily create fire. The concussion wave does all the damage. Also, even if you hit one of there bunkers full of fuel and ammo, if a fire starts and the building falls down in on it, it may very well get starved of oxygen.


Maybe. Maybe not. Explosives do not rely on ambient air because that would be wildly inefficient. Same with solid rocket motors. Both would have their own oxidizers and could explode if given enough energy to start a chain reaction.
Fully agree.

I interpreted the question to be more about fires after the explosions. So, my answer is based on that.
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In reply to Joes • 4:39p, 10/12/23
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Anyone see that building on the feed with a red light get plastered? Looks pretty similar to the one here


Are the Hamas leaders just sitting in their home apartments waiting for their turn to be blown up? I'd think the Israeli's would be more interested in collecting whatever info they can in those places instead of blowing up what's probably an empty room anyway. But again, I'm sure they know what they're doing. I just can't picture any Hamas leaders being at their home address right now.
They are probably hiding in other apartments, and Israeli intelligence is finding them and eliminating them
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In reply to bonfarr • 4:41p, 10/12/23
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bonfarr said:



Why is that terrorist naked? Did they catch him midrape or did he strip down after they fragged him?
To make sure he doesn't have a suicide vest or explosives on him.
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4:43p, 10/12/23
This is heartbreaking and INFURIATING...

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In reply to ChillyAg19 • 4:44p, 10/12/23
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The telegram source with more info. Viewer discretion...

https://t.me/southfirstresponders


This thread has shown a lot but that telegram thread is on another level. Nobody was spared not even the family dogs.


I loaded the app but now what do I do. Sorry I am internet dumb so sorry if it is to much trouble and I understand
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4:44p, 10/12/23
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So, Ashkelon has a blackout?
If someone already posted about this, please ignore. This thread is incredibly hard to keep up with.
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4:45p, 10/12/23
This is heartbreaking and INFURIATING. This Mom telling her (scared) baby, "It's fireworks".....


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In reply to maddiedou • 4:45p, 10/12/23
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maddiedou said:
ChillyAg19 said:
fooz said:
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The telegram source with more info. Viewer discretion...

https://t.me/southfirstresponders


This thread has shown a lot but that telegram thread is on another level. Nobody was spared not even the family dogs.


I loaded the app but now what do I do. Sorry I am internet dumb so sorry if it is to much trouble and I understand
If the app is downloaded and you have an account all you have to do is click on the link. Your phone should take you to the app.
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4:48p, 10/12/23
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In reply to LMCane • 4:49p, 10/12/23
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You can hear one of the Commandos yell "Tayn Lo Reemon" which means "give him the grenade!"
I hope Israel takes the entire Fing gaza strip, run the Palestinians to Egypt or something.

Problem the Palestinians have is no one that will take them and no one wants them, that includes all Muslim countries, the irony right? They praise and praise them to kill Israelis but won't have anything to do with them
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In reply to Not a Bot • 4:52p, 10/12/23
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If people want to come help you, you should let them.

But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol

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In reply to CDUB98 • 4:54p, 10/12/23
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FAFO

This is the guy who is known for posting whatever he comes across, right? Without checking for accuracy?
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4:55p, 10/12/23
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Listening to a podcast right now and learned something that I had not made the connection with. Hamas is evidently the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. The same group that took power in Egypt during barry O's term.
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 4:55p, 10/12/23
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The best case for the residents of Gaza is that the leadership (meaning membership) of Hamas and 90 percent plus of their 40+ adult males are killed, along with most of the females, and the remaining population is sane enough to push to divorce themselves from their death marriage to Iranian clerics/politico's.

Also, Israel should just take 50% of what was the West Bank (including the old airport in the south) and settle it, declare that part theirs now. Force the moslem population into whatever is left after they halt the ground offensive.

It would take such a change, and then a change as well in the UN humanitarian (UNRWA) staffing leadership (schools etc) to really impact their future positively. Even then, the inbreeding is a problem but I try to remain an optimist.

Edit: Gaza.
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 4:56p, 10/12/23
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That's the whole thing, Egypt and Jordon don't want them either, hell I don't think the Palestinian leaders in the West Bank want them either, they don't need or want radicals In their countries. Hamas is a black eye for most of these countries, the only places that would take just the Hamas radicals are Lebanon Syria or Iran
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In reply to JobSecurity • 4:56p, 10/12/23
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JobSecurity said:
Full remarks are here: https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/490050/Nobody-seeks-Iran-s-permission-to-open-a-new-war-front-against

"Officials of certain countries in contact with us ask about a possible opening of new (war) fronts in the region. We tell them that our clear-cut response about future possibilities is that everything is dependent on the moves of the Zionist regime in Gaza," Iran's foreign minister remarked."

Iran's chief diplomat who on Thursday started a tour of Iraq, Syria and Lebanon for consultations on the Gaza situation said, "In a situation where the Zionist regime has imposed a complete siege on Gaza, cutting off its water, electricity, and fuel supply, and preventing the delivery of food and medicine, the United States and some parties are sending weapons to Israel and allowing this criminal regime to continue its ruthless massacre of Palestinian civilians in Gaza. In such circumstances, anything is possible, and we may witness new events in the region."

He added, "Now the crimes of Israel are continuing and nobody in the region seeks our permission to open new fronts."
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 4:57p, 10/12/23
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I take it as they don't want to have other nations on soil to escalate things further with other enemy nations
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4:58p, 10/12/23
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In reply to maddiedou • 4:59p, 10/12/23
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Tread carefully. It's not for the faint of heart.
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In reply to nortex97 • 5:00p, 10/12/23
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Gaza, not West Bank
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 5:01p, 10/12/23
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But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
Like that scene in The Untouchables with Canadian Mounties getting their panties in a wad when Sean Connery, does it the Chicago way and shoots an already dead guy through the head to get the accountant to talk.

Look, I'm not going to say the IDF does not play well with other militaries, my gut tells me they do on joint training missions and other times they have been in a support role for the US.

But this is their home, their people, their nation that has been defiled by atrocities beyond credulity. They are in charge.
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In reply to Legal Custodian • 5:03p, 10/12/23
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I take it as they don't want to have other nations on soil to escalate things further with other enemy nations
That sounds likely too.

I guess I am just hoping Israel destroys them fully

No more nice guy fighting, tear their asses up WW2 style

Of course I do not want innocents hurt but they need to end this crap for good or it's just a matter of time before their next surprise attack
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5:05p, 10/12/23
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Be careful what you ask for kids because it's on its way.

What's good for the goose…

Teaching hatred to your kids.

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In reply to zgolfz85 • 5:06p, 10/12/23
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Rapier108 said:
Senior Hamas official admits Israel attacks had been planned for years under guise of governing Gaza | Fox News



Wild


What a waste, if true. All that training, and you barely do anything of military value? All you do is commit atrocities that will get your whole movement wiped off the face of the earth? What a bunch of idiots.
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In reply to nortex97 • 5:06p, 10/12/23
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West Bank is run under the Oslo Agreement and things are much better there than Gaza. Israel controls about a third, the Fatah (PLO) control about a third, and a third is jointly administered.

Fatah has taken a long-standing approach toward secularism and political resistance to Israel rather than violence. They don't want an Islamist government. Hamas and other groups in Palestine accuse Fatah of being corrupt and paid off by the Israelis and Americans. There's a lot of infighting. Fatah is the UN-recognized government of Palestine with Abbas as their President. Hamas has had de facto control of the Gaza strip.
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 5:06p, 10/12/23
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If people want to come help you, you should let them.

But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol

Public statements may also differ from reality as well. It isn't necessarily in anyone's best interest to advertise the type of help that could be sent over, and a country is offering it in the first place.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 5:06p, 10/12/23
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But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
Like that scene in The Untouchables with Canadian Mounties getting their panties in a wad when Sean Connery, does it the Chicago way and shoots an already dead guy through the head to get the accountant to talk.

Look, I'm not going to say the IDF does not play well with other militaries, my gut tells me they do on joint training missions and other times they have been in a support role for the US.

But this is their home, their people, their nation that has been defiled by atrocities beyond credulity. They are in charge.
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In reply to annie88 • 5:09p, 10/12/23
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And this here is why you kill them all.
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In reply to fullback44 • 5:12p, 10/12/23
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That's the whole thing, Egypt and Jordon don't want them either, hell I don't think the Palestinian leaders in the West Bank want them either, they don't need or want radicals In their countries. Hamas is a black eye for most of these countries, the only places that would take just the Hamas radicals are Lebanon Syria or Iran
Hamas is primarily Sunni. They wouldn't last a week in Iran.
Hamas is just a useful lapdog for Iran.
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5:15p, 10/12/23
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I give zero Fs how they interrogate them... war is hell.
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In reply to annie88 • 5:15p, 10/12/23
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annie88 said:
Be careful what you ask for kids because it's on its way.

What's good for the goose…

Teaching hatred to your kids.

every time I see one of these videos...it's hard not to lean into the wipe them all off the planet thinking.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 5:17p, 10/12/23
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But I get a feeling they want to do it their way and weak western countries might not like their way lol
Like that scene in The Untouchables with Canadian Mounties getting their panties in a wad when Sean Connery, does it the Chicago way and shoots an already dead guy through the head to get the accountant to talk.

Look, I'm not going to say the IDF does not play well with other militaries, my gut tells me they do on joint training missions and other times they have been in a support role for the US.

But this is their home, their people, their nation that has been defiled by atrocities beyond credulity. They are in charge.
Very true, but American dead and hostages while smaller in number still mean we should have some direct participation as well unless there's a darn good reason.

Although, are the American citizen victims essentially all full time Israelis with dual citizenship that live there full time? That doesn't make it any less horrible but if they're full time Israeli residents and citizens and just also happen to have American dual citizenship that would make it easier to swallow letting Israel do it on their terms without feeling as much obligation on our part.
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In reply to annie88 • 5:18p, 10/12/23
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There can be no peace with this
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In reply to zgolfz85 • 5:19p, 10/12/23
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Definitely easier to understand God's command to Saul about the Amalekites after watching.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 5:19p, 10/12/23
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ABATTBQ11 said:
They're can be no peace with this


Agreed. When you teach hatred from birth, it's really hard to overcome. This is no different than KKK clan people, BLM, etc. but sadly, this Islamic militant terrorism is even beyond that.
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